Joel & Victoria Osteen: This Blew My Mind

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ResidentAlien

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See the Victoria Osteen clip in this video starting at 00:40. They're not even pretending anymore.

 
oyster67

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The moral of the story........ "Don't shadow your cactus." :oops::rolleyes::unsure::whistle:
 
Lafftur

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ResidentAlien said:
See the Victoria Osteen clip in this video starting at 00:40. They're not even pretending anymore.

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What Victoria Osteen said was taken out of context… no more than when legalistic Pharisees twist scriptures.

Isn’t there a blessing for us when we obey God? Isn’t it really for our good then to obey God?
Aren’t there consequences for not obeying God?

RA - you’re creating division in the Body of Christ and you need to stop. Enough.
 
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osteen- good Christian based motivational speaker.

pastor? not so much..
 
Lafftur

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gb9 said:
osteen- good Christian based motivational speaker.

pastor? not so much..
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I think he’s a great pastor! Perfect Pastor…No, and neither are you or me!
 
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Lafftur said:
I think he’s a great pastor! Perfect Pastor…No, and neither are you or me!
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Osteen is a FRAUD. But people would rather be deceived than face the truth.
 
ResidentAlien

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Lafftur said:
What Victoria Osteen said was taken out of context… no more than when legalistic Pharisees twist scriptures.
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How is it out of context? Please explain or provide a source that can demonstrate what you mean. I certainly wouldn't want to be a Pharisee.
 
shittim

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We all come to Him as we are, but we don't stay the way we are.
You do attempt to create division in the Body of Christ.:unsure::):coffee:
 
shittim

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where in my post did you misinterpret ?
The first sentence, or the second sentence, or both?
Your very question reveals another way you attempt to cause division.
best wishes
 
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Lafftur said:
What Victoria Osteen said was taken out of context… no more than when legalistic Pharisees twist scriptures.

Isn’t there a blessing for us when we obey God? Isn’t it really for our good then to obey God?
Aren’t there consequences for not obeying God?

RA - you’re creating division in the Body of Christ and you need to stop. Enough.
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Im pretty sure scripture states that everything we do, do it for the glory of God. Personal gain? Nope.
 
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These comments brought this scripture to mind. Don't know why.

Acts 18:14 And when Paul was now about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, If it were a matter of wrong or wicked lewdness, O ye Jews, reason would that I should bear with you:
 
shittim

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hmm... locoponydirtman doesn't like scripture?:unsure::):coffee:
 
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There is not much to say here. Osteen and his ilk are a serious problem for the christian community. They are the teaxhers for itchy ears; for those who will not stand the teaching of sound doctrine.
 
ResidentAlien

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shittim said:
where in my post did you misinterpret ?
The first sentence, or the second sentence, or both?
Your very question reveals another way you attempt to cause division.
best wishes
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Let the record show you have no interest in being understood.
 
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shittim said:
hmm... locoponydirtman doesn't like scripture?:unsure::):coffee:
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Satan is the false accuser. Are gonna play the role of satan?
I dislike when people abuse scripture, and misapply it to suit their agenda.
 
ResidentAlien

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From my perspective division isn't necessarily a bad thing. If not for division every kind of wolf and false doctrine would be allowed free reign. Those who cry "division!" the most loudly are usually those who are made to look bad by the truth.
 
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Lafftur said:
What Victoria Osteen said was taken out of context… no more than when legalistic Pharisees twist scriptures.
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I don’t want to take her words out of context so I’m asking you to please put in to context what she meant. Thank you. 😊
 
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