Many are called but few are chosen

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You still spreading false doctrine and unless God gives you repentance to acknowledge the truth, we will see you at the Judgment friend. Right now you oppose the truth.
It is their purpose.
Now they implicate,blaspheme, the Apostle Peter as the one making their argument.

Consider this if you will.

Just as we know the carnal natural man cannot understand the words,leading, of God, and especially when God's adversary is lord here and it is he and his voice to whom the natural carnal worldly mind is attuned, is it rather than aggravating to encounter someone like TW and his collaborators to instead see it as a blessing?

Their labors, hostility, mockery, false teaching that insists the carnal natural mind can overcome its nature and understand what God declared it cannot, serves to prove scripture ever more. Does it not?

Is that not then God? Showing us the enemy is still active to mislead the saints?
And give false leading to natural minds that will believe them. And in so doing those of carnal natural mind live the example what those who teach against the security of eternal salvation will use as to also argue eternal irrevocable salvation is also falsity.

When they point to those natural minded who profess Christ yet do not change their behaviors at all. Thinking because they say they accept Christ they're going to heaven no matter what!

And why are those people like that? Because they're operating as natural minded carnal dead in their sins people worshiping that false god of ego. That tells them in that condition they can commune with and understand the Holy things of God. After God's word tells us they cannot.

What we,you, witness in that one and their collaborators here is what was identified and forewarned of in Deuteronomy 11:16.
'' Take care lest your heart be deceived, and you turn aside and serve other gods and worship them...''

Because the God of scripture never said what they claim is true. That the natural mind is able to overcome God and choose to understand the things of the spirit.

That isn't the God of the Bible.
That's the natural minds god of ego calling God a liar and his words a lie.

Colossians 2:8 Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.

It's beautiful! To witness scripture being brought to life in this contemporary world on this platform.

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You may be quoting Peter but you not Peter, and you teach a false doctrine. In fact,you dont believe the person you quote.
Peter says, God, before the Foundations of the Earth were created, already knew who would Believe in Him. for this, they are called Chosen.

nowhere did Peter say God made these people Believe in Him. YOU SAID THAT WHICH IS A LIE! so you are calling Peter a LIAR by you claiming God made me Believe in Him! more than that, You are calling the Holy Spirit a Liar who spoke through Peter. so ultimately, you are calling GOD a LIAR!
 

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Peter says, God, before the Foundations of the Earth were created, already knew who would Believe in Him. for this, they are called Chosen.

nowhere did Peter say God made these people Believe in Him. YOU SAID THAT WHICH IS A LIE! so you are calling Peter a LIAR by you claiming God made me Believe in Him! more than that, You are calling the Holy Spirit a Liar who spoke through Peter. so ultimately, you are calling GOD a LIAR!
You may be quoting Peter but you not Peter, and you teach a false doctrine.
 
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You may be quoting Peter but you not Peter, and you teach a false doctrine.
according to you and 2 others in this discussion. but according to hundreds of theologians and scholars i am speaking the truth. i trust them over anything you will ever have to say knowing how you twist the Bible for your own philosophy.
 
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I can't wait to stand before God because I know i only speak the Truth of His Holy Word!
 

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Peter says, God, before the Foundations of the Earth were created, already knew who would Believe in Him. for this, they are called Chosen.

nowhere did Peter say God made these people Believe in Him. YOU SAID THAT WHICH IS A LIE! so you are calling Peter a LIAR by you claiming God made me Believe in Him! more than that, You are calling the Holy Spirit a Liar who spoke through Peter. so ultimately, you are calling GOD a LIAR!
Peter said this? Where? About Jesus in 1 Peter 1?
 
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from Scholars and Theologians: this is a quick search: THIS IS NOT MY OPINION BUT THE OPINION OF OTHERS!

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that is insane 518,000 people wrote against calvinism!
 
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like i said, that ^ [[((is NOT MY OPINION))]] but the opinion of 518,000 people.
 

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according to you and 2 others in this discussion. but according to hundreds of theologians and scholars i am speaking the truth. i trust them over anything you will ever have to say knowing how you twist the Bible for your own philosophy.
Its you who twist the scripture.
 

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Is there really a conflict though? Wouldn't those numbered like sands on the seashore be the sheep that could hear his voice?

