Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Papermonkey]

It does look like fun. I am tempted to join them. Where can I sign up?

It just maybe possible, that you misunderstanding the idea completely. Your milk container experiment is very impressive, but this quote from Tesla might be even more spectacular.

I have been reading this quote for a few years now, and I think I finally understand it. You may say, this is science fiction, but Einstein said, Nikola Tesla is the smartest person alive, when he was alive.

You seem pretty confident in your airplane aerodynamics, so I'm quite scared on how you will handle any criticism against your milk bottle proof, that shows evidence without a shadow of doubt, that Universal Compression has been proven false. lol

This claim has long been an Internet rumor. However , there is no evidence Tesla actually said any such thing. In fact Tesla often referred to the globe Earth. Namely because many of his inventions depended on that factor.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/tesla-quote-about-earth-not-on-solid-ground/

There is also no proof Einstein genuinely praised Tesla. Given their relationship it is highly unlikely such shall ever be discovered.

There's another false quote credited to Tesla wherein he's to have said ,in brief,Earth is a realm. Not the full false quote. https://flatearth.ws/tesla-realm

 

[Papermonkey]

So we have some flat earthers here. Have any of you ever been in an airplane?

There are FE's that claim Earth cannot be a rotating globe because an airplane could not take off and land on a globe moving in an easterly direction at over 1000mph.

 

[Papermonkey]

The conspiracy theorist asks, Buzz to put his hand on the Bible, and swear he landed on the moon. What did Buzz do? Punched the conspiracy theorist in the face.

You can find the video pretty easily I believe, but it's harder to find, because it highlights some inconsistencies. There are other stories like not seeing stars on the moon and etc/etc.


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There was more to it than that as to what caused Buzz to hit the guy.

The man couldn't be surprised he was punished for having no manners,respect, and being of poor character.
My dad said Buzz was merely charging the guy ahole tax.
This is the full encounter.

 

[Papermonkey]

There was more to it than that as to what caused Buzz to hit the guy.

The man couldn't be surprised he was punished for having no manners,respect, and being of poor character.
My dad said Buzz was merely charging the guy ahole tax.
This is the full encounter.

YT restricts that video due to language.
Here's the shorter cleaner version.

The first space Selfie.

 

[Gideon300]

The conspiracy theorist asks, Buzz to put his hand on the Bible, and swear he landed on the moon. What did Buzz do? Punched the conspiracy theorist in the face.

You can find the video pretty easily I believe, but it's harder to find, because it highlights some inconsistencies. There are other stories like not seeing stars on the moon and etc/etc.


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Maybe Buzz Aldrin was fed up to the back teeth with ignoramuses doubting one of the most dangerous feats ever accomplished. I'm not saying he's right, but I sure can understand his reaction.

 

[Dino246]

Just because a theory doesn't exist … doesn't make it false.

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve read all month.

 

[Moses_Young]

https://crev.info/2022/12/the-last-and-lasting-footprint-on-the-moon/

Go ahead, call these people liars. You will give an account to God for every word that you utter.

Here. Hear it again from the horse's mouth. Buzz Aldrin confesses it.

 

[Moses_Young]

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve read all month.

That's because you're taking it out of context. You don't need a theory for an observation. We don't need a theory for why the sky is blue. There are theories for it - these might even be wrong - but it doesn't change the fact that the sky is blue. The same with Flat Earth. It survives with or without a theory, because it is an observation.

 

[XavierJesusLovesIndia]

The Earth is a Globe, Period. Jesus Christ was in the Heart of the Earth - the Center of the Globe - for 3 Days and Nights.

"It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in." (Isa 40:22, DRB, translated 100s of years ago)

"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Mat 12:40)

Flat Earth Myth is a lie promoted by Anti-Christian Atheists and Agnostics, and believed by some misguided Christians. The reality is, medieval Christians knew the Earth was a Globe, and even knew its (approximate) circumference. Here is the Reference:

"The myth of the flat Earth, or the flat earth error, is a modern historical misconception that European scholars and educated people during the Middle Ages believed the Earth to be flat.[1][2]
... Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[6]

...The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the Earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper's History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White's A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896). Atheists and agnostics championed the conflict thesis for their own purposes, but historical research gradually demonstrated that Draper and White had propagated more fantasy than fact in their efforts to prove that science and religion are locked in eternal conflict.[9]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth To Wikipedia's credit, at least it is setting the historical record straight.

