I'm still trying to figure out what being a Christian has to do with the legality of owning a firearm.
Why would it be illegal?
Why would it be illegal?
Should Christians be allowed to own a gun legally?
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lol, I think the whole issue is that in the OP they ask if a Christian should be able to own a gun, Then the OP shifted to "protect themselves", as if in their mindset that's all guns do. Now as a Christian that's not the first thing that comes to my mind to do with a gun, I think "hunting,run coons off from the chicken coop?",,,lol,,,maybe the people who's first instinct is to equate "gun=kill humans" have exposed themselves and should immediately be put on the list the FBI keeps to determine who should be able to buy a gun?
A person doesn't necessarily need a knife, until they do. I use one daily, whether for slicing fresh ginger for my morning coffee or cutting open a package, wild game, steaks a letter. Never have I used one to harm another person, however I've been attacked by those intent on killing me on 4 occasions as I think about in now. Think about the question. Should someone else have the power, authority and right to determine whether or not I can be allowed to own a blade for whatever reason? City, state and federal guvts have in the United States as our current and previous generations allowed it to occur. They have dictated what size blade, where they are allowed to be used, whether it is spring assisted, and none of it has anything to do with what God deems righteous laws. The fact is that Jesus told the disciples to buy a sword.My question is very simple. Is it okay for Christians to own a gun legally for protection purposes? I would love to hear what other people has to say in regards to that.
I personally believe that we dont need a gun, but at the same time, arent everyone entitled to protect themselves? Now, you see where the confusion is with me lol
Do you think the blade as a chosen tool can be related to and applied to other tools?
What is your take on the subject?
Did any of this make sense Salvation child?
Regards
lol, as I got older and not able to work in jobs requiring physical stamina I worked at about 17 convenience stores(old man behind the counter some of you loved,lol) Anyway Ive been robbed five or six times and this is what happened.... At the first I was caught smooth off guard and afterwards the more I think it over I think that they planned to tun on me when I least expected it. I admit that the first thing I did was scream like a woman, Just instinct I guess but thinking back they almost all just froze in their tracks when I did it. Afterwards I always was glad that I didn't slip down and fall or something because as I remember tunnel-vision hit me almost instantly. Now as it was ending it always made me realize how weak I felt being caught off guard and how small it made me feel and it really got me riled up and so I would just stop and quit running and spin around and look for them but they were always,always running away to keep the cops from getting there before they left,, there really lucky they ran away before I got my wits back about myself right?
For a Christian it's more important to protect others....to save their lives.
The hero in the Indiana mall did just that.
The terrorist came out of the bathroom brandishing two assault rifles (one in each hand) and handgun in his belt and began to fire. The hero pulled his gun instinctually and put 8 of ten rounds into the terrorist in ten seconds.
He saved dozens of lives that day.
The terrorist had over a hundred rounds...the hero 10.
And that's what handguns are for....equalizing force.
The potential to harm others is always prevalent. Destruction is easy. Our lives are fragile and easily removed by others.
It's difficult to build a life. Friends, family, and have others depend upon us...being an integral part of a larger group. And someone can knock over our sandcastle lives in a second. Unless God says otherwise.
The recent tale in Indiana mall is only one of hundreds of stories just like that. Where one armed person shot and killed or stopped someone who thought that they were the only one with a gun.
The robbery rate for convenience stores is dropping drastically because of debit cards. Fewer people are using cash. $20 in change won't buy much of anything anymore. It doesn't work at liquor stores either....again same reason.
The only place with sufficient change is banks if they got a recent delivery. And they are getting smaller deliveries all the time.
Peter had a sword. Also, the laws of the land we are to obey. It is the shedding of innocent blood God hated. Defending your family is what one is to do. There has not been a world war won that Christians did not fight in.My question is very simple. Is it okay for Christians to own a gun legally for protection purposes? I would love to hear what other people has to say in regards to that.
I personally believe that we dont need a gun, but at the same time, arent everyone entitled to protect themselves? Now, you see where the confusion is with me lol
Nope, took the bus it only runs every hour. Was late and missed stuff needed for a test today.
I'm sorry to hear that.
