Once saved always saved?

[ForestGreenCook]

The biblical term is eternal soul salvation. You need to learn that.

You need to refer to a concordance, and find out that salvation means "a deliverance".

 

[ForestGreenCook]

OK, deliverance from WHAT? Specfically.

Deliverance from being ignorant of God's righteousness, just as Rom 10:3 says.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Rom 10:1 - Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved.

Some of your confusion is stemming from using the wrong version of the bible. The version I use says "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for "ISRAEL" (Jacob's changed name, Gen 32:28, Jacob, representing God's elect, Rom 9:11) even calling them brethren. that they may be delivered (saved) from their ignorance of the righteousness of God. (verse 3)

Rom 10:2, For I bear them record that they "have a zeal of God"signifying that they have been born again,

When are you going to admit that salvation is "a deliverance" which would create in you a better understanding of the scriptures, and do away with your thinking that the unregenerate person can understand the things of the Spirit.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

V.7 - The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.

The mind of the unregenerate person is governed by the flesh. 1 Cor 2:11, For what man knoweth the things of man, save the spirit of man, which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. If the unregenerate person does not have the Spirit of God dwelling in him, he cannot know the things of the Spirit, as verse 14 indicates.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

I have followed your posts from pg 23 back to here because I was not sure just what you were getting at. This is way off bass God is long suffering wishing non to parish and that all should come to repentance. Jesus gave up His life for every soul from the beginning till today 9/17/2022 8:28pm CT and on till the day He returns. God wishes all not some not a select few but all to come to repentance. Will they no but do they all have the free will and the opportunity YES.

Respectfully, I base all of my comments on scripture reference, believing that scripture proves themselves by harmonizing together.

You have quoted 2 Pet 3:9. In order to keep this scripture in context, we have tom go back to 2 Pet 1:1 to see who Peter is talking to, and it is to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God.

Peter is giving them a warning about repenting when they have committed a sin, instructing them that they would lose their fellowship with God, temporary, until they repent. Persh = death = separation.

Peter even includes himself by using the word "us-ward". God will not fellowship sin, he even turned his back on Jesus during the three hours of darkness on the cross when he bore the sins of those that God gave him.

 

[BroTan]

FreeGrace2 said:
Do you have a verse that plainly says that willful sinning results in loss of salvation? Of course you don't. It doesn't exist.

The phrase "no more sacrifice for sins" is also noted previously.

17 Then he adds: “Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more.”
18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

When Jesus went to the cross, He paid for all sins. Therefore, sacrifice for sin is NO LONGER NECESSARY.

So, v.26 is a repeat of v.18. The writer was making the point: with willful sin, animal sacrifice won't work. However, brace yourself for God's divine discipline (judgment and fiery indignation).

Are you aware of the biblical teaching about God's divine discipline towards His own children?

Jesus did say that, but that's talking about your past sins, not your future sins, you still living. Now Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2 :36-38). And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past.

I see you using Jesus over Paul writing, but then when I show when Jesus says if you love me keep my Commandments, then it will be a problem with that. Jesus says (Matt. 7:21-23) (v.21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven. You mean you must do more than call on the name of the Lord to enter into the kingdom of heaven? (Which will be set up on this earth)? (v.22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? (v.23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Now this is not the harlot, the thief, or the murder, these are religious people; some had the power to cast out devils. And what did they put before the Lord? Their works! It’s obvious that their iniquity overrode their wonderful works. But they put their works on the table before the Lord, that’s what you are going to be judged by, your works!

 

[FreeGrace2]

All scriptures must harmonize, without ignoring any of them. Scripture proves scripture.

Exactly. The verses I quote are clear enough that they are what the less clear verses must harmonize with.

And that's the problem. You don't do that.

 

[XavierJesusLovesIndia]

Hi xavier,

How does the treasury of merit (treasury of the church) , fit into all of what you are saying. How do you make use of those bonus mrits of other saints, like Mary's good works, how does her good works help the merits of others?

Hi Phil. Sorry for the delayed response. So as for treasury of merits, it comes under Our Lord telling us to store Treasures in Heaven. As for individual Merits/Rewards for Good Works done Post-Justification, Catholics believe it is strictly personal, and cannot be transferred to others; according to "every man shall receive his own reward, according to his own labour" (1 Cor 3:8). But as it is said in that same chapter, not everyone receives the reward immediately; some receive it, because their works survived the fire. Others will have to go through the fire, suffer loss, forfeit rewards and be "saved so as by fire. "13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

This fire has traditionally been understood as purgatory; that's how St. Augustine for e.g. interprets it, and for remaining venial sins. It's why we believe those whose sanctification is not complete on earth will have to complete it there. I know that's controversial, and probably the majority here disagree. That's ok. But I'm just trying to explain the way we see it.

