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wattie

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Speaking in tongues a heavenly language?

Acts 2 its earthly, known languages. Not known previously by the speaker.. but known by the hearers.

When Paul speaks of speaking though I speak tongues of angels.. it is hyperbole.. exaggeration to make a point.
 

Wansvic

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Speaking in tongues a heavenly language?

Acts 2 its earthly, known languages. Not known previously by the speaker.. but known by the hearers.

When Paul speaks of speaking though I speak tongues of angels.. it is hyperbole.. exaggeration to make a point.
Paul words:
"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1 Cor 14:2
 

ResidentAlien

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So Max Lucado now says he prays in tongues and we're supposed to be impressed? How many books has this guy had published? Let's see, here's a list:

On the Anvil, Tyndale House, 1985
No Wonder They Call Him the Savior, Multnomah Press, 1986
God Came Near, Multnomah Press, 1987
Six Hours One Friday, Multnomah Press, 1989
The Applause of Heaven, Word, Inc., 1990
In the Eye of the Storm, Word, Inc., 1991
And the Angels Were Silent, Multnomah Press, 1992
+Just in Case You Ever Wonder, Tommy Nelson, Inc., 1992; updated 2019
+Tell Me the Story, Crossway, 1992
He Still Moves Stones, Word, 1993
+Tell Me the Secrets, Crossway, 1993
When God Whispers Your Name, Word, 1994
+The Children of the King, Crossway, 1994
+The Crippled Lamb, TommyNelson, 1994
A Gentle Thunder, Word, 1995
+The Song of the King, Crossway, 1995
In the Grip of Grace, Word, 1996
General Editor, The Inspirational Study Bible, 1995
*Walking With the Savior, Tyndale House, 1996
*God’s Inspirational Promises, Word, 1996
*The Glory of Christmas, Word, 1996
+Alabaster’s Song, TommyNelson, 1996
+You Are Special, Crossway, 1997
Cosmic Christmas, Word, 1997
The Great House of God, Word, 1997
*The Greatest Moments, Word, 1997
Just Like Jesus, Word, 1998
*Let the Journey Begin, Word, 1998
*The Cross, Multnomah, 1998
+Jacob’s Gift, TommyNelson, 1998
The Christmas Child, Word, 1998 (Formerly The Christmas Cross)
*The Gift for All People, Multnomah, 1998
+Because I Love You, Crossway, 1999
When Christ Comes, Word, 1999
+Just the Way You Are, Crossway, 1999
*Grace for the Moment, J. Countryman, 2000
+All You Ever Need, Crossway, 2000
He Chose the Nails, Word, 2000
*In the Footsteps of Jesus, Tyndale, 2000
+Small Gifts in God’s Hands, TommyNelson, 2000
Shaped By God (Formerly On The Anvil), Tyndale, 2001
+With You All the Way, Crossway, 2001
Traveling Light, W Publishing Group, 2001
+You Are Mine, Crossway, 2001
*Safe in the Shepherd’s Arms, J. Countryman, 2001
*America Looks Up, W Publishing Group, 2001
*Traveling Light Journal, W Publishing Group, 2001
*One Incredible Moment, J. Countryman, 2001
+He Chose You, Tommy Nelson, 2002
*Just For You, W Publishing Group, 2002
*Traveling Light for Mothers, W Publishing Group, 2002
+If I Only Had a Green Nose, Crossway, 2002
A Love Worth Giving, W Publishing Group, fall 2002
An Angel Story (Formerly Cosmic Christmas), W Publishing, 2002
+Best of All, Crossway, 2003
*God Thinks You’re Wonderful, J. Countryman, 2003
+Just Like Jesus for Teens, TommyNelson, 2003
+Hermie: A Common Caterpillar, Tommy Nelson, 2003
Next Door Savior, W Publishing Group, fall 2003
Come Thirsty, W Publishing Group, 2004
+A Hat For Ivan, Crossway, 2004
+Flo, The Lyin’ Fly, Tommy Nelson, 2004
It’s Not About Me, Integrity Publishers, 2004
*Everyday Blessings, J Countryman, 2004
