Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Please pay really close attention to the reality that is indicated and illustrated in this video:

The Flat Earthers have showed their hands. This post is profound, because I heard a youtuber talking about this guy, Eric Dubay. This is like the brain trust of the Flat Earth Community. If you want to know where this non-sense is originating from, it's this guy. Flat Earthers just parrot Eric Dubay and sorta just glaze over, if you question the flat earth, because it's not covered by Eric Dubay.

I will say this much though, sometimes the flat earthers have valid points, but it's quickly forgotten after the numerous clueless posts, that follow after.

 

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The Earth has to be flat because if an airplane were to fly perfectly level
over the surface of a sphere without respect for gravity, it would take the
path of a tangent, and go off into space.
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Not so. Commercial planes fly nose up at 2.5 degrees, this to account for the concavity of the earth, not because the earth is convex. If the earth was convex, commercial planes would have to fly nose down at 2.5 degrees, but I do understand what you are saying.

Another proof for concave earth, although nice trying to prove a flat earth. I agree that the Heliocentric Model is proven wrong though, but disagree with your conclusion, that we live on a earth shaped like a pizza. Although, I do like pizza! lol

 

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Nope. Aircraft follow a flight path relative to sea level. Pilots have no choice as if they get too high, the air is too thin to support the aircraft. For military aircraft, the maximum is usually classified. The SR 71 was recorded to have reached 90,000 feet.

For commercial aircraft, it's the maximum is about 45,000 feet. So in reality the aircraft does follow the curvature of the earth. It does not fly perfectly level. If it did, eventually it would either stall due to insufficient lift or the engines would fail due to lack of air.

90,000 feet is 17 miles, so it's entirely possible. SR 71 flies nose up some where between 7-8 degrees. If the earth was convex, it would fly nose down at 7-8 degrees. Think about it.

If you think this is non-sense, consider Joshua Nowicki's photo.


https://www.abc57.com/news/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shoreline

 

[GaryA]

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Probably the flatters with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
all the cartographers, and all the folks involved in designing satellite
communications and the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into
believing the Earth is spherical.

* A pretty good alternative to an earth shaped like a coin might be a cube;
sort of like the one occupied by Star Trek's Borg.
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Here is the 'mastermind' of your 'collusion':

Revelation 12:

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

It is unfortunate that you do not believe that Satan is actually capable of doing such - or, that he has actually done it.

Is the 'covid' subterfuge not a world-wide deception? (Anyone who does not know this is still being deceived by it.)

And, this is only one-of-many forms of deception that Satan has accomplished world-wide. There are many others.

Not everyone involved has to be "in on it" - many organizations maintain their operations on a "need to know" basis. Most of the people "at the bottom" are just/simply "doing their job" and have no knowledge of their participation in the deception.

Here is the 'mastermind' of your 'collusion':

Revelation 12:

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

It is unfortunate that you do not believe that Satan is actually capable of doing such - or, that he has actually done it.

Is the 'covid' subterfuge not a world-wide deception? (Anyone who does not know this is still being deceived by it.)

And, this is only one-of-many forms of deception that Satan has accomplished world-wide. There are many others.

Not everyone involved has to be "in on it" - many organizations maintain their operations on a "need to know" basis. Most of the people "at the bottom" are just/simply "doing their job" and have no knowledge of their participation in the deception.

 

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I like this point, but it works far better in a Concave Earth.

This is the Mapparium in Boston.

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7

 

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Van Allen Radiation Belts. There is no way a space craft would be able to get able to go through that, that is why we haven't seen any return flights there. You would think after 50 years, NASA would have International Space Station on the moon, not orbiting the earth.

This guy does a pretty good job in a short video, disproving the moon landing.

I dug out the old Moon Landing thread in the Conspiracy Forum. This topic has already been discussed, even more so with the Flat Earth.

https://christianchat.com/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/did-man-land-on-the-moon.197547/

That's a pretty good video since NASA is affirming repeatedly they can't leave earth orbit now. There are professional tools that can create a 3D model of a scene by analyzing video. The position of the foreground and background objects, cameras, light(s) are all computed. These tools don't conclusively prove that NASA didn't go to the moon, only that much of their footage is a lie.

This has nothing to do with flat earth. A liar doesn't lie about everything all the time.

Some flat earthers are evil and trying to make sincere Christians who are bad at math look dumb.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

The Flat Earth theory was mostly invented and promoted by evolutionists for the purpose of slandering Christians.