What can benefit or help others are prayers said for them, which Christ accepts and can release them from Prison earlier. In 1 Pet 3-19-20 and 1 Pet 4:6, the Apostle says Christ went in Spirit after His Death and preached to some spirits in Prison. Would He have preached uselessly to those hopelessly lost? I don't think so. Rather, He preached to those who had some possibility of salvation, which means that prison of spirits was a temporal prison, purgatory, not an eternal prison, hell. In 2 Tim 1:16-18, Apostle Paul prays for Onesiphorus, his departed believing friend: "18 The Lord grant to him that he may find mercy from the Lord in that Day—and you know very well how many ways he ministered to me at Ephesus."

And the more merits/rewards you have earned in your Christian Life, the more efficacious/powerful your prayers are for others, according to James 5:16: "The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much."

We believe prayers for the departed can hasten their entrance into their eternal reward, and speed up the process of their sanctification, but they cannot increase the reward. Hope that answers your question. God Bless.

Free Grace, will respond to you subsequently. God Bless.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
Your theology is just weird. And not found anywhere in the Bible.

The scriptures are hidden as a mystery to some of God's adopted children, you are, evidently one of them.

Basically, what you are saying is that your "interpretation" is superior to those who disagree with you and quote verses that are crystal clear.

Hogwash. You may think you are an elitist, but you are not.

2 Cor 1;13,14
13 For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that, 14 as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Your opinions do not align with Scripture.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
Your posts seem to negate any need for belief in the Savior.

How about that! You agree with me. However, the new birth FOLLOWS the trust issue of the gospel.

Cart before the horse!

Unlike yourself, I can prove what I claim.

Eph 2:5 equates "being made alive" with "being saved". They are synonymous terms.

Eph 2:8 says we are saved by grace THROUGH FAITH. iow, the faith is present before salvation and regeneration.

The unregenerate person, who is totally carnal minded, and can not understand the things of the Spirit

No need to keep repeating your erroneous talking points. The gospel is a trust issue, not a spiritual issue.

thinking them to be foolishness. He cannot understand spiritual things until he has been quickened to the new spiritual life, with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

How come you CANNOT find ANY verse in the Bible that says what you keep claiming??

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
I GAVE you the verse that actually SAYS that. So don't say "as you say". The BIBLE says it.

Yes, the bible does say that he saves (delivers) those who believe

Good of you to finally admit what the Bible says.

but that deliverance is received here in this world.

There goes your weird and unbiblical ideas. Your claims remain unprovable. This is just an excuse to push your nonbiblical agenda.

This is the very reason that you are trying to make the unregenerate people to be able to save (deliver) themselves by believing in spiritual things[/QUOT]
Oh, stop it. No one saves themselves, and I've already told you that. So when you keep bringing up your FALSE claims about what I believe, you are LYING. So stop it.

Belief, trust, faith isn't a work. It earns nothing. God saved by grace (Eph 2;8). But you seem unable to connect these easy dots.

which will not harmonize with scriptures.

It is your theology that cannot harmonize with any Scripture.

There is an eternal deliverance that Jesus achieved for all of those that his Father gave him,

That would be believers.

and there are many deliverances (salvations) received for his adopted children as they sojourn here in this world.

And many of those the Father gave Him are NOT delivered while sojourning here.

You need to read Hebrews, all of it.

Specifically Hebrews 11, which clearly shows how many of God's children "didn't receive" deliverance.

32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets,
33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions,
34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.
35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection.
36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.
37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—
38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,

You are in the same situation, as those in Jesus days on earth, thinking the doctrine of Jesus is, in your words, "deluded" .

Apparently you aren't reading very carefully. What I SAID was that your views are deluded. Certainly not what Jesus said.

In fact, Jesus' words refute your weird theology.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
Nope. None of the verses are about loss of salvation.

You are getting confused, I am in agreement with you in the fact that those that Jesus died for on the cross will never lose their eternal salvation. OSAS

I'm not confused at all. You are, by taking clear verses about eternal soul salvation and twisting into something they don't say.

And Heb 11 proves MY point, not yours.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
This is not the way one's sins are blotted out. They are blotted out (paid for) by Christ's death on the cross. But you obviously don't believe that.

Sorry to butt in, but if you believe that Jesus died for all of mankind, and that "all of mankind's sins are blotted out, then why do you think that all of mankind will not go to heaven?

Like ALL 5 point calvinists, you are simply unable to grasp the fact that salvation is for all who trust in the promise of salvation through the work of Jesus Christ on the cross.

You erroneously think that His death saves, when there is NO such verse to support your claim.