+Punchinello and the Most Marvelous Gift, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Punchinello One of a Kind, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Webster The Scaredy Spider, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Lucia and the Razzly Dazzly Wemberry Pies, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+The 12 Bugs of Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+A Fruitcake Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+ The Way Home, A Princess Story, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+Stanley The Stink Bug, Tommy Nelson, 2006
Cure For The Common Life, W Publishing, fall 2005
*Turn, Multnomah Publishers, 2005
*God’s Mirror, Integrity Publishers, 2005
*God’s Promises For You, J Countryman, 2006 (Updated Edition)
+Your Special Gift, Crossway Books, 2006
*Grace For The Moment II, J Countryman, 2006
Facing Your Giants, W Publishing, 2006
+The Oak In The Acorn, W Publishing, 2006
The Christmas Candle, W Publishing, 2006
*For These Tough Times, Thomas Nelson, 2006
+Coming Home, Crossway Books, 2007
+Milo The Mantis Who Wouldn’t Pray, Tommy Nelson, 2007
+You! God’s Brand New Idea, Tommy Nelson, 2007
3:16 The Numbers of Hope, W Publishing, Fall 2007
Every Day Deserves A Chance, Thomas Nelson, 2007
+Buzby and The Grumble Bees, Tommy Nelson, 2007
*Cast of Characters, Thomas Nelson, 2008
*His Name Is Jesus, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Fearless, Thomas Nelson, 2009
+ Tallest of the Smalls, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Outlive Your Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
+One Hand Two Hands, Thomas Nelson, 2010
You Changed My Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*You Can Be Everything God Wants You to Be, Thomas Nelson, 2010
General Editor, Lucado Life Lesson Study Bible, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*This Is Love, Thomas Nelson, 2011
*Lived Loved, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Max on Life, Thomas Nelson, 2011
God’s Story, Your Story, Thomas Nelson, 2011 (retitled 2016)
*Lucado Inspirational Reader, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Great Day Every Day (previous title- Every Day Deserves a Chance) Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Cast of Character: Lost and Found, Thomas Nelson, 2012
Grace- Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Grace Happens Here, 2012
+The Boy and The Ocean, Crossway, 2012
*Who Is This Jesus, Worthy, 2012
You’ll Get Through This – Thomas Nelson, 2013
*God Will Carry You Through – Thomas Nelson, 2013
+Itsy Bitsy Christmas, Thomas Nelson, 2013
*On Calvary’s Hill- Thomas Nelson, 2013
Before Amen- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Miracle at Higher Grounds Café- Thomas Nelson, 2014
*The Lucado Inspirational Reader- Thomas Nelson, 2013
*Dad Time- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Glory Days- Thomas Nelson, 2015
*God is With You Every Day- Thomas Nelson, 2015
More to Your Story (previously titled, God’s Story, Your Story)- Thomas Nelson, 2016
Because of Bethlehem, 2016
Anxious for Nothing, 2017
*Trade Your Cares for Calm, 2017
+Scaredy Cat, 2017
Unshakable Hope, 2018
*Praying the Promises, 2018
+Unshakable Hope Promise Book for Students, 2018
+God Always Keeps His Promises (Unshakable Hope for Kids) 2018
How Happiness Happens, 2019
*Happy Today Journal, 2019
*Jesus, the God Who Knows Your Name, 2020 (includes some original content)
*Grace for the Family Devotional, 2020
Lucado Encouraging Word Bible, 2020 (updated notes & formatting)
You Are Never Alone, September 2020
*Begin Again, January 2021 (compilation includes some original content)
*God Will Help You, (gift book) January 2021
+ Where’d My Giggle Go? March 2021
*You Can Count on God 365 day devotional, 2021
You Were Made for This Moment, 2021
+Anxious for Nothing for Young Readers 2022
+You Can Count on God for kids 2022
*Start With Prayer 2022
Help is Here, September 2022

