Is faith a work?
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Classic Calvinism. But there are no verses to support this claim.
In fact, the opposite is true. The gospel message of salvation is offered to everyone. Titus 2:11 - For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
Then, God is pleased to save those who believe. 1 Cor 1:21 - For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
A jailer asked Paul what he MUST DO to be saved, and Paul's answer was most uncalvinistic: believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.
In fact, the opposite is true. The gospel message of salvation is offered to everyone. Titus 2:11 - For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
Then, God is pleased to save those who believe. 1 Cor 1:21 - For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
A jailer asked Paul what he MUST DO to be saved, and Paul's answer was most uncalvinistic: believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.
I explained it to you accurately. Please read these additional versions and translations to get a better idea. Something is being given first, next it can be believed in. It's something granted as a privilege, but the act of believing is voluntary and a choice.
Philippians 1:29
New International Version
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,
New Living Translation
For you have been given not only the privilege of trusting in Christ but also the privilege of suffering for him.
English Standard Version
For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake,
Berean Standard Bible
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for Him,
Berean Literal Bible
For it has been granted to you concerning Christ, not only to believe in Him but also to suffer concerning Him,
King James Bible
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
New King James Version
For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
Philippians 1:29
New International Version
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,
New Living Translation
For you have been given not only the privilege of trusting in Christ but also the privilege of suffering for him.
English Standard Version
For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake,
Berean Standard Bible
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for Him,
Berean Literal Bible
For it has been granted to you concerning Christ, not only to believe in Him but also to suffer concerning Him,
King James Bible
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
New King James Version
For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
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FreeGrace2 said:
Rather, God was speaking about nations. It was the Edomites that persecuted the Israelites.
God hates nations that persecute His people. God does not hate individuals. Or Jesus would not have died for them.
My statement stands. God does NOT hate individuals.
You couldn't be more wrong. Combining your opinion with your name, it appears sovereign grace isn't so "gracey" towards some individuals.
Christ died for everyone. God is a God of love. What God hates is sin. He doesn't hate individuals.
You are maligning God's character.
Rather, God was speaking about nations. It was the Edomites that persecuted the Israelites.
God hates nations that persecute His people. God does not hate individuals. Or Jesus would not have died for them.
My statement stands. God does NOT hate individuals.
You couldn't be more wrong. Combining your opinion with your name, it appears sovereign grace isn't so "gracey" towards some individuals.
Christ died for everyone. God is a God of love. What God hates is sin. He doesn't hate individuals.
You are maligning God's character.
From http://www.freebiblecommentary.org/new_testament_studies/VOL08/VOL08D_01.html
"not only to believe in Him but also to suffer for His sake" These are two PRESENT INFINITIVES which specify what God has given believers in Christ. One relates to continuing faith and the other to continuing maturity. It is hard for believers in modern western culture to discuss suffering. In the NT it was often the norm of the Christian life.
This verse does not support your claim.
"not only to believe in Him but also to suffer for His sake" These are two PRESENT INFINITIVES which specify what God has given believers in Christ. One relates to continuing faith and the other to continuing maturity. It is hard for believers in modern western culture to discuss suffering. In the NT it was often the norm of the Christian life.
This verse does not support your claim.
That is ridiculous.
The "choice" that God made among them was that the Gentiles would hear the gospel by Peter's mouth.
The end words "and believe" refers to hearing so they could believe. iow, no one can believe the gospel until they hear it first.
That should be obvious to everyone.
You are not providing verses that support your claim.
The "choice" that God made among them was that the Gentiles would hear the gospel by Peter's mouth.
The end words "and believe" refers to hearing so they could believe. iow, no one can believe the gospel until they hear it first.
That should be obvious to everyone.
You are not providing verses that support your claim.
God made a choice of who would preach, and what would occur from the preaching to the Gentiles, that they should #1 Hear and #2 Believe.
Acts 15:7
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Acts 15:7
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.