This thought is contradictory to scripture. Your theory does not harmonize with the scriptures.

Actually, it doesn't harmonize with your deluded ideas.

If my thought is really contradictory to Scripture, that would mean there is at least 1 verse that actually says what you claim,

So, quote it. Prove your claims.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
The biblical term is eternal soul salvation. You need to learn that.

You need to refer to a concordance, and find out that salvation means "a deliverance".

And eternal soul salvation means eternal soul deliverance from the LOF.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
OK, deliverance from WHAT? Specfically.

Deliverance from being ignorant of God's righteousness, just as Rom 10:3 says.

This is a pathetic answer. You completely ignored the context.

Rom 10-
1 Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved.
2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge.
3 Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.
4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

In v.1 Paul was concerned for their souls, not being physically delivered from sojourning on earth.

In v.3 Paul explained that the Jews made up their own rules by claiming the Law would save them if they obeyed it.
In v.4, the "righteousness" that is for everyone who BELIEVES is eternal soul salvation, which you keep denying.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Some of your confusion is stemming from using the wrong version of the bible.

You are just full of excuses today, aren't you. Nonsense. Go to biblehub.com and see ALL of the English translations and report back.

The version I use says "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for "ISRAEL" (Jacob's changed name, Gen 32:28, Jacob, representing God's elect, Rom 9:11) even calling them brethren. that they may be delivered (saved) from their ignorance of the righteousness of God. (verse 3)

Who says your "version" is accurate. I just quoted it.

Rom 10:2, For I bear them record that they "have a zeal of God"signifying that they have been born again, [/QUOTE]
Then YOUR version is wrong. Get rid of it and find an accurate one.

When are you going to admit that salvation is "a deliverance" which would create in you a better understanding of the scriptures

That's never what any verse means. Ever.

btw, there are just as many verses that link belief with eternal life as with salvation. That alone destroys your theories.

and do away with your thinking that the unregenerate person can understand the things of the Spirit.

Since the gospel promise is a trust issue, rather than a spiritual issue, your comments are in error.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Jesus did say that, but that's talking about your past sins, not your future sins

The discussion is in Heb 10, NOT 2 Peter. There is NO mention of 'past sins' in Heb 10.

Get back to me when you get that all figured out. I won't discuss with such a confused person.

 

[XavierJesusLovesIndia]

FreeGrace2 said:
Unfortunately, you still misunderstand Scripture. What you believe is a "works salvation" system, even if you don't recognize that.

I don't recognize that. Your posts clearly imply that works are required for salvation. Maybe you should proofread your posts before you post, to make sure you are being clear.

I DO believe that rewards are earned by works.

That's good. We agree (1) God disciplines those believers who neglect sanctification/commit sins/do bad works. and (2) God rewards those believers who pursue sanctification/avoid sins/do good works.

Now, can I have your exegesis of 1 Cor 3:13-15 which I cited above: "13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." What is Paul talking about by "fire"?

You just shot yourself in the foot by adding perseverance. That is an effort on our part. So you DO believe in salvation by works, whether you realize that or not.

Nope: "And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. To Him be glory forever and ever. Amen!" (2 Tim 4:18) Being preserved in justifying grace until the end is the Work of God, just like faith itself (cf. Jn 6:29) and thus is a Pure Grace, unearned/unmerited. What we have to do is ask God to grant that grace to us daily, as we do in the Lord's Prayer, when we ask to not be led into temptation, which gift, if it is granted, will preserve us in God's Grace. If we neglect to pray, it may not be granted, and then we will fall into temptation, sin gravely and fall away.

You should have just stayed with "salvation = justification". And you would have been accurate.

Salvation is NOT equal to Justification Alone. You believe that, but Heb 10 which I quoted and many passages negate it.

The Bible speaks of 2 different types of sanctification. One is being "declared righteous" on the basis of faith in Christ. The other is spiritual growth, which involves human effort.

Nothing to disagree with here.

Do you need help understanding John 10:28? He sure did say that. He said, "I give them (believers) eternal life, and they shall never perish". It couldn't be any more clear, but apparently you aren't understanding His simple words.

This applies to those who receive the Gift of Perseverance. They do not fall away, because Christ preserves them; that's what it means that they are not plucked out of His Hand; those who fall away are not in His hand and don't have that Gift.

And that is ALL these verses are saying. God's divine discipline including physical death.

No, Heb 10 is saying in the OT, there was physical death; but now in the NT, if we despise the Blood of Christ, which sanctified us, we have to fear eternal death, which disproves OSAS once and for all.

Did you answer the example from the Gospel I gave earlier; I don't think so. Here it is again.