• "The flat earth remained clearly in the realm of fiction until after Darwin published his Origin of Species in 1859. Two of Darwin’s followers then elevated it to a historical claim in books defending Darwinism and attacking Christianity: John Draper’s The History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874), and Andrew Dickson White’s A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896).
  So defenders of Darwinism who ridicule their critics for being like believers in a flat earth are being misled by a myth that Darwinists themselves helped to create."[1]

"Christianity did not invent or promote the myth of the flat Earth." Who invented the flat Earth? (ChristianAnswers.net)

'The reason for promoting both the specific lie about the sphericity of the earth and the general lie that religion and science are in natural and eternal conflict in Western society, is to defend Darwinism. The answer is really only slightly more complicated than that bald statement. The flat-earth lie was ammunition against the creationists. The argument was simple and powerful, if not elegant: "Look how stupid these Christians are. They are always getting in the way of science and progress. These people who deny evolution today are exactly the same sort of people as those idiots who for at least a thousand years denied that the earth was round. How stupid can you get?"'

The Myth of the Flat Earth, by Jeffrey Burton Russell.

 

[jamesp]

Proving the earth is flat in this age is of course easy to do. In contrast proving that the flood was the primary factor in altering the surface of the earth is a bit more challenging even to this day.

The rapid acceptance of 'the study of geology' in the 17th century to prove(or disprove) that the Biblical flood altered the surface of the earth is an example of the rebellious/faithless motives of scientists. To this day some of the most brilliant scientists have extremely complex theories about 'how' the surface of the earth has evolved over 4.5 million years instead of a flood event lasting a couple of years.

If these scientists learn the truth of the flood's geological impact they will be totally embarrassed at how far away from the truth they were. Guessing God knew darn well man would challenge the creation. Guessing he knew that in their 'brilliant' conclusions they would be nothing more than a laughing stock should the truth be learned. Imagine the reaction of the scientific community that finds out their 4.5 million year event was in reality a ~2 year event. They only missed it by ~4,999,999,998 years !

Whatever their theories may say, mankind embraced them willingly enough to build colleges teaching youth many of these myths to the point they are now accepted internationally. Retraction of their theories will not likely never happen.

Mankind continues to laugh at the Biblical record of Noah and his ark. Assigning the covenant rainbow as the symbol of LGBT. Laughing at creationists. God said he would wipe out humanity in the flood. Oddly there is very very little fossil record of humans as if God purged every single piece of evidence of the pre-flood population as it appears he said he would. Simply amazing.

 

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Gravity, velocity, and centrifugal force are major factors keeping airplanes
up in the sky, and satellites out there orbiting the Earth. Those three factors
are also major during Moon landings and recovering LEMs. Those factors will
be very major whenever somebody gets around to landing people on Mars.

* Probably the flatters with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
all the cartographers, and all the folks involved in designing satellite
communications and the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into
believing the Earth is spherical.
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That's a pretty good video since NASA is affirming repeatedly they can't leave earth orbit now. There are professional tools that can create a 3D model of a scene by analyzing video. The position of the foreground and background objects, cameras, light(s) are all computed. These tools don't conclusively prove that NASA didn't go to the moon, only that much of their footage is a lie.

This has nothing to do with flat earth. A liar doesn't lie about everything all the time.

Some flat earthers are evil and trying to make sincere Christians who are bad at math look dumb.

There is no way a man landed on the moon, it's just not possible. I think the moon landing marks the point in which the government has lost the trust of the American people. Pretty much everything after that has been a Hollywood story.

Lee Harvey Oswalt the lone shooter, that kills the JFK. LBJ and the Vietnam War. Richard Nixon and Watergate/Moon Landings...........I could go on. Remember Oliver North?!?! Bill Clinton giving China military secrets.............. Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. 911

Yes, flat earthers should study up, before they start posting. It looks really bad. We can all blame Eric Dubay though, this guy in the ring leader on the non-sense.

 

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There is no way a man landed on the moon, it's just not possible.

It may not be possible for you, but for others I think yes. And honestly; you
really should consider upgrading your primitive way of thinking so that it
aligns with discoveries. I mean, there was a time in the past when it was
thought by many impossible for men to fly; but men eventually figured out
how.
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It may not be possible for you, but for others I think yes. And honestly; you
really should consider upgrading your primitive way of thinking so that it
aligns with discoveries. I mean, there was a time in the past when it was
thought by many impossible for men to fly; but men eventually figured out
how.
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But, I'm the caveman that says, the earth we live in is concave. Cavemen are primitive, it's in our nature. lol

Can I ask which discoveries proves we landed on the moon? Just curious! I seen the movie Capricorn 1, but I don't believe O.J. went to Mars for the record. lol

The Bible talks about men flying to heaven, so those men who questioned flight, probably weren't reading.

And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. https://biblehub.com/2_kings/2-11.htm

 

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WHY>>>WHY>>>>WHY>>>>>BUT HERE IT IS>>>>>SM>>>Sado-Masichism>>>>Social Media>>>>equivalency
I've heard flat earthers say that if the Earth were really "spinning" at 1000 mph at the equator, people would be thrown into space.

