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GaryA

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Thanks for the info.
That might be one of the crisis of the NWO Great Reset then. They are planning for a 2030 goal. Do you have any opinion on it's place in Bible prophecy?
I will suggest that - if any place at all - it would most likely be here:

Revelation 9:

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
 

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no that was project DART, that has been completed , although the asteroid they rammed does also start with an A ,which btw left behind a million pounds of debris in a nice long trail. Apophus is much larger. NASA 1st told the public about it in the 90s, it has been on a path toward us since then its due date is around 2029 , although another source says its speeding upp and may be here by 2026
I was just checking and opened to Revelation 18. Only God knows, but IF it hits the Earth, it sounds like it could be a fulfillment of verse 21. I will take time tonight to look at that closer.
 

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I will suggest that - if any place at all - it would most likely be here:

Revelation 9:

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Thanks Gary. I am looking forward to studying that this evening. It sure looks like an asteroid could be a star. There have been many predictions by both preachers and NASA in the past that they have been off on, so I don't want to overreact. However, it's something certainly worth looking at closely, keeping in mind as things ramp up worldwide. It looks like the Devil sees that his days are numbered and is pushing a global agenda.
 

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Thanks Gary. I am looking forward to studying that this evening. It sure looks like an asteroid could be a star. There have been many predictions by both preachers and NASA in the past that they have been off on, so I don't want to overreact. However, it's something certainly worth looking at closely, keeping in mind as things ramp up worldwide. It looks like the Devil sees that his days are numbered and is pushing a global agenda.
In case you may find it useful:

http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Order_Of_Events.html

Pay particularly close attention to the Trumpet columns of the table. The verses I posted are in the 'Trumpet 5' column.
 

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I was just checking and opened to Revelation 18. Only God knows, but IF it hits the Earth, it sounds like it could be a fulfillment of verse 21. I will take time tonight to look at that closer.
It certainly seems worth "giving a look at"; however, at first glance, I think I would have to ask myself how something falling from the sky fits into the phrase "took up a stone"...

Revelation 18:

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Let us know what you come up with... :geek:
 

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Thanks for the info.
That might be one of the crisis of the NWO Great Reset then. They are planning for a 2030 goal. Do you have any opinion on it's place in Bible prophecy?
Many have theorized that it is wormwood
 

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Thanks for the info.
That might be one of the crisis of the NWO Great Reset then. They are planning for a 2030 goal. Do you have any opinion on it's place in Bible prophecy?
not sure ,so much going on at once , perhaps this is the "birth pains " we read about, given theres new life after its over ?
all I know is its never been like this ,and Im keeping eyes looking up , and my heart stayed on Him.
 

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I think a very strong case can be made from the Bible that the 70th week would begin on the Feast of Trumpets and not only so but at the start of a Shemitah year.

Because we can tie the Balfour Declaration, Return of Jerusalem to the Jews and Trump's declaration concerning the embassy being moved to Jerusalem to the Shemitah years there cannot be any real dispute as to when that would be.

Therefore if the Tribulation doesn't begin this fall you would have to put it off for another seven years. If you do that then I can look at five major prophecies in the Bible that collapse. Prophecies that all point to this fall.

I would also point out that China is looking at a $3 trillion collapse of its economy at the same time that it is shutting down five cities due to Covid, they have a food shortage as well. The Chinese economy has been a very big ponzi scheme, seven years from now they will be nothing but a giant heap of rubble, so if they want to be the preeminent world power it is now or never.

I would also point out that Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkey are all on the brink of financial collapse. Three countries that are supposed to ally with Russia to attack Israel.

Russia has just given the US it's "final warning" due to the fact that US made weapons were used to shell the nuclear power plant that may have a melt down. Russia claims they have evidence of US bioweapons labs in Ukraine designing bioweapons in conflict with world treaties, they may have also seized evidence of child trafficking of the Kazarian mafia working with world leaders including those in the US. We are told repeatedly in the Bible that the fall of the Great Babylon (the US) will be in an hour.

