Senate passes same-sex marriage bill with bipartisan support

[Scarecrow]

No reason? Sociological factors, birth/death rates, disease, cost of medical insurance and taxes, the social construct of the family being absent of one biological father or mother. These are real issues for a nation to consider.

i don't see any real issues here. can you elaborate?

 

[Scarecrow]

Pedophiles and homosexual men who chase little boys should all be labeled as sodomists.

They're both going after the same thing outside of the age issue.

Pedophiles should be another term for homosexuality when the Pedophile chooses boys as their victims.

Almost all child molesters are heterosexual men

 

[Dude653]

Pedophiles and homosexual men who chase little boys should all be labeled as sodomists.

They're both going after the same thing outside of the age issue.

Pedophiles should be another term for homosexuality when the Pedophile chooses boys as their victims.

Difference is a child can't legally consent. That's why we have statutory rape laws
That's why we put child molesters in prison.
A consensual relationship between two adults is not even remotely the same thing

 

[HeIsHere]

Well I already covered this but that's where we disagree because a consensual relationship between two adults has nothing to do with morality
An action is moral if it promotes general well-being or reduces unnecessary suffering
An action is immoral if it causes unnecessary suffering or reduces general well-being

Based on what?

 

[Scarecrow]

It is statistically obvious which group is most prone and transmittance of STDs. The higher the cost of healthcare on the whole affects the individual paying in.

statistically the group most prone is young unmarried straight men.

 

[Scarecrow]

In Cali they are letting "minor attracted" persons, the rest of us say pedophiles,

[ you've tried to make this claim before, it still isn't true.

 

[Dude653]

Based on what?

Empathy and well-being. We already covered this

 

[Scarecrow]

You are well versed in this flimsy excuse you continue to recite.

you mean facts

 

[Scarecrow]

No. But they are not the blame of Christians but non Christians. It was Christians who corrected these ills.

so now you are saying that the people who wrote the Constitution of the United States were NOT Christians.

 

[Scarecrow]

I've already made my opinion on that I don't have any problem with two same-sex people getting married but ask for the baker incident, they deliberately sold out a Christian Baker just so they could sue him

actually it was the state that filed the lawsuit.

 

[kaylagrl]

[ you've tried to make this claim before, it still isn't true.

Which claim??

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Don't cut yourself on all that edge over there

I live by the Bible so I am used to being cut by unbelievers. Especially those who are hiding what they are while trying to make God at fault for how they are.

 

[HeIsHere]

Empathy and well-being. We already covered this

Define well being? What are the parameters of well being.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Difference is a child can't legally consent. That's why we have statutory rape laws
That's why we put child molesters in prison.
A consensual relationship between two adults is not even remotely the same thing

Due to State laws my Dad couldn't get my brother from another marriage until he was 15. By that time, he had been molested by the Cub Scouts leader and the Catholic Priest his mother forced him to be altar boy for.

Today, I have access to literally hundreds of homosexuals and lesbians who have all told me they're gay because the abuse as a child messed them up.

In fact, when I make claims in the direction of Scarecrow and Yourself, I am quoting these people who live a lifestyle because of mental illness from abuse.

That is why I refuse what science claims because I have real testimonials to be my voice in this debate.

 

[HeIsHere]

Due to State laws my Dad couldn't get my brother from another marriage until he was 15. By that time, he had been molested by the Cub Scouts leader and the Catholic Priest his mother forced him to be altar boy for.

Today, I have access to literally hundreds of homosexuals and lesbians who have all told me they're gay because the abuse as a child messed them up.

In fact, when I make claims in the direction of Scarecrow and Batman wannabe, I am quoting these people who live a lifestyle because of mental illness from abuse.

That is why I refuse what science claims because I have real testimonials to be my voice in this debate.

Having spent a few years working with homeless people at a drop in-center, many of whom have now died of AIDS, this is often the same for them when they talk about their personal history.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

you mean facts

Not according to a majority of homosexuals from Connecticut, Indiana, Florida, New Jersey, and couple other states my brother and his enterouge claim.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Having spent a few years working with homeless people at a drop in-center, many of whom have now died of AIDS, this is often the same for them when they talk about their personal history.

I believe it.

Because my brother I am able to be around these people and they want me to know their stories.

Not a single homosexual or lesbian in the group was born that way nor do they claim they were. They all pointed to the abuse.

 

[Dude653]

I live by the Bible so I am used to being cut by unbelievers. Especially those who are hiding what they are while trying to make God at fault for how they are.

Why do you think my disagreeing with you is cutting you. You seem to have a persecution complex

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Why do you think my disagreeing with you is cutting you. You seem to have a persecution complex

I was not referring to you. I am making a blanket statement that happens to be fact.

I wasn't even thinking about you but another within the conversation.

It's OK, you can breathe now.

 

[Dude653]

Define well being? What are the parameters of well being.

I would define well-being as everyone having equal rights
Living in relative safety like not living in a place where they will chop my head off or something I say on Facebook
Access to sufficient healthcare
Not starving to death
Not being subjected to unnecessary violence like domestic violence etc
Not having to worry about someone beating you to death with a baseball bat because of your sexual preferences ECT...
I guess not everyone is going to care about well-being so that part is subjective but if we can subjectively agree that human well-being is the goal then there should be things we can objectively agree on that are not conducive to human well-being