This is, of course, absurd when you realize that if you were standing on a ball that spins once every 24 hours you wouldn't even see or feel it move because that's so very, very slow.

 

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Can I ask which discoveries proves we landed on the moon?

Conditions do not allow for me to review the entire history of manned flight
beginning with the Wright Brothers in 1903 and culminating with Apollo 11
in 1969.

Probably the flatters ( and concavers) with the weakest legs to stand on are
the conspiracy theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX,
Google Earth, and the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams,
all the astronauts, all the cartographers, and all the folks involved in
designing satellite communications and the GPS system, have colluded to
fool the world into believing the Earth is spherical.
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Conditions do not allow for me to review the entire history of manned flight
beginning with the Wright Brothers in 1903 and culminating with Apollo 11
in 1969.

Probably the flatters ( and concavers) with the weakest legs to stand on are
the conspiracy theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX,
Google Earth, and the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams,
all the astronauts, all the cartographers, and all the folks involved in
designing satellite communications and the GPS system, have colluded to
fool the world into believing the Earth is spherical.
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Fooling people isn't difficult, just saying. There are people who still believe the NFL and Professional Wrestling is real....

I remember telling this girl's brother that pro wrestling was fake, he was about 18, and I was about 16. Let's just say, he didn't think it was to cute, and took offense to the statement.

I remember when I was about 10, I figured Pro Wrestling was fake, it took me until I was about 25 to realize the NFL was fake. People have their different levels of learning. It's never to late to learn that the moon landings were faked.

By the way, I do believe the earth is spherical, but from the inside perspective, not the outside. So, at least get your story straight, or maybe try to understand what the other person is saying, before going on the teleprompter. lol

 

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My Ford Ranger is capable of moving at 70 mph. It has yet to throw me out
in the street and that's because gravity assures that my Ranger and I always
move together at the same velocity. Now if my truck should come to a
sudden and complete stop-- like slamming into a bridge abutment --then my
body's momentum would likely overcome gravity just enough to carry me
right out the windshield unless my seat belt were fastened.

* 1,000 mph is too slow to throw people off into space. For that to happen,
they need to be going 25,020 mph.
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My Ford Ranger is capable of moving at 70 mph. It has yet to throw me out
in the street and that's because gravity assures that my Ranger and I always
move together at the same velocity. Now if my truck should come to a
sudden and complete stop-- like slamming into a bridge abutment --then my
body's momentum would likely overcome gravity just enough to carry me
right out the windshield unless my seat belt were fastened.

* 1,000 mph is too slow to throw people off into space. For that to happen,
they need to be going 25,020 mph.
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Deep thoughts right here...

Well, if you believe the Heliocentric model, then get ready to fly into space, because according to your own believed science, the earth is orbiting the sun at 66,600 mph, or a speed close to this.

 

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Fooling people isn't difficult, just saying.

That's for sure; I mean just look how successful Dr. Anthony Fauci's
collusion with the FDA, the CDC, and the NIH has been at fooling Americans
with spurious Covid science.

However, in order for NASA to fool Americans into believing the earth is flat,
concave, or whatever, it would be necessary to collude with Russia, China,
SpaceX, Google Earth, and the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging
teams, all the astronauts, all the cartographers, and all the folks involved in
designing satellite communications and the GPS system; not to mention all
the engineers, mathematicians, astronomers, physicists, tradesmen, and
contractors involved with space related stuff.

* There's a Native American woman up in the international space station. I'm
very proud of her because I have 13 Native American nieces and nephews. I
had 14, but one dropped dead of natural causes a few years back.
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[GaryA]

I think some of you are getting the 'cause-and-effect' characteristics of 'gravity' and 'momentum' confused...

And, I am still waiting for an explanation on how the downward force of gravity can manifest an impervious 'hard-lock' grasp on anything enough to move it sideways against all other forces in existence as if they did not exist at all.

 

[GaryA]

Probably the flatters with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
all the cartographers, and all the folks involved in designing satellite
communications and the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into
believing the Earth is spherical.

Here is the 'mastermind' of your 'collusion':

Revelation 12:

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

It is unfortunate that you do not believe that Satan is actually capable of doing such - or, that he has actually done it.

Is the 'covid' subterfuge not a world-wide deception? (Anyone who does not know this is still being deceived by it.)

And, this is only one-of-many forms of deception that Satan has accomplished world-wide. There are many others.

Not everyone involved has to be "in on it" - many organizations maintain their operations on a "need to know" basis. Most of the people "at the bottom" are just/simply "doing their job" and have no knowledge of their participation in the deception.