Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

[The_Watchers_2017]

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So, but once we're given Faith it's up to us to actually use it.

 

[Cameron143]

Go worship Paul since his words mean more than God in the flesh.

Wise men when instructed become wiser still.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Wise men when instructed become wiser still.

That is why I know the words from Jesus are more important than from Paul.

 

[Cameron143]

That is why I know the words from Jesus are more important than from Paul.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God...Jesus is the word of God...it's all equally important.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

All scripture is given by inspiration of God...Jesus is the word of God...it's all equally important.

The words spoken by Jesus came directly from the Father [John 14].

Big difference between the SOURCE speaking and followers being inspired.

 

[crossnote]

Go worship Paul since his words mean more than God in the flesh.

You don't believe every word of Scripture is inspired by God the Holy Spirit, do you?

 

[Cameron143]

The words spoken by Jesus came directly from the Father [John 14].

Big difference between the SOURCE speaking and followers being inspired.

Your argument isn't with me, it's with scripture. Grace and peace.

 

[Papermonkey]

Tha sounds like Jack Horner theology

Little Jack Horner
Sat in the corner,
Eating a Christmas pie;
He put in his thumb,
And pulled out a plum,
And said, "What a good boy am I!"

I don't think it's worthy of mockery.
Their theology is not able to be sustained by the actual Gospel.
Meanwhile, they are aggressive,condescending,
and obviously very angry.
What's that tell us?😔

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

You don't believe every word of Scripture is inspired by God the Holy Spirit, do you?

I don't believe the Father requires the Holy Spirit to speak on His own behalf.

 

[crossnote]

So, but once we're given Faith it's up to us to actually use it.

Sounds like you are a Deist when it comes to sanctification, rather...

Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

You seem to be over emphasizing v.12, I'd balance that with v.13

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Your argument isn't with me, it's with scripture. Grace and peace.

I am the one who used Scripture and you refused it.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Sounds like you are a Deist when it comes to sanctification, rather...

Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

You seem to be over emphasizing v.12, I'd balance that with v.13

I am merely saying when Jesus, or the Father inside Him, said we're given a measure of Faith and the amount of Faith the size of a mustard seed could remove mountains, that means it requires us to believe and use that Faith.

When is the last time your Faith saw a miracle?

 

[crossnote]

I don't believe the Father requires the Holy Spirit to speak on His own behalf.

i'm trinitarian, they are all in one accord.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Inspiration speaks of God breathed which speaks of His Holy Spirit.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

i'm trinitarian, they are all in one accord.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Inspiration speaks of God breathed which speaks of His Holy Spirit.

Doesn't matter, the Father is always inspired because He is God.

 

[crossnote]

I am merely saying when Jesus, or the Father inside Him, said we're given a measure of Faith and the amount of Faith the size of a mustard seed could remove mountains, that means it requires us to believe and use that Faith.

When is the last time your Faith saw a miracle?

My faith doesn't see miracles.
Miracles are supernatural events made for the natural eye to confirm God's Word.
Faith comes from hearing God's Word while being illuminated by the Author of God's Word, the Holy Spirit.

 

[crossnote]

Doesn't matter, the Father is always inspired because He is God.

So is the Son and the Holy Spirit.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

My faith doesn't see miracles.
Miracles are supernatural events made for the natural eye to confirm God's Word.
Faith comes from hearing God's Word while being illuminated by the Author of God's Word, the Holy Spirit.

In other words you are nothing but hot air and have no current Testimony witnessing God working because your walk in God is legit.

 

[Cameron143]

I am the one who used Scripture and you refused it.

Everything I shared was scriptural.
I hope you won't take this personally, but the Bible isn't like any other book. You don't so much read it as it reads you.
Understanding the Bible is a little like collecting shells at the beach.
Anyone can go to the beach and collect shells. They are strewn up and down the beach. Some take buckets and pails and dig and find more shells. And there are still some who, having plucked and dug, sit on the shore as the waves wash in and out only to find more shells that are uncovered by the surf.
Those who read the Bible are like the first group. They will acquire some understanding. Those who dig into the Word and compare scripture with scripture and go line upon line and precept upon precept are like those who dig in the sand and find more and beautiful shells. And those who sit still and enjoy the surf and allow the surf to remove the sand and reveal the most beautiful of shells are as those who get still and meditate on the Word allowing God to wash over their minds and reveal hidden treasures of truth.
You seem to have done the first two. I hope you will consider the third.
I truly do wish you all the best.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

So is the Son and the Holy Spirit.

I am talking about the Father talking and you are talking about someone being inspired.

Big difference.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Everything I shared was scriptural.
I hope you won't take this personally, but the Bible isn't like any other book. You don't so much read it as it reads you.
Understanding the Bible is a little like collecting shells at the beach.
Anyone can go to the beach and collect shells. They are strewn up and down the beach. Some take buckets and pails and dig and find more shells. And there are still some who, having plucked and dug, sit on the shore as the waves wash in and out only to find more shells that are uncovered by the surf.
Those who read the Bible are like the first group. They will acquire some understanding. Those who dig into the Word and compare scripture with scripture and go line upon line and precept upon precept are like those who dig in the sand and find more and beautiful shells. And those who sit still and enjoy the surf and allow the surf to remove the sand and reveal the most beautiful of shells are as those who get still and meditate on the Word allowing God to wash over their minds and reveal hidden treasures of truth.
You seem to have done the first two. I hope you will consider the third.
I truly do wish you all the best.

My life is based off the Word of God. I can't be offended because the Word of God is the road map that I follow.