Whose Version of “Faith Alone” and “Scripture Alone”
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It's not tough to argue at all. Scripture itself, 1 Timothy, states clearly that the 'Church is the pillar and foundation of all truth.'k And, as you state, Sola Scriptura is a man made tradition.
It's not tough to argue at all!!!!!!! Scripture, the Bible, clearly tells us that 'The Church is the pillar and foundation of all truth.' (1 Timothy) And, as you make so perfectly clear, 'Sola Scriptura' is a man made doctrine/tradition.
Are you joking? Because it's really funny that you insist on Scripture Alone, then you ignore clear Scripture for the traditions of men instead. OXYMORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not tough to argue at all!!!!!!! Scripture, the Bible, clearly tells us that 'The Church is the pillar and foundation of all truth.' (1 Timothy) And, as you make so perfectly clear, 'Sola Scriptura' is a man made doctrine/tradition.
Are you joking? Because it's really funny that you insist on Scripture Alone, then you ignore clear Scripture for the traditions of men instead. OXYMORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As you, I see Scripture, the Bible both Old and New Testaments, as God's Word/Truth. We have full agreement on that. Where we disagree is 'Scripture Alone'. The Bible clearly tells u s that's not the case. When Jesus ascended He didn't leave a book, He left His Church, promised that He would be with it until the end of time, and that He would send the Holy Spirit to lead His Church to 'ALL TRUTH'..
And the canon of the New Testament didn't come in to being untii 300 years after Jesus ascended. So how could 'Scripture Alonej be true, when it was Jesus' Church that was spreading the Truth of Jesus' Gospel even when 99% of common people couldn't read or write? Do you really believe that Jesus left Christians without a source of His Truth for 300 years?????
And the canon of the New Testament didn't come in to being untii 300 years after Jesus ascended. So how could 'Scripture Alonej be true, when it was Jesus' Church that was spreading the Truth of Jesus' Gospel even when 99% of common people couldn't read or write? Do you really believe that Jesus left Christians without a source of His Truth for 300 years?????
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
your asking faith alone or scripture , but scripture builds faith. The scriptures are building blocks to shape faith by gods word
“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
Hebrews 11:3
if God said anything it’s true , that’s faith . The scripture is just a record of what he’s said
Romans 10:17 KJV
your asking faith alone or scripture , but scripture builds faith. The scriptures are building blocks to shape faith by gods word
“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
Hebrews 11:3
if God said anything it’s true , that’s faith . The scripture is just a record of what he’s said
You raise a great point and let me expand on it further. You can see by reading this message board that there are zillions of different definitions as to what true Faith is and just as many different interrpretations as to what different Sripture readings mean.
So, I ask, with so many different aand opposing opinions on Faith and Scripture , how do we determine who is right or wrong? Just who's Faith Alone and Scripture Alone interpretations are correct and who's are incorrect?
So, I ask, with so many different aand opposing opinions on Faith and Scripture , how do we determine who is right or wrong? Just who's Faith Alone and Scripture Alone interpretations are correct and who's are incorrect?
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It's not the book itself but the teaching it contains. The first Christians had Jesus' and the apostles' teaching from the very beginning.
Ephesians 2:19-22 says, "So then, you are no longer strangers and aliens, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, being built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit."
So we see the church would be nothing without the teachings of Christ, the apostles and the prophets.
I see where you're coming from though. You mean the Bible is the word of God and the truth, but that it's insufficient. Teachers of "new revelation" always say their teaching is in 100% agreement with the scriptures but I haven't found this to be the case. They always twist the scriptures and wander off into error of one kind or another and call it a word from the "Spirit."
That's not a solid foundation to stand on. Go ahead and stand on if you want, but I'll pass. There are already too many false teachers out there.
Ephesians 2:19-22 says, "So then, you are no longer strangers and aliens, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, being built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit."
So we see the church would be nothing without the teachings of Christ, the apostles and the prophets.
I see where you're coming from though. You mean the Bible is the word of God and the truth, but that it's insufficient. Teachers of "new revelation" always say their teaching is in 100% agreement with the scriptures but I haven't found this to be the case. They always twist the scriptures and wander off into error of one kind or another and call it a word from the "Spirit."
That's not a solid foundation to stand on. Go ahead and stand on if you want, but I'll pass. There are already too many false teachers out there.
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what are you talking about ? Gods word is binding your trying to seperate faith from Gods word thats not possible
if you hear what God said and believe it’s true that’s faith if you refuse to hear what God said it can’t be faith faith is in the word of we hear and believe the word faith is planted in us
are you going to explain “ the faith of Christ “ and how that’s not us having faith in Christ ?
if you hear what God said and believe it’s true that’s faith if you refuse to hear what God said it can’t be faith faith is in the word of we hear and believe the word faith is planted in us
are you going to explain “ the faith of Christ “ and how that’s not us having faith in Christ ?
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