My point is these wars can happen very, very quickly now with missiles and nuclear arms.

The book of Joel tells you that a pandemic and worldwide shutdown of the economy is a sign that the day of the Lord is at hand.

Biden has already signed an executive order for our currency to become digital in December and the ATM's are already being fitted so that people can turn in their cash.

I can see many, many prophecies pointing to this year, I can't see anything saying it won't be for another seven years.
I believe that something is coming this fall as well. But things could always turn as the LORD shows His longsuffering. Just a thought, not to contradict.
 

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Relying on secular information is not wise. Who told you that the Ukrainians are shelling their own nuclear plant? Putin said so? Putin lied his head off even before the invasion. Putin has been posturing and making threats for months. Maybe Putin wants to be known as the man that sent the world back to the stone age. I doubt it.
Putin told the truth when addressed the American people when he informed that their country is being controlled by an elite group of luciferians... Just saying.
 

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not sure ,so much going on at once , perhaps this is the "birth pains " we read about, given theres new life after its over ?
all I know is its never been like this ,and Im keeping eyes looking up , and my heart stayed on Him.
Those that understand among the people shall instruct many. Dan.11:33
 

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I believe that something is coming this fall as well. But things could always turn as the LORD shows His longsuffering. Just a thought, not to contradict.
If Russia is going to attack they won't wait till fall. Also China is already collapsing, they cannot wait 9 or 10 months. The same is true of Pakistan and Iran. Russia attacked Ukraine in February so they would have time to seize control before the next winter started. If Russia and China are going to nuke the US they would want to then put boots on the ground within a couple of weeks. The end of February or early March would be the perfect time to roll into the southern 3/4 of the US.
 

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Putin told the truth when addressed the American people when he informed that their country is being controlled by an elite group of luciferians... Just saying.
No one would know better than him, or perhaps Obama. Obviously Biden is being controlled by someone.
 

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If Russia is going to attack they won't wait till fall. Also China is already collapsing, they cannot wait 9 or 10 months. The same is true of Pakistan and Iran. Russia attacked Ukraine in February so they would have time to seize control before the next winter started. If Russia and China are going to nuke the US they would want to then put boots on the ground within a couple of weeks. The end of February or early March would be the perfect time to roll into the southern 3/4 of the US.
What are you thinking is a strategic step for those that are paying attention, other than seeking the LORD with all our hearts and being led by the Spirit, if you have any thoughts or words of wisdom...
 

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What are you thinking is a strategic step for those that are paying attention, other than seeking the LORD with all our hearts and being led by the Spirit, if you have any thoughts or words of wisdom...
Even if you are seeking the Lord with all your heart you should still be concerned for family members and loved ones who might not be. The wise virgins prepared oil beforehand.

I would encourage you to be active in the church, active in ministry, and spend time daily in the Lord's word and in prayer. You should also prepare for any loved ones including yourself if you are left behind in the tribulation.

1. Buy a years supply of Food. You can go to Joseph's kitchen and get a years supply for about $1,000. That is the cheapest I have found anywhere. You get everything you need to make fresh bread. Two people would be $2,000, etc. You could also buy beans and rice as a second option.

2. You should have significant amount of silver coins. An ounce of silver is worth about $25. The US dollar will collapse, a digital currency will be implemented (mark of the beast) so silver will make it very easy to barter for things.

3. I have also bought enough candles to last a week in the event of a total power outage.

4. I have a very good water filter in the event we have to take water from the local river to drink.
 

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Even if you are seeking the Lord with all your heart you should still be concerned for family members and loved ones who might not be. The wise virgins prepared oil beforehand.

I would encourage you to be active in the church, active in ministry, and spend time daily in the Lord's word and in prayer. You should also prepare for any loved ones including yourself if you are left behind in the tribulation.

