Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161
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Neurological problems increasing in the victims of the jab
https://www.bitchute.com/video/93OKGgwDkYjH/
I believe we will be seeing this evidenced in the posts of those who have taken the poison.
Of course naysayers will deny this too.


UK Reporting:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011511
Rare neurological conditions may occur after Covid vaccination, but the risk is far higher in people who catch Covid, new research suggests.
Doctors say the landmark UK study provides further reassurance that being vaccinated offers the best protection for overall health.
The investigators examined the NHS records of 32 million adults in England to assess any rare adverse events linked to Covid vaccines.
The study appears in Nature Medicine.
The scientists, from the Universities of Oxford and Edinburgh, compared the levels of neurological conditions seen within a month of having a first Covid jab, to those seen within a month of a positive coronavirus test.
One thing they looked for was a rare condition called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) known to be associated with certain infectious diseases and linked to some other vaccines.
GBS causes inflammation of the nerves and can lead to numbness, weakness and pain, usually in the feet, hands and limbs and can spread to the chest and face.
It can be treated and most people will eventually make a full recovery, but it can be very serious and even life-threatening for some.
In the study, following the first dose of vaccine, there were:
  • 38 extra cases (compared to the baseline risk of getting the condition) of GBS for every 10 million adults having the Oxford-Astrazeneca vaccine
  • 60 extra cases of haemorrhagic stroke (a bleed in the brain) for every 10 million adults having the Pfizer vaccine
Meanwhile for people who had a coronavirus infection, there were approximately:
  • 145 extra GBS cases per 10 million with a positive test
  • 123 extra brain inflammation disorder cases like encephalitis meningitis and myelitis per 10 million people
  • 163 extra cases of myasthenia-like disorders (immune conditions affecting the nerves and muscles) per 10 million people
There was also an increased risk of bleeds on the brain in the first seven days after a positive Covid test, but risks returned to a normal, baseline level within a month.
Researchers repeated their study on a smaller population of vaccinated adults in Scotland and found the same link with GBS and the Astrazeneca vaccine. They did not see the same pattern of increased risks with the Pfizer jab.
They say it remains unclear why these links appear and suggest more studies are needed to understand this.
 
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Administrations are struggling to work out a solution. Yes, politicians and pharmas have other agendas than to merely help the populace, such as how can they stay in positions of influence and maintain their wealth, and Satan makes use of those bad traits to cloud and manipulate their decisions. But for anyone to rule the vaccines out as being nefarious or useless, as some seem to be claiming here, is ostensibly wrong and will put the health of the many at risk.

If any of Israel didn't look at the snake wrapped around the pole whilst they were under threat that time in the desert, they died. That's a metaphor for us that we ought give due consideration to in our process of making judgements and passing sentences on vaccines.
'They', are not vaccines. There is no accountability.

God had Moses create the snake out of brass. The Government is just brass. Sounding brass.

You did not create a metaphor, but if you had, you might have concluded that God healed and not the actual inanimate snake.
 

shittim

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Dr. Phony Fauci wanted gain of function so he could inject the whole world with spike proteins, and the best minds in the world obliged.
Those led by the Spirit have not.
 
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'They', are not vaccines. There is no accountability.

God had Moses create the snake out of brass. The Government is just brass. Sounding brass.

You did not create a metaphor, but if you had, you might have concluded that God healed and not the actual inanimate snake.
True. The pharmaceutical companies behind all these troubles are immune from prosecution or responsibility.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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You're argument doesn't make sense. In my opinion you are damaging your own credibility, and heaping sin upon sin onto yourself. But when your own blood falls upon you which it will unless you change course, you won't be able to blame anyone else but yourself. Stop listening to yourself, because you are deceiving you.
What blood? We aren't conning anyone into taking biosynthetic jabs here. Just sharing Truth, which you obviously ignore. If anything, being willfully ignorant of truth is a sin. All you do is discredit, even though there is credibility in what we share. Nothing here to see... besides what the World goes along with. Are you even thinking for yourself? Or letting the World doing the thinking for you? Echoing what they say versus questioning to see if they are telling the Truth.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Man, on what planet do you come from? The statistical data and thousands of peer reviewed articles do prove that the vaccine is dangerous, does nor provide lasting protection ( 2-3 months max) and negative long term effects and deathts are piling, spiking up. the very best scientists and nobel prize winners do say this!! wake up!