I've been in your shoes before.
Just a thought that may or may not help.
The average teacher, if a student approached humbly to explain the transportation issue and asked for a copy of the review notes for the test, they would give them a copy if the student showed themselves responsible the previous weeks..
Othereise they might suggest getting the notes from a classmate. The fact that you approach them and ask politely goes a long way and should be in your favor. I don't see how it would hurt.
Thanks, but I sent a message to a classmate the day I was running late and the teacher has given a week to prepare for the test. I decided to go that day from where everyone else was at and catch up later.
My question is very simple. Is it okay for Christians to own a gun legally for protection purposes? I would love to hear what other people has to say in regards to that.
I personally believe that we dont need a gun, but at the same time, arent everyone entitled to protect themselves? Now, you see where the confusion is with me lol
My reply to this questions is as follows, ask yourself what will you do with the gun. A gun is a deadly weapon and the use of this weapon is a conscious choice. Therefore, let's say you come upon a confrontation and resort to shooting another human being out of fear or impulse. You have just took the life of another human being. How does a person live with or justify taking the life of another person. I personally would not want to be put in that situation. Also, having a gun usually makes a person more aggressive because they have that back up tool at their disposal. killing is not a Christian quality that God approves of in his worshipers. I would not want to put myself in that situation. Once a person has been shot and killed you cannot reverse it. "Thy shalt not kill"
That would not necessarily be premeditated. Whereas, picking up a gun you have to have an intention to shoot another person. A hammer may knock a person out, but it may not kill them. The intention could be different than picking up a loaded gun.
If you take the life of another person, you have to accept the consequences of your action. "Thy shalt not kill". I would rather not be on the side of breaking a law of God's. Guns kill no way around it. Will God judge you innocent in this case?
"thou shalt not kill" is misinterpreted, it is better interpreted as "thou shalt not murder", until the day when swords are converted to plowshares and spears to pruning hooks, it is clear we are allowed armament to protect and save lives from the adversaries minions who come to steal, kill and destroy.
Your thread title is confusing:My question is very simple. Is it okay for Christians to own a gun legally for protection purposes? I would love to hear what other people has to say in regards to that.
I personally believe that we dont need a gun, but at the same time, arent everyone entitled to protect themselves? Now, you see where the confusion is with me lol
"Should Christians be allowed to own a gun legally?"
Let's examine that:
"Should Christians be allowed..." Allowed by whom? By the government? The government should not be restricting Christians at all, period.
"to own a gun"... The Bible says nothing of guns, and it clearly gives people the right to hunt and to defend themselves. Guns are merely tools, no different fundamentally from chisels, hammers, and scissors.
"legally"... I presume you mean "under the law of the land" though I may be wrong. Yes, the law of the land should permit people to own firearms, unless they have demonstrated that they are incapable of doing so safely and lawfully (convicted felons. mentally incompetent persons), or have not demonstrated sufficient capacity to do so (children, new immigrants).
That's not necessarily my first impulse(thought) though because I usually keep my ,shotgun hanging in the rack in my trucks back windshield and the shovel,crowbar, hammers and stuff in the truck bed(at night I take the shotgun inside and clean it but mostly to keep someone from busting out the glass and taking it). Anyway though if the booger man try's to pounce on me and I'm standing beside my truck bed then hammer,shovel,crowbar comes to my mind but if it's at night and I already took out the shotgun and took it inside, well it's all that's handy(my wife wont let me bring my shovel and stuff into the living room at night)... And if I'm sitting at a red light and the booger man comes it's faster to get the shotgun down than it is to kill the truck and jump out and find the stuff in the truck bed.
Those are all appropriate tools for the jobs they are good for.
I saw a man yesterday carrying his tool on his tool belt through the grocery store. We had a similar conversation as two other polite folks joined the conversation. I said that I wished more would so it would look normal in our culture as it should.
Yes indeed, we should be comfortable seeing a toll that can ensure public safety.
Although I would not open carry, as I would prefer the element of surprise should a dangerous situation occur, open carry is a deterrent to crime.
Although I would not open carry, as I would prefer the element of surprise should a dangerous situation occur, open carry is a deterrent to crime.