Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Papermonkey]

We need to dig a


diversion ditch.

My experience is, don't encourage those who enjoy inviting conflict and feeding off the responces that arrive due to their labors in that regard.
Let us maybe consider to keep Christ's peace in mind. And cover them and those like them in prayer while ignoring their invitation to plum to their level.

 

[kinda]

Go back and read previous pages which have already covered this. This thread has been going for 6 months.

The question was directed to Dino, but since you joined in, what pages covered this?

Also, which side is Dino on referring to the stationary earth, or does he believe in a stationary sun?

 

[kinda]

Let's just make sure this thread does not become septic.

It's in the Bible Study Forum, what are the chances?!?!

 

[Gideon300]

I don't believe the earth is flat, so your flat earth points do nothing for me.

Which 6 born again Christians have said, we live on a globe? Just curious. Who are the hundreds, who have seen the globe? Not the earth, but have seen and confirmed the earth is a globe?

Yes, I know the earth is round on the inside, not the out. So, what's your point exactly?

Your confusing me as a flat earther, which may show your ignorance again. The whole world is seeing it on display now. lol

For the record, you are proclaiming to the world, that sun is the center of the universe, and not God? Just want to make sure how your scientific superiority aligns with your faith. Ever wonder why people worship on Sunday, instead of the Sabbath?!?! It just might be a conspiracy...

My beliefs in a concave hollow earth, confirms that God is in the center of our universe, and the sun is orbiting inside the earth, and also orbiting around God. God is the center of our lives and the universe.

Astronauts Jim Irwin, Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Ed White and Gordon Cooper. They know that the earth is a globe. How you get that the earth is hollow is beyond me.

https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/men/astronauts-who-trusted-science-and-god.html

 

[Gideon300]

Far more lied about the covid-19 vaccines, with much more serious and immediate effect. Many probably lied with the best intentions. Born again Christians are not God - they are still fallible. And many who claim to be are not.

And even if you're referring to the astro-nots, at least some admitted toward the end of their lives they had lied, but in a subtle way, so as not to get themselves or their families killed, most likely.

You've not responded to any of the points I made. You can't because FE theory has no answers.

 

[kinda]

Astronauts Jim Irwin, Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Ed White and Gordon Cooper. They know that the earth is a globe. How you get that the earth is hollow is beyond me.

https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/men/astronauts-who-trusted-science-and-god.html

I'm having a hard time seeing where these 6 men state the earth is a globe, but will take your word for it.

Isn't Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong the two astronauts who couldn't see stars on the moon? They can see the earth is a globe, but they can't see the stars on the moon. O.k.. Sure would of been nice if they would of taken pictures of those stars during some part of the mission to the moon, that is supposedly 250,000 miles long (according to heliocentric model).

I did notice you bypassed a few questions that were presented, but will restate them, if you want to give it another shot.

Who are the hundreds, who have seen the globe? Not the earth, but have seen and confirmed the earth is a globe?

For the record, you are proclaiming to the world, that sun is the center of the universe, and not God?

Here is the concave hollow earth thread, just in case you really do wonder, how it's possible for some to believe it to be true. By the way, I find the earth spinning at 1,000 miles per hour, while also traveling at 66,600 mph around the sun, to be quite outside the realms of possibility, but you can believe what you want, that is your choice.

https://christianchat.com/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/concave-hollow-earth-theory.198187/

 

[Gideon300]

Please educate me on why, the faster planes fly, the more the nose is pitched up? I don't want to be ignorant any more.

Please go into depth on aerodynamics between a commercial airlines, concord jet, and SR71. Is it that all these planes are just coincidence on speed vs angle of attack?

I don't mind your rudeness, as long as you can back up what you say. So, please go into depth on the aerodynamics of those three airliners, if you don't, than maybe the ignorance on your side.

The SR71 was one of the fastest aircraft ever made. It could fly at something like 90,00 feet. The true height is classified still, as far as I know. It was in no way a commercial aircraft.

Angle of attack is typically 2-5 degrees in level flight. It depends on the design of the wing. If the aircraft is ascending, the angle of attack is increased, of course. If the pilot takes it too steeply, the airflow over the wing stops producing lift and the aircraft will stall. Wing design is critical to performance. An A380 wing would be useless on a Concorde. There would be way too much drag.