Are those in Hebrews 11 Jews? Or Gentiles? Abraham being Gentile, and had offered his only son to sacrifice at God's behest. And he complied as a matter of trust and faith in the Father.

Making him the Father of all nations, as was his wife mother of all nations.

''Abraham being primogenitor of the 12 tribes of Israel through his son, Isaac.''


Heaven is going to look like a beach. 💕🕊️😊​
If I am barking up the wrong tree, let me know. Abraham was the father of many nations through his son Isaac. These many nations are not indicative of all nations of the world, but of all nations of the elect, who are the "many called". All of the elect are his sheep, and can hear his voice, but only "the few" that are chosen have been revealed the knowledge of Christ's finished work on the cross.
 

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It is their purpose.
Now they implicate,blaspheme, the Apostle Peter as the one making their argument.

Consider this if you will.

Just as we know the carnal natural man cannot understand the words,leading, of God, and especially when God's adversary is lord here and it is he and his voice to whom the natural carnal worldly mind is attuned, is it rather than aggravating to encounter someone like TW and his collaborators to instead see it as a blessing?

Their labors, hostility, mockery, false teaching that insists the carnal natural mind can overcome its nature and understand what God declared it cannot, serves to prove scripture ever more. Does it not?

Is that not then God? Showing us the enemy is still active to mislead the saints?
And give false leading to natural minds that will believe them. And in so doing those of carnal natural mind live the example what those who teach against the security of eternal salvation will use as to also argue eternal irrevocable salvation is also falsity.

When they point to those natural minded who profess Christ yet do not change their behaviors at all. Thinking because they say they accept Christ they're going to heaven no matter what!

And why are those people like that? Because they're operating as natural minded carnal dead in their sins people worshiping that false god of ego. That tells them in that condition they can commune with and understand the Holy things of God. After God's word tells us they cannot.

What we,you, witness in that one and their collaborators here is what was identified and forewarned of in Deuteronomy 11:16.
'' Take care lest your heart be deceived, and you turn aside and serve other gods and worship them...''

Because the God of scripture never said what they claim is true. That the natural mind is able to overcome God and choose to understand the things of the spirit.

That isn't the God of the Bible.
That's the natural minds god of ego calling God a liar and his words a lie.

Colossians 2:8 Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.

It's beautiful! To witness scripture being brought to life in this contemporary world on this platform.

💕🕊️😀
Consider the verse below.

Romans 11:22
See then the kindness and severity of God: to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; for otherwise you too will be cut off.

Israel was severed from the tree of life, grafted out, hardened to the truth.

The Gentiles were grafted into the tree of life but the Gentiles can also be severed, grafted out again.

I fail to see, that the Gentiles have been predestined to salvation by God's sovereign will. When the Gentiles can fall back into unbelief the same as the Jews.

I believe that Paul's warning in Romans 11 is a very clear warning.

if you continue in His kindness; for otherwise you too will be cut off.
 

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and Peter explains this in a very clear and understandable viewpoint that CHOSEN means those who would Believe in God. you act like God made or forced a select people to believe in Him. when all along there were people going to always Believe in Him because THEY WANTED TO ON THEIR OWN ACCOUNT ONCE THEY WERE INTRODUCED TO GOD.

Are you ignoring Psalms 53:2-3?


and Peter explains this in a very clear and understandable viewpoint that CHOSEN means those who would Believe in God. you act like God made or forced a select people to believe in Him. when all along there were people going to always Believe in Him because THEY WANTED TO ON THEIR OWN ACCOUNT ONCE THEY WERE INTRODUCED TO GOD.

Would you be so kind, as to give me the scripture where Peter explains this?
 
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Its you who twist the scripture.
The enemy thinks our numbers mean we who are in Christ are wrong.
13 stood against Orthodox Judaism and Rome.

Over 1 billion stand in the light of the cross in a world of more than 70 billion. And while not all those 1 billion are on the righteous road it still speaks to the truth of this world and The Word.

Many are called.
Few are the chosen.

The other mistake the enemy makes is thinking because others don't speak up, they must not be here.
While it is the Net and anonymity insured falsity is possible behind individual pseudonyms. The many could be one. Or two.

The other mistake, 518 thousand times, is that which thinks God's surname is Calvin. 😳🤣
 
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