Why do Christians tell you you shouldn't ask GOD for material things?

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JohnB

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I'm 68. still working to get by. I've had Christians who own a home, have nice car, nice retirement account so they don't have to work. But tell me I shouldn't be asking GOD for material things. I remind them, everything you have is from the hand of GOD. Yet somehow, my asking GOD for any material thing is wrong. I don't get it.
 

JohnB

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Where in the bible does it tell you not to ask GOD for material things? Especially if you're just getting by. I've told them GOD made Abraham and Solomon rich. He promised to make the nation of Israel rich.
 

JaumeJ

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Where in the bible does it tell you not to ask GOD for material things? Especially if you're just getting by. I've told them GOD made Abraham and Solomon rich. He promised to make the nation of Israel rich.
You demonstrate that you already know the response. Not forbidden, encouraged I believe.. I will ask also on your behalf. God bless you.
 

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Where in the bible does it tell you not to ask GOD for material things? Especially if you're just getting by. I've told them GOD made Abraham and Solomon rich. He promised to make the nation of Israel rich.
Unfortunately most on this forum isn't interested in "where it says in the Bible" 🤣
 
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I'm 68. still working to get by. I've had Christians who own a home, have nice car, nice retirement account so they don't have to work. But tell me I shouldn't be asking GOD for material things. I remind them, everything you have is from the hand of GOD. Yet somehow, my asking GOD for any material thing is wrong. I don't get it.
The love of money Is the root
of ALL
evil.
 

MsMediator

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I'm 68. still working to get by. I've had Christians who own a home, have nice car, nice retirement account so they don't have to work. But tell me I shouldn't be asking GOD for material things. I remind them, everything you have is from the hand of GOD. Yet somehow, my asking GOD for any material thing is wrong. I don't get it.
I do ask for material things. I think it is fine as long it is not excessive or greedy.
 

JohnB

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Unfortunately most on this forum isn't interested in "where it says in the Bible" 🤣
I agree many Christians and pastors are not really interested in what the bible says.
 

JohnB

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You demonstrate that you already know the response. Not forbidden, encouraged I believe.. I will ask also on your behalf. God bless you.
I agree we should ask, I just don't understand Christians telling you not to ask.
 

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Yet somehow, my asking GOD for any material thing is wrong.
Tell them to read Matthew 6:11 and stop being silly.

Give us this day our daily bread.

This would cover all material things including food.
 
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I'm 68. still working to get by. I've had Christians who own a home, have nice car, nice retirement account so they don't have to work. But tell me I shouldn't be asking GOD for material things. I remind them, everything you have is from the hand of GOD. Yet somehow, my asking GOD for any material thing is wrong. I don't get it.
I don't get why you would say that. Who told you that?
 

Magenta

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Tell them to read Matthew 6:11 and stop being silly.

Give us this day our daily bread.

This would cover all material things including food.
All material things, or all material needs?

The 11th step of AA says:

Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we
understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.



Matthew 6:31 plus 33
:)


She originally looked like this ^
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Jesus said,

"Ye have not because ye ask not," as He explained how much more loving His Father was than human natural father's. Matthew chapter 6

There are serious conditions to prayer.
One of them is not met by those pastors who teach this. You must be a child if God by faith in His only begotten Son. John 3

They like to virtue signal how their congratulations should not ever pray for themselves, but for others is not Scriptural. Do people pray wrongly though and simply ask for that which is to be consumed upon their own lusts? Of course and in that context we aren't to pray that way. Some of the wealthy TV preachers need to consider this after they humble themselves and get saved.

Jesus gave a model outline of HOW TO PRAY, mistakenly refered to as the" Lord's prayer."....again, by lost pastors.

"Give us this day our daily bread."

Did Jesus make a mistake?
No. He makes no mistakes and commits no sins.

The last potion of Matthew 7:9-11 brought me to tears of gratitude more than once. He tells us what our Father is like.


"Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?"
 

Magenta

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Jesus said,

"Ye have not because ye ask not," as He explained how much more loving His Father was than human natural father's. Matthew chapter 6&7.

There are serious conditions to prayer.
One of them is not met by those pastors who teach this. You must be a child if God by faith in His only begotten Son. John 3

They like to virtue signal how their congratulations should not ever pray for themselves, but for others is not Scriptural. Do people pray wrongly though and simply ask for that which is to be consumed upon their own lusts? Of course and in that context we aren't to pray that way. Some of the wealthy TV preachers need to consider this after they humble themselves and get saved.

Jesus gave a model outline of HOW TO PRAY, mistakenly refered to as the" Lord's prayer."....again, by lost pastors.

"Give us this day our daily bread."

Did Jesus make a mistake?
No. He makes no mistakes and commits no sins.

The last potion of Matthew 6 and beginning of 7 brought me to tears of gratitude more than once. He tells us what our Father is like.

Lord's Prayer:)
 

HealthAndHappiness

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All material things, or all material needs?

The 11th step of AA says:

Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we
understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.



Matthew 6:31 plus 33
:)


She originally looked like this ^
We were on the same page and posted at the same time. I decided to go back and add a passage from Matthew 7 while you posted Jesus in Matthew 6. Lol!
☕😄👍📖
 

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All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.” ~~ Jeff Spicoli
 

JohnB

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I don't get why you would say that. Who told you that?
I've had Christian friends tell me that. I'm on Social Security, doing part time work to make ends meet and been told I shouldn't ask GOD for material things. At the same time, GOD has blessed them with a nice income and home.
 

JohnB

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Tell them to read Matthew 6:11 and stop being silly.

Give us this day our daily bread.

This would cover all material things including food.
I should have told them "Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for My sake and for the gospel will fail to receive a hundredfold in the present age— houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and fields, along with persecutions— and in the age to come, eternal life. Mark 10:30
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Thank you Magenta!
That's an appropriate way to frame such a beautiful passage.

The reason I mentioned that our Lord did not pray that is because He is not a debtor or sinner as some have misunderstood.
You already know that, but for sake of unbelievers who may read, so they know he was teaching rather than in need of forgiveness. Growing up, I was taught that Jesus prayed this.