The aircraft has to be able to descend and land as well as ascend and fly level. Wing design has to take all this into account. I've seen a number of RC aircraft that struggle to land because the wings provide too much lift. That's why real aircraft incorporate flaps. it changes the shape of the wing to suit the high angle of attack required for landing.

 

[Gideon300]

I'm having a hard time seeing where these 6 men state the earth is a globe, but will take your word for it.

Isn't Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong the two astronauts who couldn't see stars on the moon? They can see the earth is a globe, but they can't see the stars on the moon. O.k.. Sure would of been nice if they would of taken pictures of those stars during some part of the mission to the moon, that is supposedly 250,000 miles long (according to heliocentric model).

I did notice you bypassed a few questions that were presented, but will restate them, if you want to give it another shot.

Who are the hundreds, who have seen the globe? Not the earth, but have seen and confirmed the earth is a globe?

For the record, you are proclaiming to the world, that sun is the center of the universe, and not God?

Here is the concave hollow earth thread, just in case you really do wonder, how it's possible for some to believe it to be true. By the way, I find the earth spinning at 1,000 miles per hour, while also traveling at 66,600 mph around the sun, to be quite outside the realms of possibility, but you can believe what you want, that is your choice.

https://christianchat.com/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/concave-hollow-earth-theory.198187/

The universe is God's creation. He is far above the universe. When He's done with this one, He will create a new heavens and earth. Maybe that one will really be flat. I'd be surprised if it was otherwise.

12 people have physically walked on the moon. 12 more have been in orbit around the moon. Over 600 people have been into space. Right now, 10 people are in space.

 

[kinda]

The SR71 was one of the fastest aircraft ever made. It could fly at something like 90,00 feet. The true height is classified still, as far as I know. It was in no way a commercial aircraft.

Angle of attack is typically 2-5 degrees in level flight. It depends on the design of the wing. If the aircraft is ascending, the angle of attack is increased, of course. If the pilot takes it too steeply, the airflow over the wing stops producing lift and the aircraft will stall. Wing design is critical to performance. An A380 wing would be useless on a Concorde. There would be way too much drag.

The aircraft has to be able to descend and land as well as ascend and fly level. Wing design has to take all this into account. I've seen a number of RC aircraft that struggle to land because the wings provide too much lift. That's why real aircraft incorporate flaps. it changes the shape of the wing to suit the high angle of attack required for landing.

So just trying to bring the point home. Commercial airliners are about 2.5 degrees nose up, Concorde when it flew was about 5 degrees nose up, and SR 71 was 7-8 degrees nose up. Commercial airliners travel about 600 mph, Concorde traveled at 1,300 mph, and SR 71 travelled at 2,000 mph.

Do you notice that the planes, the faster they go, that angle of attack, or amount of degrees the plane has to fly nose up, to maintain level flight in relationship to the ground?!?! Here is the question, I was looking for an answer for, not general aerodynamics that a quick google search can muster up. I put it in bold, so it will be hard to miss.

Please go into depth on aerodynamics between a commercial airlines, concord jet, and SR71. Is it that all these planes are just coincidence on speed vs angle of attack?

 

[GaryA]

Is this a direct quote for Eric Dubay?!?! Is this original material, or was it copied?

It came directly out of my thoughts during a period of time preceeding the submission of the post.

It is as 'original' as it gets...

 

[Papermonkey]

Astronauts Jim Irwin, Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Ed White and Gordon Cooper. They know that the earth is a globe. How you get that the earth is hollow is beyond me.

https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/men/astronauts-who-trusted-science-and-god.html

Yes I agree, they knew the earth is a globe.
So does today's astronaut Jessica Meir.
Below is the photo she took while aboard the international space station. The article was published in 2020.

Puzzled Flat-Earthers left raging after Nasa astronaut posts photo from the ISS

 

[GaryA]

Looks like Rhamstein is poking fun of the moon landing.

I think it runs a lot deeper than that...

I believe the intent and message of the song is to proclaim and illustrate that the whole world has been transformed by-and-into 'Amerika'.

Thus - "we all live in Amerika" is talking about everyone - in the entire world.