*Selected writings compiled from primary books (some compilations have some new content added)
+Children and youth books
 
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So Max Lucado now says he prays in tongues and we're supposed to be impressed? How many books has this guy had published? Let's see, here's a list:

On the Anvil, Tyndale House, 1985
No Wonder They Call Him the Savior, Multnomah Press, 1986
God Came Near, Multnomah Press, 1987
Six Hours One Friday, Multnomah Press, 1989
The Applause of Heaven, Word, Inc., 1990
In the Eye of the Storm, Word, Inc., 1991
And the Angels Were Silent, Multnomah Press, 1992
+Just in Case You Ever Wonder, Tommy Nelson, Inc., 1992; updated 2019
+Tell Me the Story, Crossway, 1992
He Still Moves Stones, Word, 1993
+Tell Me the Secrets, Crossway, 1993
When God Whispers Your Name, Word, 1994
+The Children of the King, Crossway, 1994
+The Crippled Lamb, TommyNelson, 1994
A Gentle Thunder, Word, 1995
+The Song of the King, Crossway, 1995
In the Grip of Grace, Word, 1996
General Editor, The Inspirational Study Bible, 1995
*Walking With the Savior, Tyndale House, 1996
*God’s Inspirational Promises, Word, 1996
*The Glory of Christmas, Word, 1996
+Alabaster’s Song, TommyNelson, 1996
+You Are Special, Crossway, 1997
Cosmic Christmas, Word, 1997
The Great House of God, Word, 1997
*The Greatest Moments, Word, 1997
Just Like Jesus, Word, 1998
*Let the Journey Begin, Word, 1998
*The Cross, Multnomah, 1998
+Jacob’s Gift, TommyNelson, 1998
The Christmas Child, Word, 1998 (Formerly The Christmas Cross)
*The Gift for All People, Multnomah, 1998
+Because I Love You, Crossway, 1999
When Christ Comes, Word, 1999
+Just the Way You Are, Crossway, 1999
*Grace for the Moment, J. Countryman, 2000
+All You Ever Need, Crossway, 2000
He Chose the Nails, Word, 2000
*In the Footsteps of Jesus, Tyndale, 2000
+Small Gifts in God’s Hands, TommyNelson, 2000
Shaped By God (Formerly On The Anvil), Tyndale, 2001
+With You All the Way, Crossway, 2001
Traveling Light, W Publishing Group, 2001
+You Are Mine, Crossway, 2001
*Safe in the Shepherd’s Arms, J. Countryman, 2001
*America Looks Up, W Publishing Group, 2001
*Traveling Light Journal, W Publishing Group, 2001
*One Incredible Moment, J. Countryman, 2001
+He Chose You, Tommy Nelson, 2002
*Just For You, W Publishing Group, 2002
*Traveling Light for Mothers, W Publishing Group, 2002
+If I Only Had a Green Nose, Crossway, 2002
A Love Worth Giving, W Publishing Group, fall 2002
An Angel Story (Formerly Cosmic Christmas), W Publishing, 2002
+Best of All, Crossway, 2003
*God Thinks You’re Wonderful, J. Countryman, 2003
+Just Like Jesus for Teens, TommyNelson, 2003
+Hermie: A Common Caterpillar, Tommy Nelson, 2003
Next Door Savior, W Publishing Group, fall 2003
Come Thirsty, W Publishing Group, 2004
+A Hat For Ivan, Crossway, 2004
+Flo, The Lyin’ Fly, Tommy Nelson, 2004
It’s Not About Me, Integrity Publishers, 2004
*Everyday Blessings, J Countryman, 2004
+Punchinello and the Most Marvelous Gift, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Punchinello One of a Kind, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Webster The Scaredy Spider, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Lucia and the Razzly Dazzly Wemberry Pies, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+The 12 Bugs of Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+A Fruitcake Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+ The Way Home, A Princess Story, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+Stanley The Stink Bug, Tommy Nelson, 2006
Cure For The Common Life, W Publishing, fall 2005
*Turn, Multnomah Publishers, 2005
*God’s Mirror, Integrity Publishers, 2005
*God’s Promises For You, J Countryman, 2006 (Updated Edition)
+Your Special Gift, Crossway Books, 2006
*Grace For The Moment II, J Countryman, 2006
Facing Your Giants, W Publishing, 2006
+The Oak In The Acorn, W Publishing, 2006
The Christmas Candle, W Publishing, 2006
*For These Tough Times, Thomas Nelson, 2006
+Coming Home, Crossway Books, 2007
+Milo The Mantis Who Wouldn’t Pray, Tommy Nelson, 2007
+You! God’s Brand New Idea, Tommy Nelson, 2007
3:16 The Numbers of Hope, W Publishing, Fall 2007
Every Day Deserves A Chance, Thomas Nelson, 2007
+Buzby and The Grumble Bees, Tommy Nelson, 2007
*Cast of Characters, Thomas Nelson, 2008
*His Name Is Jesus, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Fearless, Thomas Nelson, 2009
+ Tallest of the Smalls, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Outlive Your Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
+One Hand Two Hands, Thomas Nelson, 2010
You Changed My Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*You Can Be Everything God Wants You to Be, Thomas Nelson, 2010
General Editor, Lucado Life Lesson Study Bible, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*This Is Love, Thomas Nelson, 2011
*Lived Loved, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Max on Life, Thomas Nelson, 2011
God’s Story, Your Story, Thomas Nelson, 2011 (retitled 2016)
*Lucado Inspirational Reader, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Great Day Every Day (previous title- Every Day Deserves a Chance) Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Cast of Character: Lost and Found, Thomas Nelson, 2012
Grace- Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Grace Happens Here, 2012
+The Boy and The Ocean, Crossway, 2012
*Who Is This Jesus, Worthy, 2012
You’ll Get Through This – Thomas Nelson, 2013
*God Will Carry You Through – Thomas Nelson, 2013
+Itsy Bitsy Christmas, Thomas Nelson, 2013
*On Calvary’s Hill- Thomas Nelson, 2013
Before Amen- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Miracle at Higher Grounds Café- Thomas Nelson, 2014
*The Lucado Inspirational Reader- Thomas Nelson, 2013
*Dad Time- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Glory Days- Thomas Nelson, 2015
*God is With You Every Day- Thomas Nelson, 2015
More to Your Story (previously titled, God’s Story, Your Story)- Thomas Nelson, 2016
Because of Bethlehem, 2016
Anxious for Nothing, 2017
*Trade Your Cares for Calm, 2017
+Scaredy Cat, 2017
Unshakable Hope, 2018
*Praying the Promises, 2018
+Unshakable Hope Promise Book for Students, 2018
+God Always Keeps His Promises (Unshakable Hope for Kids) 2018
How Happiness Happens, 2019
*Happy Today Journal, 2019
*Jesus, the God Who Knows Your Name, 2020 (includes some original content)
*Grace for the Family Devotional, 2020
Lucado Encouraging Word Bible, 2020 (updated notes & formatting)
You Are Never Alone, September 2020
*Begin Again, January 2021 (compilation includes some original content)
*God Will Help You, (gift book) January 2021
+ Where’d My Giggle Go? March 2021
*You Can Count on God 365 day devotional, 2021
You Were Made for This Moment, 2021
+Anxious for Nothing for Young Readers 2022
+You Can Count on God for kids 2022
*Start With Prayer 2022
Help is Here, September 2022