1. Buy a years supply of Food. You can go to Joseph's kitchen and get a years supply for about $1,000. That is the cheapest I have found anywhere. You get everything you need to make fresh bread. Two people would be $2,000, etc. You could also buy beans and rice as a second option.

2. You should have significant amount of silver coins. An ounce of silver is worth about $25. The US dollar will collapse, a digital currency will be implemented (mark of the beast) so silver will make it very easy to barter for things.

3. I have also bought enough candles to last a week in the event of a total power outage.

4. I have a very good water filter in the event we have to take water from the local river to drink.
Those are good points. Though I believe we will be here until after the tribulation that is greater than any we have seen to date, as Jesus said in Matt. 24:21-31.
He also warned us that when we see the Abomination that sets up the Desolation (as spoken in the book of Daniel) we are not to turn back to take anything out of our house, so if we have all of our goods stored there it not profit us if we must flee immediately for our lives.
I believe they know now who we are and where we are and that is why Jesus gives us this dire warning in Matt.24:15-21.
This why I believe we must have our oil (the Holy Spirit) to be able to see in the darkness (of uncertainty and peril)
Something to consider...
 

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Those are good points. Though I believe we will be here until after the tribulation that is greater than any we have seen to date, as Jesus said in Matt. 24:21-31.
He also warned us that when we see the Abomination that sets up the Desolation (as spoken in the book of Daniel) we are not to turn back to take anything out of our house, so if we have all of our goods stored there it not profit us if we must flee immediately for our lives.
I believe they know now who we are and where we are and that is why Jesus gives us this dire warning in Matt.24:15-21.
This why I believe we must have our oil (the Holy Spirit) to be able to see in the darkness (of uncertainty and peril)
Something to consider...
Yes, but He also said that His return they would be eating and drinking, marry and giving in marriage until the flood comes. The tribulation will be worse than anything in history, but you wouldn't describe the holocaust as "marrying and giving in marriage". So it will be very fast, like throwing a switch.

Revelation 18 -- The Great Babylon is destroyed in an hour, like a millstone being tossed into the sea. If something catastrophic happened to the US, let's say an EMP wipes out the entire electric grid of the entire continental US, and then 7 major cities are vaporized in a nuclear attack, that could all take place in an hour. If that were to happen the entire stock market and bond market of the US would sink like a millstone to the bottom of the ocean. But it would be worse than just everyone being totally bankrupt and jobless in a single hour. All transportation nationwide would stop. An EMP would fry all the electronics and pumps. Without electricity the cars and trucks will not be able to drive, won't be able to get gas, and as a result all the major cities will be without food in two or three days. Without electricity you won't have any lights, any cameras, any security. Looting will skyrocket, riots will skyrocket, and within two weeks it will be bedlam. But it will be worse than that. The rapture is the "rescue", it is the Lord snatching us out of the way of this catastrophic event. When the church/remnant is raptured the angels and demons are released and sent to the earth. You will have 3 days of darkness like that described in Exodus and which the Lord referred to as "outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth". That is how it starts. The country will be overrun with UN peacekeepers, many more Americans will fight back and be killed but then the Antichrist will ride in, take his mark, and order will be restored, of course if you do that you lose any chance at salvation. Refuse to take the mark and they chop your head off. This will take months and during that time you will see a very big revival as saints repent, turn to the Lord and spend their time in prayer and fasting. But eventually they will come looking for you, and you can run, but you can't hide. They will find every single one, they will hunt you down, and chop off your head including all your loved ones.
 

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Putin told the truth when addressed the American people when he informed that their country is being controlled by an elite group of luciferians... Just saying.
The world system lies in the control of the evil one. That's Satan, of course. And who controls Russia? Satan, of course. The difference is that there are still Christians in the USA and some other nations that pray for those in authority. Satan's power is limited to that extent. At least you get to vote in the US, if you can be bothered.

