5 Red Heifers, ritually pure, have been delivered

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ZNP

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If you have the foundation in place, if you don't need plumbing, electrical, or HVAC then the building can go up very quickly. They put up prefabricated buildings in a matter of days. If you have a well organized effort as you would expect from Israel and you had 1,000 people on the crew, this could go up incredibly fast.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I am almost certain that IoG has no affiliation with Hebrew Roots. I do know they teach that the present government of Israel is of Edom and that IoG are the true Israelites. Now that is hard to believe but I stay neutral as of yet. But, I vaguely think of verses that seem to indicate that mankind is blind to the truth. Seems there are verses that also refer to the eventual restoration of 'True Israel". And then there seem to be verses that mention fear of Israel of Jacob or something like that, God's people maybe. So where in the world do you see even the police fearful of patrolling? What we may call ghettoes. So what can it hurt to talk with IoG folks and get their viewpoint?
Sorry if I misunderstood. There are a lot of various groups that identify with what some call themselves Hebrew Roots or some variation of. When you said,

"They are an off shoot of Israel of God and they believe they are the descendants of the Israelites and are awaiting the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem and also waiting for the red Heifer..."

...just reminded me of a similar. The N.T. talks about the genealogy of Jesus, but stresses our own being of no importance. My HI. acquaintances made much of those, holy days and Jewish customs. A Bible study that I wanted to get into a Bible based church moved to OK city and got into a religion that taught that Jesus was a pagan name and they needed to focus on books written by their leader and O.T. I never thought that their faith was undermined so easily. Two plus years of solid teaching rejected. I'm not saying that you would. But I've seen good friends that make me wince at the thought of the Judaizers Paul warned about. Galatians 1.

Again my apologies if I misunderstood.
Take care my friend.
 

shittim

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If you have the foundation in place, if you don't need plumbing, electrical, or HVAC then the building can go up very quickly. They put up prefabricated buildings in a matter of days. If you have a well organized effort as you would expect from Israel and you had 1,000 people on the crew, this could go up incredibly fast.
I believe they have it, have well practiced assembling and sanctifying it very quickly.
 

shittim

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Jesus said ALL things are new in Him.
 
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Sorry if I misunderstood. There are a lot of various groups that identify with what some call themselves Hebrew Roots or some variation of. When you said,

"They are an off shoot of Israel of God and they believe they are the descendants of the Israelites and are awaiting the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem and also waiting for the red Heifer..."

...just reminded me of a similar. The N.T. talks about the genealogy of Jesus, but stresses our own being of no importance. My HI. acquaintances made much of those, holy days and Jewish customs. A Bible study that I wanted to get into a Bible based church moved to OK city and got into a religion that taught that Jesus was a pagan name and they needed to focus on books written by their leader and O.T. I never thought that their faith was undermined so easily. Two plus years of solid teaching rejected. I'm not saying that you would. But I've seen good friends that make me wince at the thought of the Judaizers Paul warned about. Galatians 1.

Again my apologies if I misunderstood.
Take care my friend.
No biggy H&H. We are back on the same page now. What I'm thinking is could it be that if 'the time of 2nd advent' nears that Jesus would be preparing some people to endure the tribulation like this IoG teacher is telling me that they are the ones that are preparing for just that according to Jer. 7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it. Brother Ozias is the person I got this from. He lives about 8 miles north of me but we only talk on the phone and maybe 6 times over the past 18 months. I initially was trying to figure out what Acts 15:15-19 was all about. It is based on Amos 9:11 ¶ In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: 12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. Maybe this is something about 'end time'????
 
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There will be no temple built by Israel that God will recognize.
They may build a building, offer sacrifices, and prayers, but God will not be their.
IF Israel does this foolish thing, it will be an abomination before God because it will once again be denying Jesus as their Messiah.
We all know what that brought upon Israel the first time. The temple, Jerusalem, and Israel was totally destroyed in 70 AD.
 

ZNP

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so you go back to the old and kill a cow sick just sick . .
Nope, what is sick is the way we slaughter animals today. At least in this way everyone fully appreciated the price the animal was paying so that they could live.

When I was in Taiwan you go to the market and ask for chicken they will pull out a live chicken, kill it, pluck it, and chop it up right in front of you. You appreciate that your decision to eat chicken costs that chicken its life.

Can you consider how offensive BLM and others are? You may have lost two or three relatives in the Civil war fighting against the South. Your family paid a steep price so that the slaves could be freed, but now they want you to pay them reparations as well? I can understand a plantation owner paying reparations, I can understand the Confederacy paying reparations, but you want this family that lost two or three family members to pay on top of the people who died? They never owned slaves, were never for it. This is what happens when we don't appreciate the price people have paid so that we could live.
 

Dirtman

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Evil wicked men seeking evil wicked goals. To lead a stray as many as possible.
 

ZNP

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There is no argument. Sacrificing animals is an affront to Christ.
Oh, I thought that judging others and thereby usurping Jesus' position as the judge was an affront to Christ.
 

Beckie

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Nope, what is sick is the way we slaughter animals today. At least in this way everyone fully appreciated the price the animal was paying so that they could live.

When I was in Taiwan you go to the market and ask for chicken they will pull out a live chicken, kill it, pluck it, and chop it up right in front of you. You appreciate that your decision to eat chicken costs that chicken its life.

Can you consider how offensive BLM and others are? You may have lost two or three relatives in the Civil war fighting against the South. Your family paid a steep price so that the slaves could be freed, but now they want you to pay them reparations as well? I can understand a plantation owner paying reparations, I can understand the Confederacy paying reparations, but you want this family that lost two or three family members to pay on top of the people who died? They never owned slaves, were never for it. This is what happens when we don't appreciate the price people have paid so that we could live.
This has zero to do with offering a blood sacrifice to your god
you're missing a lot about this.
You are missing the temple Jesus said He would build. Youvare hoping for a calf to shed her blood , you have chosen to over look the sacrifice of Christ. You want more as if there could be more then the Son of God.
 

ZNP

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This has zero to do with offering a blood sacrifice to your god
That is your opinion. My opinion is that I am to do all unto the glory of God.

You are missing the temple Jesus said He would build. Youvare hoping for a calf to shed her blood , you have chosen to over look the sacrifice of Christ. You want more as if there could be more then the Son of God.
No I'm not. You are making stuff up. I see prophecies being fulfilled about Gog and Magog, doesn't mean I don't also see the church. I see prophecies being fulfilled about the mark of the beast and the judgement on the Great Babylon, doesn't mean I don't see the church.

You are very judgemental. I am simply pointing out that prophecies are being fulfilled, God's word is being fulfilled, Jesus word that He spoke 2,000 years ago is being fulfilled and there is nothing Satan can do about it. Yes, it indicates that his time is short and sure he may get bent out of shape about it and start slandering the saints and accusing them of all sorts of things, but all of this is to the glory of God.
 

Dirtman

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Oh, I thought that judging others and thereby usurping Jesus' position as the judge was an affront to Christ.
You sound like the sodomites and isolators of this world. Of coarse we are to call sin, sin and wickedness, wicked. If not we would have to stop preaching against sin, then we would have to throw out the bulk of the new testament. The apostles wrote extensively against sin and against judaizers.
Sacrificing animals is no longer acceptable. Jesus is the final sacrifice. To sacrifice an animal is blasphemy against Christ.