 

[Moses_Young]

The Earth is a Globe, Period. Jesus Christ was in the Heart of the Earth - the Center of the Globe - for 3 Days and Nights.

Why do you believe the Heart of the Earth is the Center of the Globe? Wouldn't the scriptures have used the term "Center of the Globe" if that's what they meant? The Heart of the Earth can exist just as easily on a Flat Earth as it can on a globular Earth. But how can Jesus raise his eyes to Heaven, if the Earth is really a ball spinning about an immensely bigger sun? Wouldn't the direction to Heaven be continually changing, instead of remaining constant and upward?

 

[kinda]

The Earth is a Globe, Period. Jesus Christ was in the Heart of the Earth - the Center of the Globe - for 3 Days and Nights.

"It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in." (Isa 40:22, DRB, translated 100s of years ago)

"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Mat 12:40)

Flat Earth Myth is a lie promoted by Anti-Christian Atheists and Agnostics, and believed by some misguided Christians. The reality is, medieval Christians knew the Earth was a Globe, and even knew its (approximate) circumference. Here is the Reference:

"The myth of the flat Earth, or the flat earth error, is a modern historical misconception that European scholars and educated people during the Middle Ages believed the Earth to be flat.[1][2]
... Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[6]

...The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the Earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper's History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White's A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896). Atheists and agnostics championed the conflict thesis for their own purposes, but historical research gradually demonstrated that Draper and White had propagated more fantasy than fact in their efforts to prove that science and religion are locked in eternal conflict.[9]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth To Wikipedia's credit, at least it is setting the historical record straight.

I agree with you that, the flat earth is in error, but I will question your Catholic Bible (DRB).

Although, 100 years is a long time, the King James Bible, which is regarded by many as the gold standard for Protestants, is over 400 years old.

Most Bible translations translate it to, "circle of the earth", not "the globe of the earth" (DRB) in Isaiah 40:22. There is even a translation for flat earthers in the International Standard Version for it says, "the disc above the earth". These two Bible translations are definitely out of line of most translations. Before you ask, I don't believe in the flat earth, but Concave Hollow Earth, link is below.

https://christianchat.com/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/concave-hollow-earth-theory.198187/

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm


Next you quoted Mathew 12:40, this translation is from NKJB.

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

So, what does mean by, "heart of the earth"? Most Bible translations have, heart of the earth.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/12-40.htm

In Luke 24:1-3, it says the the stone rolled away from the tomb, then they went in and did not find the body of Jesus. Well, it appears the body of Jesus wasn't placed in the heart of the earth, since they were able to easily walk in the tomb. Yes? No? Maybe so?

Luke 24:1-3

1Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, [a]and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. 2But they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. 3Then they went in and did not find the body of the Lord Jesus

But Mathew 12:40 was referring to the time, when he was dead for three days. Right?

Where did Jesus go in Mathew 12:40?

"the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"

Where is the heart of the earth?

That depends if you believe in Concave Hollow Earth, or if you are a globalist.

Left is the globe earth, and right in the Concave Hollow Earth.

If your a globalist, you would naturally believe Jesus, went to hell for three days. If you are a caveman, and believe in the Concave Hollow Earth, you believe Jesus went to heaven for three days.

I personally believe Jesus didn't goto hell, but went to heaven.

2 Corinthians 5:8

We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.


I believe the Bible and the verses posted in this thread, help prove the Cellular Cosmology to be true.

 

[Webers.Home]

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• Matt 12:40 . . For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of
a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the
heart of the earth.

When you think about it, Jesus' crucified dead body never was in the heart
of the Earth: it was laid to rest up on the surface; and not even in the
ground like a normal grave-- his remains were entombed in a hollow rock.
(Matt 27:60)

So, in order for Jesus to be up on the surface of the Earth, and down in its
bowels at the same time; he and his body had to part company.