Satan is the murderer, liar and destroyer. Putin lies, murders and wreaks havoc on Ukraine. Just saying.
 

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Yes, but He also said that His return they would be eating and drinking, marry and giving in marriage until the flood comes. The tribulation will be worse than anything in history, but you wouldn't describe the holocaust as "marrying and giving in marriage". So it will be very fast, like throwing a switch.

Revelation 18 -- The Great Babylon is destroyed in an hour, like a millstone being tossed into the sea. If something catastrophic happened to the US, let's say an EMP wipes out the entire electric grid of the entire continental US, and then 7 major cities are vaporized in a nuclear attack, that could all take place in an hour. If that were to happen the entire stock market and bond market of the US would sink like a millstone to the bottom of the ocean. But it would be worse than just everyone being totally bankrupt and jobless in a single hour. All transportation nationwide would stop. An EMP would fry all the electronics and pumps. Without electricity the cars and trucks will not be able to drive, won't be able to get gas, and as a result all the major cities will be without food in two or three days. Without electricity you won't have any lights, any cameras, any security. Looting will skyrocket, riots will skyrocket, and within two weeks it will be bedlam. But it will be worse than that. The rapture is the "rescue", it is the Lord snatching us out of the way of this catastrophic event. When the church/remnant is raptured the angels and demons are released and sent to the earth. You will have 3 days of darkness like that described in Exodus and which the Lord referred to as "outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth". That is how it starts. The country will be overrun with UN peacekeepers, many more Americans will fight back and be killed but then the Antichrist will ride in, take his mark, and order will be restored, of course if you do that you lose any chance at salvation. Refuse to take the mark and they chop your head off. This will take months and during that time you will see a very big revival as saints repent, turn to the Lord and spend their time in prayer and fasting. But eventually they will come looking for you, and you can run, but you can't hide. They will find every single one, they will hunt you down, and chop off your head including all your loved ones.
I would say that there were those that were buying and selling, eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage while the Jews burned. Those that are not willing to be counted as Christ's by obedience and standing for their faith will never know the tribulation that the True Saints of God experience. As it says in Revelation, For all these things they repented not of their sorceries, adulteries, and murders. I don't mean to argue, I just take God at His Word, and this is Very teachable. Matt. 24 is chronological. 2Thess. 2:3-10 also says we will see a falling away and the "son of perdition" sitting in the temple, spoken of in the book of Daniel lining up with what Jesus said.
I believe we will see the Mark of the Beast, as Rev. 18 comes after Rev. 13. Rev. 14:12 says we will be here for the Mark.
 

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I would say that there were those that were buying and selling, eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage while the Jews burned. Those that are not willing to be counted as Christ's by obedience and standing for their faith will never know the tribulation that the True Saints of God experience. As it says in Revelation, For all these things they repented not of their sorceries, adulteries, and murders. I don't mean to argue, I just take God at His Word, and this is Very teachable. Matt. 24 is chronological. 2Thess. 2:3-10 also says we will see a falling away and the "son of perdition" sitting in the temple, spoken of in the book of Daniel lining up with what Jesus said.
I believe we will see the Mark of the Beast, as Rev. 18 comes after Rev. 13. Rev. 14:12 says we will be here for the Mark.
OK, that is what you would say, but the Lord Jesus said that they were doing this right up until the flood came and took them all away. The people who were prisoners in the Holocaust, going to the camps, the ones who were experiencing the worst tribulation in human history were not eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage.

Likewise, the ones who caught by Satan to do his will, these ones will be slaves like Britney Spears was. Satan wants to convert humans to his offspring. Whether they are Nephelim, or Cyborgs, or if the latest greatest vaccine changes your DNA, the bottom line is they will no longer be human or else they will be slaves or they are headed to the guillotine.

The point is that Noah was not "here for the flood" that "took them all away". It was normal one minute and the next minute a flood that wipes everyone away.