*Selected writings compiled from primary books (some compilations have some new content added)
+Children and youth books
So John MacArthur condemns speaking in tongues and we're supposed to be impressed? How many books has he had published? (I won’t list them…)

Disclaimer: I have never heard of Max Lucado. Just pointing out your interesting logic.
 

DJT_47

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So Max Lucado now says he prays in tongues and we're supposed to be impressed? How many books has this guy had published? Let's see, here's a list:

On the Anvil, Tyndale House, 1985
No Wonder They Call Him the Savior, Multnomah Press, 1986
God Came Near, Multnomah Press, 1987
Six Hours One Friday, Multnomah Press, 1989
The Applause of Heaven, Word, Inc., 1990
In the Eye of the Storm, Word, Inc., 1991
And the Angels Were Silent, Multnomah Press, 1992
+Just in Case You Ever Wonder, Tommy Nelson, Inc., 1992; updated 2019
+Tell Me the Story, Crossway, 1992
He Still Moves Stones, Word, 1993
+Tell Me the Secrets, Crossway, 1993
When God Whispers Your Name, Word, 1994
+The Children of the King, Crossway, 1994
+The Crippled Lamb, TommyNelson, 1994
A Gentle Thunder, Word, 1995
+The Song of the King, Crossway, 1995
In the Grip of Grace, Word, 1996
General Editor, The Inspirational Study Bible, 1995
*Walking With the Savior, Tyndale House, 1996
*God’s Inspirational Promises, Word, 1996
*The Glory of Christmas, Word, 1996
+Alabaster’s Song, TommyNelson, 1996
+You Are Special, Crossway, 1997
Cosmic Christmas, Word, 1997
The Great House of God, Word, 1997
*The Greatest Moments, Word, 1997
Just Like Jesus, Word, 1998
*Let the Journey Begin, Word, 1998
*The Cross, Multnomah, 1998
+Jacob’s Gift, TommyNelson, 1998
The Christmas Child, Word, 1998 (Formerly The Christmas Cross)
*The Gift for All People, Multnomah, 1998
+Because I Love You, Crossway, 1999
When Christ Comes, Word, 1999
+Just the Way You Are, Crossway, 1999
*Grace for the Moment, J. Countryman, 2000
+All You Ever Need, Crossway, 2000
He Chose the Nails, Word, 2000
*In the Footsteps of Jesus, Tyndale, 2000
+Small Gifts in God’s Hands, TommyNelson, 2000
Shaped By God (Formerly On The Anvil), Tyndale, 2001
+With You All the Way, Crossway, 2001
Traveling Light, W Publishing Group, 2001
+You Are Mine, Crossway, 2001
*Safe in the Shepherd’s Arms, J. Countryman, 2001
*America Looks Up, W Publishing Group, 2001
*Traveling Light Journal, W Publishing Group, 2001
*One Incredible Moment, J. Countryman, 2001
+He Chose You, Tommy Nelson, 2002
*Just For You, W Publishing Group, 2002
*Traveling Light for Mothers, W Publishing Group, 2002
+If I Only Had a Green Nose, Crossway, 2002
A Love Worth Giving, W Publishing Group, fall 2002
An Angel Story (Formerly Cosmic Christmas), W Publishing, 2002
+Best of All, Crossway, 2003
*God Thinks You’re Wonderful, J. Countryman, 2003
+Just Like Jesus for Teens, TommyNelson, 2003
+Hermie: A Common Caterpillar, Tommy Nelson, 2003
Next Door Savior, W Publishing Group, fall 2003
Come Thirsty, W Publishing Group, 2004
+A Hat For Ivan, Crossway, 2004
+Flo, The Lyin’ Fly, Tommy Nelson, 2004
It’s Not About Me, Integrity Publishers, 2004
*Everyday Blessings, J Countryman, 2004
+Punchinello and the Most Marvelous Gift, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Punchinello One of a Kind, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Webster The Scaredy Spider, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Lucia and the Razzly Dazzly Wemberry Pies, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+The 12 Bugs of Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+A Fruitcake Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+ The Way Home, A Princess Story, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+Stanley The Stink Bug, Tommy Nelson, 2006
