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The truth of the matter is that on Dec 25, Jesus was conceived in Mary by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit as written in Luke 1:26-35. Nine months later, Jesus was born on Sept 29, during the feast of tabernacles, when the herds and shepherds would still be in the fields. This is all based on the date of the course of Abia that Zacharias served between June 13-19. After Zacharias' service he went home and impregnated Elisabeth according to the word of the angel of the Lord as written in Luke 1:11-17. The Lord was conceived on Dec 25, six months after Elisabeth became pregnant by Zacharias. Jesus indeed began living among men as he was conceived in Mary on Dec 25. His conception should be celebrated on Dec 25 as well as his birth on Sept 29. The whole first chapter of Luke explains the conception and birth of Jesus in connection with the conception of John the baptist.
 
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Course of Abia = The Course of Abijah.

Okay, question. How do we know Zacharias served between June 13 -19?
In I Chron 24:1-19, David distributed 24 courses by lot to the sons of Aaron to serve in the temple. Each course was to serve twice a year for 7 days. The eighth course fell by lot to Abia or Abijah as written in I Chron 24:10. The course of Abia is on a set date which is June 13-19. If you happen to have access to a Companion Bible, appendix 179 will go into a more detailed explanation. Hope this helps.
 
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The truth of the matter is that on Dec 25, Jesus was conceived in Mary by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit as written in Luke 1:26-35. Nine months later, Jesus was born on Sept 29, during the feast of tabernacles, when the herds and shepherds would still be in the fields. This is all based on the date of the course of Abia that Zacharias served between June 13-19. After Zacharias' service he went home and impregnated Elisabeth according to the word of the angel of the Lord as written in Luke 1:11-17. The Lord was conceived on Dec 25, six months after Elisabeth became pregnant by Zacharias. Jesus indeed began living among men as he was conceived in Mary on Dec 25. His conception should be celebrated on Dec 25 as well as his birth on Sept 29. The whole first chapter of Luke explains the conception and birth of Jesus in connection with the conception of John the baptist.
In I Chron 24:1-19, David distributed 24 courses by lot to the sons of Aaron to serve in the temple. Each course was to serve twice a year for 7 days. The eighth course fell by lot to Abia or Abijah as written in I Chron 24:10. The course of Abia is on a set date which is June 13-19. If you happen to have access to a Companion Bible, appendix 179 will go into a more detailed explanation.
 

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There is no evidence in scripture to support an exact date of the conception of baby Jesus, December 25 or otherwise. Fairly certain though that the birth of Jesus, based on scripture was sometime in Autumn.
 
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There is no evidence in scripture to support an exact date of the conception of baby Jesus, December 25 or otherwise. Fairly certain though that the birth of Jesus, based on scripture was sometime in Autumn.
You need to read chapter 1 of Luke.
 

ResidentAlien

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Okay, thanks.

The explanation in the Companion Bible can be seen here, page 2123. I see where it says the second ministration of the course of Abijah fell on June 13-19. But how do we know Zacharias served on June 13-19? How do we know it wasn't a different ministration? Luke 1:8-9 just says: "So it was, that while he was serving as priest before God in the order of his division, according to the custom of the priesthood, his lot fell to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord."
 

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You need to read chapter 1 of Luke.
I read that chapter in Luke. From that chapter there is no way to explicitly determine the exact date of the conception of Jesus. There is nothing wrong with you believing that though.
 

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most likely, Jesus was born in september.
 
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There is no evidence in scripture to support an exact date of the conception of baby Jesus, December 25 or otherwise. Fairly certain though that the birth of Jesus, based on scripture was sometime in Autumn.
In I Chron 24:1-19, David distributed 24 courses by lot to the sons of Aaron to serve in the temple. Each course was to serve twice a year for 7 days. The eighth course fell by lot to Abia or Abijah as written in I Chron 24:10. The course of Abia is on a set date which is June 13-19. If you happen to have access to a Companion Bible, appendix 179 will go into a more detailed explanation. Hope this helps.
 

Blade

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lol thank you Father for sending Christ to die for the sin of the world.
 

Blik

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We do not need to know the date of Jesus' birth.

The home country of Jesus, where he was truly born, was in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus came to earth as a visitor to save us from death. The Lord didn't ask us to celebrate that he came here, although as God promised, God used the celebration for good for those who love the Lord.

What God asks us to do is to celebrate Passover. The angel of death passed over, did not harm, the sons who were born to houses with the symbolic blood of Jesus on the doorposts. When we celebrate Passover, we celebrate that we can go to live forever in the kingdom of heaven.
 

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We do not need to know the date of Jesus' birth.

The home country of Jesus, where he was truly born, was in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus came to earth as a visitor to save us from death. The Lord didn't ask us to celebrate that he came here, although as God promised, God used the celebration for good for those who love the Lord.

What God asks us to do is to celebrate Passover. The angel of death passed over, did not harm, the sons who were born to houses with the symbolic blood of Jesus on the doorposts. When we celebrate Passover, we celebrate that we can go to live forever in the kingdom of heaven.
"What God asks us to do is to celebrate Passover"

That's why christians take communion Passover was a shadow of communion
 

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The truth of the matter is that on Dec 25, Jesus was conceived in Mary by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit as written in Luke 1:26-35. Nine months later, Jesus was born on Sept 29, during the feast of tabernacles, when the herds and shepherds would still be in the fields. This is all based on the date of the course of Abia that Zacharias served between June 13-19. After Zacharias' service he went home and impregnated Elisabeth according to the word of the angel of the Lord as written in Luke 1:11-17. The Lord was conceived on Dec 25, six months after Elisabeth became pregnant by Zacharias. Jesus indeed began living among men as he was conceived in Mary on Dec 25. His conception should be celebrated on Dec 25 as well as his birth on Sept 29. The whole first chapter of Luke explains the conception and birth of Jesus in connection with the conception of John the Baptist.
Jesus was not conceived on December 25th.
 

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Pagan Christmas zombie thread, back from the graaaaaaaaave!

zombiesanta.jpg

We haven't had many "Christmas is pagan!" threads this year. In fact we haven't had ANY in some forums. So we must resort to the Halloween tradition of digging up zombie threads to fill the gap.
 

Magenta

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We haven't had many "Christmas is pagan!" threads this year. In fact we haven't had ANY in some forums.
So we must resort to the Halloween tradition of digging up zombie threads to fill the gap.
Eleven times? :oops::unsure::rolleyes::censored:
 

Cameron143

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We could make it 13 , a bakers dozen. Love bakers!😉😊
I like your style. And who can say no to a freebie?
My motto: when it's free take 2.
My other motto: there's always room for dessert.
 

Papermonkey

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I like your style. And who can say no to a freebie?
My motto: when it's free take 2.
My other motto: there's always room for dessert.
Yes, there's always room and the list is long. 😆

Chocolate mousse, turtle pie, cheesecake, lava cakes, Boston cream pie, strawberry strudel.

Hungry yet? 😉