Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[tourist]

It makes me wonder how anyone can think a Jet can fly and get to its destination if the earth is spinning.

Seems that if you jumped in the air a few feet you would land a 1/2 mile away as the earth would be spinning beneath you. At the very least it seems that you would not land at the same spot that you jumped from.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

@VARob
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[VARob]

@VARob
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Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[GaryA]

Ultimately, it is not possible to prove anything, no matter how vast the evidence is. Because we can believe anything and for us that is always true.

When polls are conducted on a thousand different topics. There will always be a percentage of the population that agrees, partly agrees, and those that disagree.

That is a fact and that is life.

My post (that you quoted) was not about 'proof' or 'evidence' - except for that which is supplied by 'faith'.

It was about believing what the Bible tells us.

 

[EliB]

Gen 1 ESV

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,​

15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good

Genesis 14 "to separate the day from the night"

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"The lesser light to rule the night" Genesis​

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The cycle we experience was established by God on the 4th Creation day. For us. The beautiy we observe in nature
is a witness to the truth of The Bible.

Lucy, this is false.
That word is firmament, and it means a solid expanse, and God again clarifies that it is the Solid Heaven in that verse. We can understand this by looking to John and Paul who mention the 3 heavens.
This means there is an Open heaven, where the birds and planes fly, the Solid Heaven, which holds the waters above, and God's throne.
That word Does Not Mean expanse or emptiness or emptiness. You need a better bible. Or at least try using BLB app.

 

[EliB]

I find it odd that absolutely no photographic evidence exists regarding the edge of the earth, bogus or otherwise. Also, what are the positions of the countries closest to the edge, in actual miles and the actual miles from each other? Is the shape of the flat earth round, rectangle, square or some other geometric shape?

Im working on providing a basic model and explanation of my understanding of what scripture says. I hope to get it out this weekend. Hope it can clear up some misunderstandings.
Im suprised as you that there hasn't been a dialog of what it is we all actually believe. Hopefully I can help correct that.
God bless you brother.

 

[GaryA]

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Some years ago, I took an interest in star gazing, and anon an interest in
astronomical mathematics. Well; I got as far as Algebra 1 and plane
Geometry in high school but soon discovered that flat math is insufficient for
plotting the paths of heavenly objects. For that, I needed to teach myself
some elements of spherical Geometry; which up till then, didn't even know
existed.

This was back in the days prior to home computers and electronic
calculators. So first I had to round up a good quality slide rule, and then
tables of logarithms and trigonometric functions. I was totally baffled while
simultaneously thoroughly fascinated by it all.

Well, in time I did learn to use the slide rule, and how to work with logs and
trig functions, which came in handy when I took an interest in navigation after
running across a military surplus bubble sextant in a junk shop.

The thing is: when calculating the miles between two distant points on the
surface of the Earth, plane Geometry doesn't work because the path
between the points is arched.

This is an assumption - not something that has been measured.

For instance: How might we calculate the shortest distance on the surface of
the Earth between San Diego California and Boise Idaho? Well, the distance
cannot be calculated with plane Geometry; it has to be calculated with
spherical Geometry because we're dealing with the circumference of a circle
whose focal point is the center of the Earth.

We can 'calculate' all day long - using different methods - and get an answer for each method. However, at the end of the day, if we have not measured anything - to determine which calculation is correct - we have not done anything but mathematics. Assumed shapes, angles, etc. are meaningless if they are not based on something actually measured.

A calculation based on something assumed does not actually prove anything.

It's the same with heavenly objects. They don't cross the sky in straight
lines, rather their paths trace arcs which are very noticeable the closer one
gets to the poles; so we have to deal with the night sky as a dome rather than
a disk.
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Well - a dome - where have I heard that before...?

 

[Webers.Home]

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It makes me wonder how anyone can think a Jet can fly and get to its
destination if the earth is spinning.

The same way a bug flits around the inside of a car moving at 60 mph.
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[HealthAndHappiness]

Guys and Gals,

I started a really cool thread that most aren't aware of yet. If you watch the second video of a world record space jump, you can see what the astronaut guy falling to the earth sees. It's pretty emotional when you know that he starts spinning and might die at way past the speed of sound.

While you are there, watch the other vids too and feel free to add what you like.
Have a blessed day/ night.

Stunts, Extreme Sports and Crazy Stuff

 

[GaryA]

Do you see how that the sunlight is continuous (space and time) from-pole-to-pole at the equinox points of the cycle?