According to Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-31, when Jesus passed away, he
went to a place in the netherworld called sheol: Jonah went there too.
(Jonah 2:2)

Jonah 2:6 locates sheol at the roots of the mountains. Well, I think we can
all agree that the roots of the mountains aren't situated in the tummies of
fish.

* If Jesus Christ's resurrection is true-- if his dead body was actually
restored to life within three days and three nights just as the prophet's
(Jonah 1:17) --then Jesus most certainly is the one man in the New
Testament that everybody really ought to approach with a great deal of
caution because Jonah's message warned of the impending destruction of
just one city; while Jesus' message warns of the impending destruction of
many cities. (Rev 16:17-19)

• Matt 12:41 . . People of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this
generation and will condemn it; because they repented at what Jonah
preached, but, look! something more than Jonah is here.
_

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

For example, NASA lied about these being photographs of the Earth. If they lied once, they can't reasonably be trusted again. We're not going to always be able to identify every time they lie - in this case, obvious proof that anyone can see took 34 years.

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What's the matter? NASA claims there are 2 earths?
As usual, we are expected to believe this has something to do with NASA "because a flat earther says so"
There are thousands of pictures of earth from before & after the age of computer imaging.
Satellites & The International Space Station are in constant orbit.

If flat earth is a certainty and only flerthers can be trusted, let them do some 'real' imaging of their own.
Let Flat Earth Society crowdfund a small satellite and get some visual evidence.

 

[oyster67]

Pressure does not force an object in any particular direction. Newton's apple could have just as easily fallen up as down, if there was no gravity.

Really? .... Wouldn't it need to have pressure coming out it's bottom?

 

[kinda]

Really? .... Wouldn't it need to have pressure coming out it's bottom?

Come on oyster, you know apples have rocket bottoms. It's a scientific fact that apples have gas! lol

Just take a look of this apple under a electron microscope, this is an official picture taken by scientists at NASA.

 

[oyster67]

Go ahead, call these people liars. You will give an account to God for every word that you utter.

I wonder if "these people" who told our children that they came from monkeys will need to give account for every word they uttered?

 

[Papermonkey]

I wonder if "these people" who told our children that they came from monkeys will need to give account for every word they uttered?

All are judged by God. The faithful and the lost. I'd say yes, they will.
Just as they'll answer for teaching the Earth is flat when God's word states otherwise.

When FE's claim other bodies in our solar system are not flat, they loose all credibility to ever be taken seriously when insisting our home planet is the only one. Not saying FE is ever at all credible of course.

 

[oyster67]

All are judged by God. The faithful and the lost. I'd say yes, they will.
Just as they'll answer for teaching the Earth is flat when God's word states otherwise.

When FE's claim other bodies in our solar system are not flat, they loose all credibility to ever be taken seriously when insisting our home planet is the only one. Not saying FE is ever at all credible of course.

I don't think that flerthing necessarily makes one a bad person.

I mean... what if they're right?

 

[kinda]

All are judged by God. The faithful and the lost. I'd say yes, they will.
Just as they'll answer for teaching the Earth is flat when God's word states otherwise.

When FE's claim other bodies in our solar system are not flat, they loose all credibility to ever be taken seriously when insisting our home planet is the only one. Not saying FE is ever at all credible of course.

I'm done with Flat Earth conversations, until they come up with a working model, that can be tested. Until then, the Flat Earth isn't even a model, it's just a conspiracy theory in every sense.

When globalist says, the earth is a planet, they are lying. Just like they believe the sun is the center of the universe, instead of God. The universe is the earth, and inside the earth is the heavens. There isn't multiple galaxies. This is NASA magic, that most people fall for.

If you think flat earthers lose all credibility when they claim other bodies in the solar system are not flat, wait until you hear what mainstream science says, about the universe. They are now claiming the universe is flat. Look it up. The lies pile higher, than the U.S. national debt. lol

 

[Papermonkey]

I don't think that flerthing necessarily makes one a bad person.

I mean... what if they're right?

They're not correct.
The moon's phases are visual proof they're not. And that is just one proof of many.