The moon scenario is to signify the "lies and deception" of 'Amerika' that have "enchanted, entranced, and beguiled" the whole world into becoming 'Amerika'.

In other words, the influence of 'Amerika' on the whole world has caused the whole world to become 'Amerika'.

The song is saying that the whole world is now 'Amerika'.

 

[GaryA]

I personally adhere to the pregnant-pear model.

When will the little pear(s) arrive...?

 

[kinda]

I think it runs a lot deeper than that...

I believe the intent and message of the song is to proclaim and illustrate that the whole world has been transformed by-and-into 'Amerika'.

Thus - "we all live in Amerika" is talking about everyone - in the entire world.

The moon scenario is to signify the "lies and deception" of 'Amerika' that have "enchanted, entranced, and beguiled" the whole world into becoming 'Amerika'.

In other words, the influence of 'Amerika' on the whole world has caused the whole world to become 'Amerika'.

The song is saying that the whole world is now 'Amerika'.

I was trying to stay on topic with the thread, but o.k., good to know. lol

 

[Moses_Young]

Proving a flat Earth would definitely be an uphill battle.

That's the good thing about Flat Earth. As a Flat Earth is an observation rather than a theory, we don't need to prove it. Burden of proof is on the globalists (whether these be heliocentrists or concave-Earthers).

 

[Webers.Home]

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Jessica Meir. Below is the photo she took while aboard the international
space station.

The flatters with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy theorists
alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and the
European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts, all
the cartographers, and all the folks involved in designing satellite
communications and the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into
believing the Earth is spherical.
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[Webers.Home]

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Isn't Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong the two astronauts who couldn't see
stars on the moon? They can see the earth is a globe, but they can't see the
stars on the moon.

The human eye has difficulty with extreme contrasts; and cameras even
more so.

The thing is: in order to obtain a credible picture of stars from the Moon, the
photo would have to include the Moon in the shot too; which is nigh unto
impossible because the Moon's albedo is so intense that a camera can't show
stars along with the Moon because the stars are so much dimmer. Anybody
that's taken pictures at night can verify the difficulty with extreme contrasts
I'm talking about.

As for the astronauts: they would have to shield their eyes from the Moon's
surface brightness for at least 30 minutes in order for their visual purple to
regenerate sufficiently to make it possible for the guys to see stars in a black
sky; and any reflected glare in their visors from the Moon's surface would of
course frustrate their efforts. All in all: the daylight side of the Moon isn't an
ideal location for stargazing.
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[kinda]

I will try this again......

So, can we talk about the Bible in reference to each cosmological view point? This is the Bible Forum!?!? So, we should be talking about the Bible.

Can I get an Amen?

You never been to the sun, yet you believe the sun is the center of the universe, not only that, but you believe the sun is stationary. The Bible even says, the earth is stationary, but you are being a sceptic of the Bible, for saying the earth is moving. Is this still Christian Chat, or anti-christ science class?!?!

Psalm 104:5

He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

Here are some more Bible verses, that earth movers will have to compensate for. Just letting you know, you will be trying to disprove the Bible. This is the Bible study forum, so let's hear you side of things, in the Biblical sense.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/the_earth_orbiting_the_sun


Let the Bible study begin.....

 

[kinda]

For the astronauts who think the earth is traveling 66,600 mph around the sun, and spinning 1,000 mph, how to you account for scripture, that seems to be pretty clear that the earth ISN'T moving?!?! Also, do the Flat Earth Pizza Makers believe the earth is stationary, or moving? (Giving each side to present their views).

Concave Hollow Earth Cavemen believe the earth isn't moving, but the stars, sun, and moon are orbiting inside the earth.

Bible verses in a Bible Study Forum thread.

You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever, Psalm 104:5

Tremble before Him, all the earth. The world also is firmly established, It shall not be moved 1 Chronicles 16:30

The LORD reigns, He is clothed with majesty; The LORD is clothed, He has girded Himself with strength. Surely the world is established, so that it cannot be moved. Psalm 93:1

Say among the nations, “The LORD reigns; The world also is firmly established, It shall not be moved; He shall judge the peoples righteously.”

You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever, Psalm 104:5

 

[oyster67]

When will the little pear(s) arrive...?

At the pre-trib rupture.