Cure For The Common Life, W Publishing, fall 2005
*Turn, Multnomah Publishers, 2005
*God’s Mirror, Integrity Publishers, 2005
*God’s Promises For You, J Countryman, 2006 (Updated Edition)
+Your Special Gift, Crossway Books, 2006
*Grace For The Moment II, J Countryman, 2006
Facing Your Giants, W Publishing, 2006
+The Oak In The Acorn, W Publishing, 2006
The Christmas Candle, W Publishing, 2006
*For These Tough Times, Thomas Nelson, 2006
+Coming Home, Crossway Books, 2007
+Milo The Mantis Who Wouldn’t Pray, Tommy Nelson, 2007
+You! God’s Brand New Idea, Tommy Nelson, 2007
3:16 The Numbers of Hope, W Publishing, Fall 2007
Every Day Deserves A Chance, Thomas Nelson, 2007
+Buzby and The Grumble Bees, Tommy Nelson, 2007
*Cast of Characters, Thomas Nelson, 2008
*His Name Is Jesus, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Fearless, Thomas Nelson, 2009
+ Tallest of the Smalls, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Outlive Your Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
+One Hand Two Hands, Thomas Nelson, 2010
You Changed My Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*You Can Be Everything God Wants You to Be, Thomas Nelson, 2010
General Editor, Lucado Life Lesson Study Bible, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*This Is Love, Thomas Nelson, 2011
*Lived Loved, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Max on Life, Thomas Nelson, 2011
God’s Story, Your Story, Thomas Nelson, 2011 (retitled 2016)
*Lucado Inspirational Reader, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Great Day Every Day (previous title- Every Day Deserves a Chance) Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Cast of Character: Lost and Found, Thomas Nelson, 2012
Grace- Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Grace Happens Here, 2012
+The Boy and The Ocean, Crossway, 2012
*Who Is This Jesus, Worthy, 2012
You’ll Get Through This – Thomas Nelson, 2013
*God Will Carry You Through – Thomas Nelson, 2013
+Itsy Bitsy Christmas, Thomas Nelson, 2013
*On Calvary’s Hill- Thomas Nelson, 2013
Before Amen- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Miracle at Higher Grounds Café- Thomas Nelson, 2014
*The Lucado Inspirational Reader- Thomas Nelson, 2013
*Dad Time- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Glory Days- Thomas Nelson, 2015
*God is With You Every Day- Thomas Nelson, 2015
More to Your Story (previously titled, God’s Story, Your Story)- Thomas Nelson, 2016
Because of Bethlehem, 2016
Anxious for Nothing, 2017
*Trade Your Cares for Calm, 2017
+Scaredy Cat, 2017
Unshakable Hope, 2018
*Praying the Promises, 2018
+Unshakable Hope Promise Book for Students, 2018
+God Always Keeps His Promises (Unshakable Hope for Kids) 2018
How Happiness Happens, 2019
*Happy Today Journal, 2019
*Jesus, the God Who Knows Your Name, 2020 (includes some original content)
*Grace for the Family Devotional, 2020
Lucado Encouraging Word Bible, 2020 (updated notes & formatting)
You Are Never Alone, September 2020
*Begin Again, January 2021 (compilation includes some original content)
*God Will Help You, (gift book) January 2021
+ Where’d My Giggle Go? March 2021
*You Can Count on God 365 day devotional, 2021
You Were Made for This Moment, 2021
+Anxious for Nothing for Young Readers 2022
+You Can Count on God for kids 2022
*Start With Prayer 2022
Help is Here, September 2022