Do you see how the context of this occurrence is identical for both Spring and Autumn?

If this were the reality, the climate would be identical for Spring and Autumn. (But, it is not.)

If this were the reality, the climate would be identical for the North region in Summer and the South region in Winter. (But, it is not.)

 

[GaryA]

Peace and remember that searching for Truth takes time, effort, prayer and will be vigorously attacked.

YEP - and, I definitely understand that last part all-too-well...

 

[GaryA]

I have heard from other flat earth believers that have the distance from the earth to the sun at 3000 miles. The earth would be burnt to a crisp in a nanosecond. Based on the sun / earth distance of 93 - 94 million miles, the diameter of the sun is 400 times that of earth, otherwise the sun would always be visible around the horizon of the earth at night.

At a 3000-mile distance the sun's diameter would have to be roughly the same diameter as the earth. The problem with this is that there would not be enough pressure / fuel for sustained fusion. There would be no sun. It doesn't matter though, because at a distance apart of 3000 miles there would be no earth.

For it to make sense, you must look at 'Flat Earth' from a 'Flat Earth' model point-of-view and not a 'Ball Earth' model point-of-view.

 

[Gideon300]

Fallen angels are, well, fallen = from obedience to God to disobedience.

They came to earth and taught man many things and they did many things that made men marvel and worship them.

They so polluted the world with their knowledge, which yielded violence and great perversion, that God had to Flood the world to cleanse it.

"There is nothing new under the sun, what has been will be."

"The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder,"

That has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. The Babylonians came after the flood, or perhaps that fact escaped your attention. Funnily enough, so did the Greeks, who demonstrated that the earth is a globe. You should try thinking before typing.

 

[Gideon300]

For it to make sense, you must look at 'Flat Earth' from a 'Flat Earth' model point-of-view and not a 'Ball Earth' model point-of-view.

It is impossible to look at the earth from a flat earth model. It's NOT flat. A model is only as good as its data. Garbage in, Garbage out. FE concepts are garbage.

 

[Gideon300]

The Babylonians, DavidTree is referring to, are Satanic.

So what? Satan quoted the Bible to Jesus in the temptation in the wilderness. Does that make the Bible false?

 

[DavidTree]

So what? Satan quoted the Bible to Jesus in the temptation in the wilderness. Does that make the Bible false?

YES = for THREE most important reasons

1.) "did God really say" = satan used God's words to Eve with a Twist of Sin in her Drink

2.) Satan quoted scripture for the purpose and intent of SIN = in this case misapplication.

3.) the heart of man is desperately wicked and only the LORD can SEE all of it's motives and intentions.

God's words are to be trusted, whereas men who do not submit to the will and words of God cannot = even when they quote scripture.
example: the Pope, Jim Jones, Jehovah Witnesses, to name a few

 

[DavidTree]

So what? Satan quoted the Bible to Jesus in the temptation in the wilderness. Does that make the Bible false?

Some words of God for you to ponder = Amos 9:1-2

Amos 9:1-2

I saw the Lord standing by the altar, and He said:
“Strike the oorposts, that the thresholds may shake,
And break them on the heads of them all.
I will slay the last of them with the sword.
He who flees from them shall not get away,
And he who escapes from them shall not be delivered.

“Though they dig into hell,
From there My hand shall take them;
Though they climb up to heaven,
From there I will bring them down;"

Don't drink the Cool-Aid from NASA and the World = "we will build a city and a tower unto heaven".

 

[DavidTree]

That has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. The Babylonians came after the flood, or perhaps that fact escaped your attention. Funnily enough, so did the Greeks, who demonstrated that the earth is a globe. You should try thinking before typing.

The fallen angels never stopped communicating with sinful man.

It is going on today, even within the U.S. Government.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.


“Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

 

[Webers.Home]

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You gotta love the Earth's time zones. For example it's possible to leave the
east coast in a high speed conveyance and arrive in San Diego before you
took off.


Here's a neat little brain buster.

Airplane A takes off from Miami at 200 mph

Airplane B takes off from Miami one hour later at 300 mph

How long will it take A to catch up with B, and how far from Miami?
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[Webers.Home]

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oops! The brain buster in post No.1599 is worded wrong. Here's the
corrected version.

Airplane A takes off from Miami at 200 mph

Airplane B takes off from Miami one hour later at 300 mph

How long will it take B to catch up with A, and how far from Miami?
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