Mat 18:27: "27Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt."

Mat 18:34: "34And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him."

Truly Justified, but not Saved. How much clearer can it be that the Two are Distinct? 1 single counterexample disproves it.

totally misunderstanding of the verse.

Explain why. The verse says those who fall away draw back to perdition. It's crystal clear and it negates your theory

Then they are just as confused as you are.

Disagree. Even Calvinist OSASers know unrepentant atheists, apostates, satanists etc who once said a 30 sec sinner's prayer, are not saved, and they are right about that. These atheists can be justified and saved if they come back to faith in Christ, confess and repent of their apostasy etc, according to 1 Jn 1: "8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us."

Everyone who has been given eternal life, which is WHEN a person believes in Christ, shall never perish.

Wrong. Those sheep who (1) follow Him, (2) "know" Him, which means continual communion/fellowship with Him, and (3) listen to His Voice (which means, obey His commands; He even said those who do not obey His commands do not love Him; can those be saved who do not love Jesus Christ? Please. and those who obey His commands abide in Him and He in them) are granted both Justification and Perseverance; that is what it means that no one snatches them out of His hand, they have the gift to endure or persevere to the end, which means they never fall away. Those who do those things are saved. In 2 Pet 1:5-11, the Apostle gives us similar advice and says: "If you do these things, you will never stumble"

God Bless.

 

[Thewatchman]

FreeGrace2 said:
Go ahead and prove your opinion here with clear Scripture that obviously communicates what you opine.

You also obviously are oblivious to what Jesus taught about eternal life.

From John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40,47 believers possess eternal life.
From John 10:28, recipients (believers) of eternal life shall never perish.

Too bad you either didn't know what Jesus taught, or you are aware of these verses but have chosen to reject them as truth.

Since Jesus paid the debt for all sin, no sin puts anyone into the LOF. For those who didn't receive the gift of eternal life (their choice), they have NO OTHER PLACE for them to go.

Still unable to address the verses I cite and have been quoting, I see.

And I understand WHY you won't. You can't refute clear Scripture.

So please save your false teaching for someone else.

Most people know what John 3:15&16 say but I want to back up to the start of chapter 3.

1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”

Nicodemus was a Pharisee not a priest but a religious ruler meaning if there was a question about the religious law people would go to them to answer it. He was one of the big wigs at the temple downtown. He comes to Jesus by night so that no one would see him. He lays a line of praise on Jesus. Jesus brushes it off and says.



3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God



Jesus blows off the high praise and complements and get right to the main point. You must be born again.



4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.



Ol Nicodemus did not understand what He was talking about; some Christians today do not understand this. Born of the water, born of woman, born of the womb, born of flesh. The first birth not water baptism. Then we grow up and hit the age of accountability. When is that? It is different for everyone and some never reach it. When you do you have to make a decision team Satan(flesh) team Jesus(spirit). Then Jesus looks at him and says “ Marvel not” do not be surprised that you must be born again. Jesus then explains how the spirit works He compares it to the wind you can not see it but you feel it, you see the works of it when it gently blows the leaves; or when it gets going and blows down trees ect.

Strong's Greek 4151: Wind, breath, spirit.



9Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Part 2 to follow

 

[wattie]

2nd Peter

17These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

These first few verses are the false teachers Rapture, once saved always saved, flesh bodies coming up out of the graces after 100's- 1,000's of years and going into the millennial kingdom ECT. Verse 20&21 20 For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

This clearly says they came to know the Lord they escaped pollution of the world; How through the knowledge of The Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! Then what happens they are again intangled and overcome and it is worse for them than if they had never gotton saved.

Look at what there end is Verse 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

That does not sound like once saved always saved. I hope it does not to you or anyone else that reads this. My prayer is that you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Galatians 5

16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

There is a war going on inside us and it will continue until we die or Jesus returns and we are gathered back to him. This war may include so or all of verses 19,20 and part of 21. How does 21 end; They that do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22-24 they that produce good fruit against such there is no law.

Two last verses Revelation 3:5&6

5He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

If you overcome you have your name in the book of life and you get clothed in white raiment and your name will not be blotted out of the book of life. OOOOOO NO that means your name can be blotted out. How does Jesus close it out “6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

Once again I pray you and everyone else that reads this has an ear to hear

God bless you

Inheritance in this.. is about rewards.. those who have built on the fath.. been faithful have greater rewards than those who were saved and then got in the cares of this world. Why? Because scripture does not contradict itself.. compare Galatians 5 with John 3:16, 3:36 and 5:24. And also in Corinthians - building on your faith with good and silver.. it is refined in the fire and remains.. building on your faith with straw, hay stubble.. it is burned away.. but still they are saved.