*Selected writings compiled from primary books (some compilations have some new content added)
+Children and youth books
Yeah, I think he speaks in tongues for sure, the language of Babel, called babbling. And maybe a little gibberish too. Tongues, like the rest of the gifts listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10, that were of a miraculous nature, no longer exist nor needed as they were then.
 
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Paul words:
"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1 Cor 14:2
i always thought this was really interesting. in some examples we are told people could understand they were Speaking in their Language. it NEVER says they understood what was really being said, only that it was in their Language.

and then Paul clears it up that the Utterance from the Holy Spirit to Speak in Tongues is for God to understand.

to me, it is really Special that God looks at us, and says this person needs this but has never asked for it, then has the Spirit to give Utterance so when Tongues are Spoken God can understand and give what the person needs.
^
we have not because we ask not and sometimes God makes us ask Him through the Holy spirit to make sure we get it.

what an AMAZING God we serve!
 
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Yeah, I think he speaks in tongues for sure, the language of Babel, called babbling. And maybe a little gibberish too. Tongues, like the rest of the gifts listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10, that were of a miraculous nature, no longer exist nor needed as they were then.
nowhere does the Bible ever claim Tongues is Miraculous. what Baloney Doctrine created that Myth?
 

ResidentAlien

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So John MacArthur condemns speaking in tongues and we're supposed to be impressed? How many books has he had published? (I won’t list them…)
I don't know, I'm not a MacArthur fanboy. He's just another professional Christian clebrity.
 

Wansvic

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So Max Lucado now says he prays in tongues and we're supposed to be impressed? How many books has this guy had published? Let's see, here's a list:

On the Anvil, Tyndale House, 1985
No Wonder They Call Him the Savior, Multnomah Press, 1986
God Came Near, Multnomah Press, 1987
Six Hours One Friday, Multnomah Press, 1989
The Applause of Heaven, Word, Inc., 1990
In the Eye of the Storm, Word, Inc., 1991
And the Angels Were Silent, Multnomah Press, 1992
+Just in Case You Ever Wonder, Tommy Nelson, Inc., 1992; updated 2019
+Tell Me the Story, Crossway, 1992
He Still Moves Stones, Word, 1993
+Tell Me the Secrets, Crossway, 1993
When God Whispers Your Name, Word, 1994
+The Children of the King, Crossway, 1994
+The Crippled Lamb, TommyNelson, 1994
A Gentle Thunder, Word, 1995
+The Song of the King, Crossway, 1995
In the Grip of Grace, Word, 1996
General Editor, The Inspirational Study Bible, 1995
*Walking With the Savior, Tyndale House, 1996
*God’s Inspirational Promises, Word, 1996
*The Glory of Christmas, Word, 1996
+Alabaster’s Song, TommyNelson, 1996
+You Are Special, Crossway, 1997
Cosmic Christmas, Word, 1997
The Great House of God, Word, 1997
*The Greatest Moments, Word, 1997
Just Like Jesus, Word, 1998
*Let the Journey Begin, Word, 1998
*The Cross, Multnomah, 1998
+Jacob’s Gift, TommyNelson, 1998
The Christmas Child, Word, 1998 (Formerly The Christmas Cross)
*The Gift for All People, Multnomah, 1998
+Because I Love You, Crossway, 1999
When Christ Comes, Word, 1999
+Just the Way You Are, Crossway, 1999
*Grace for the Moment, J. Countryman, 2000
+All You Ever Need, Crossway, 2000
He Chose the Nails, Word, 2000
*In the Footsteps of Jesus, Tyndale, 2000
+Small Gifts in God’s Hands, TommyNelson, 2000
Shaped By God (Formerly On The Anvil), Tyndale, 2001
+With You All the Way, Crossway, 2001
Traveling Light, W Publishing Group, 2001
+You Are Mine, Crossway, 2001
*Safe in the Shepherd’s Arms, J. Countryman, 2001
*America Looks Up, W Publishing Group, 2001
*Traveling Light Journal, W Publishing Group, 2001
*One Incredible Moment, J. Countryman, 2001
+He Chose You, Tommy Nelson, 2002
*Just For You, W Publishing Group, 2002
*Traveling Light for Mothers, W Publishing Group, 2002
+If I Only Had a Green Nose, Crossway, 2002
A Love Worth Giving, W Publishing Group, fall 2002
An Angel Story (Formerly Cosmic Christmas), W Publishing, 2002
+Best of All, Crossway, 2003
*God Thinks You’re Wonderful, J. Countryman, 2003
+Just Like Jesus for Teens, TommyNelson, 2003
+Hermie: A Common Caterpillar, Tommy Nelson, 2003
Next Door Savior, W Publishing Group, fall 2003
Come Thirsty, W Publishing Group, 2004
+A Hat For Ivan, Crossway, 2004
+Flo, The Lyin’ Fly, Tommy Nelson, 2004
It’s Not About Me, Integrity Publishers, 2004
*Everyday Blessings, J Countryman, 2004
+Punchinello and the Most Marvelous Gift, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Punchinello One of a Kind, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Webster The Scaredy Spider, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+Lucia and the Razzly Dazzly Wemberry Pies, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+The 12 Bugs of Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2004
+A Fruitcake Christmas, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+ The Way Home, A Princess Story, Tommy Nelson, 2005
+Stanley The Stink Bug, Tommy Nelson, 2006
Cure For The Common Life, W Publishing, fall 2005
*Turn, Multnomah Publishers, 2005
*God’s Mirror, Integrity Publishers, 2005
*God’s Promises For You, J Countryman, 2006 (Updated Edition)
+Your Special Gift, Crossway Books, 2006
*Grace For The Moment II, J Countryman, 2006
Facing Your Giants, W Publishing, 2006
+The Oak In The Acorn, W Publishing, 2006
The Christmas Candle, W Publishing, 2006
*For These Tough Times, Thomas Nelson, 2006
+Coming Home, Crossway Books, 2007
+Milo The Mantis Who Wouldn’t Pray, Tommy Nelson, 2007
+You! God’s Brand New Idea, Tommy Nelson, 2007
3:16 The Numbers of Hope, W Publishing, Fall 2007
Every Day Deserves A Chance, Thomas Nelson, 2007
+Buzby and The Grumble Bees, Tommy Nelson, 2007
*Cast of Characters, Thomas Nelson, 2008
*His Name Is Jesus, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Fearless, Thomas Nelson, 2009
+ Tallest of the Smalls, Thomas Nelson, 2009
Outlive Your Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
+One Hand Two Hands, Thomas Nelson, 2010
You Changed My Life, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*You Can Be Everything God Wants You to Be, Thomas Nelson, 2010
General Editor, Lucado Life Lesson Study Bible, Thomas Nelson, 2010
*This Is Love, Thomas Nelson, 2011
*Lived Loved, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Max on Life, Thomas Nelson, 2011
God’s Story, Your Story, Thomas Nelson, 2011 (retitled 2016)
*Lucado Inspirational Reader, Thomas Nelson, 2011
Great Day Every Day (previous title- Every Day Deserves a Chance) Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Cast of Character: Lost and Found, Thomas Nelson, 2012
Grace- Thomas Nelson, 2012
*Grace Happens Here, 2012
+The Boy and The Ocean, Crossway, 2012
*Who Is This Jesus, Worthy, 2012
You’ll Get Through This – Thomas Nelson, 2013
*God Will Carry You Through – Thomas Nelson, 2013
+Itsy Bitsy Christmas, Thomas Nelson, 2013
*On Calvary’s Hill- Thomas Nelson, 2013
Before Amen- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Miracle at Higher Grounds Café- Thomas Nelson, 2014
*The Lucado Inspirational Reader- Thomas Nelson, 2013
*Dad Time- Thomas Nelson, 2014
Glory Days- Thomas Nelson, 2015
*God is With You Every Day- Thomas Nelson, 2015
More to Your Story (previously titled, God’s Story, Your Story)- Thomas Nelson, 2016
Because of Bethlehem, 2016
Anxious for Nothing, 2017
*Trade Your Cares for Calm, 2017
+Scaredy Cat, 2017
Unshakable Hope, 2018
*Praying the Promises, 2018
+Unshakable Hope Promise Book for Students, 2018
+God Always Keeps His Promises (Unshakable Hope for Kids) 2018
How Happiness Happens, 2019
*Happy Today Journal, 2019
*Jesus, the God Who Knows Your Name, 2020 (includes some original content)
*Grace for the Family Devotional, 2020
Lucado Encouraging Word Bible, 2020 (updated notes & formatting)
You Are Never Alone, September 2020
*Begin Again, January 2021 (compilation includes some original content)
*God Will Help You, (gift book) January 2021
+ Where’d My Giggle Go? March 2021
*You Can Count on God 365 day devotional, 2021
You Were Made for This Moment, 2021
+Anxious for Nothing for Young Readers 2022
+You Can Count on God for kids 2022
*Start With Prayer 2022
Help is Here, September 2022

*Selected writings compiled from primary books (some compilations have some new content added)
+Children and youth books
It's sad. Your first objection is how many books has the guy written. He can't be blamed for using the talent God created in him.

The point is God answers prayer. Those who seek will find. Remember with God all things are possible.
 

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The point is God answers prayer. Those who seek will find. Remember with God all things are possible.
Yes, God answers prayer; it's in a little book you may have heard of.

I neither listen to nor am I impressed by professional Christian celebrities. Maybe some people are but I have little use for them.
 

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i've only participated in 4 or 5 of these Threads about Speaking in Tongues. and each one i say the same thing, which this Pastor Max has now said, ask God for the Gift and be sincere about it and He will give it to you.
"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" Luke 11:13
 

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Yeah, I think he speaks in tongues for sure, the language of Babel, called babbling. And maybe a little gibberish too. Tongues, like the rest of the gifts listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10, that were of a miraculous nature, no longer exist nor needed as they were then.
"How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." Jude 18-21
 

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Yes, God answers prayer; it's in a little book you may have heard of.

I neither listen to nor am I impressed by professional Christian celebrities. Maybe some people are but I have little use for them.
I don't follow him myself. Someone shared the article and it made me think about how God is faithful to perform His word.
 
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Yes, God answers prayer; it's in a little book you may have heard of.

I neither listen to nor am I impressed by professional Christian celebrities. Maybe some people are but I have little use for them.
i'm going to rat myself out here. it's this time of year i watch the most TV. college football, NFL, playoff Baseball, NBA, Hockey, and Nascar Playoffs. i flip through the channels and sometimes will catch a preacher late night like Charles Stanley and sometimes catch his son Andy but when i flip through TBN-Day Star-Lesea- etc. the one who sometime catches my attention is Ron Carpenter [straight up good ole boy hillbilly] who left his mega Church in South or North Carolina and said God told him to build a Church near San Fran, California where those Left Winged juggernauts have no idea who God is and spend more time at pet stores looking for gerbils.

he don't hold back on them sissy boys either :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::LOL::LOL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 

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i'm going to rat myself out here. it's this time of year i watch the most TV. college football, NFL, playoff Baseball, NBA, Hockey, and Nascar Playoffs. i flip through the channels and sometimes will catch a preacher late night like Charles Stanley and sometimes catch his son Andy but when i flip through TBN-Day Star-Lesea- etc. the one who sometime catches my attention is Ron Carpenter [straight up good ole boy hillbilly] who left his mega Church in South or North Carolina and said God told him to build a Church near San Fran, California where those Left Winged juggernauts have no idea who God is and spend more time at pet stores looking for gerbils.

he don't hold back on them sissy boys either :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::LOL::LOL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
I've never heard of Ron Carpenter but if he has programs on TBN and Daystar he's a sellout. Between these two networks every imaginable heresy is represented. Anyone who helps them stay in business is a partaker in their heresy.