Stop trashing people around like they are dumb. it is your duty to dig a bit further than the ""official"" main stream media disinformation propaganda they are lying to people. the vaccine industry is a trillion dollar machine for the elite who control the MSM.

If people mention this here is to try to save them from harm. Now the real danger is that these corrupt people are vaccinating children that are not at risk for covid. also the 3rd, 4th and other planned doses will kill a lot of people.

Chill man.
I do a lot of analysis, and I make value judgements based on logic and reason. I am chilled.

It's true, I've thrown a few Liverpool kisses around in my posts to try and jolt reason into your hard heads, but that's obviously bounced off. But I'm not continuing my discourse with you to try and change your mind, but in hope that those viewing this discussion might see an alternative to the extreme and illogical view you and your colleagues are propagating.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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'They', are not vaccines. There is no accountability.

God had Moses create the snake out of brass. The Government is just brass. Sounding brass.

You did not create a metaphor, but if you had, you might have concluded that God healed and not the actual inanimate snake.
You're missing my point. God gave the Israelites a means to be protected and healed, He gives us a means through medical treatments and vaccines to be protected and healed in our time.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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yeah, i ignored him for a while unfortunately yesterday i have unignored him , he still makes me mad, he is now back on my ignore list....it will save him from a lot of red x.

Cheers!

JF
Thank you.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Man, on what planet do you come from? The statistical data and thousands of peer reviewed articles do prove that the vaccine is dangerous, does nor provide lasting protection ( 2-3 months max) and negative long term effects and deathts are piling, spiking up. the very best scientists and nobel prize winners do say this!! wake up!

Stop trashing people around like they are dumb. it is your duty to dig a bit further than the ""official"" main stream media disinformation propaganda they are lying to people. the vaccine industry is a trillion dollar machine for the elite who control the MSM.

If people mention this here is to try to save them from harm. Now the real danger is that these corrupt people are vaccinating children that are not at risk for covid. also the 3rd, 4th and other planned doses will kill a lot of people.

Chill man.
.... and I've never said that vaccines are not harmful to some. But to claim they are more harmful overall than the virus itself, is just patently stupid.
 

gb9

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You're missing my point. God gave the Israelites a means to be protected and healed, He gives us a means through medical treatments and vaccines to be protected and healed in our time.

^ except this current covid and current vaccines were man-made and God had nothing to do with them.

not to mention, the vax does not protect nor heal.
 
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Administrations are struggling to work out a solution. Yes, politicians and pharmas have other agendas than to merely help the populace, such as how can they stay in positions of influence and maintain their wealth, and Satan makes use of those bad traits to cloud and manipulate their decisions. But for anyone to rule the vaccines out as being nefarious or useless, as some seem to be claiming here, is ostensibly wrong and will put the health of the many at risk.

If any of Israel didn't look at the snake wrapped around the pole whilst they were under threat that time in the desert, they died. That's a metaphor for us that we ought give due consideration to in our process of making judgements and passing sentences on vaccines.
In my view it is a non-sequitor to bring the healing serpent for the Hebrews in Exodus into comparison in any way to the COVID-19 genitic mutation injection.

First and foremost the serpent on the pole held aloft before God's people so to heal them was of God.

The injection people across the globe are submitting to is not.

The COVID-19 injection is an mRNA ''vaccine''. And studies show this injection impacts the human liver, one of the largest filter of cleansing organs, in the body. And there's more.

''...Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro. Huh7 cells were exposed to BNT162b2, and quantitative PCR was performed on RNA extracted from the cells. We detected high levels of BNT162b2 in Huh7 cells and changes in gene expression of long interspersed nuclear element-1 (LINE-1), which is an endogenous reverse transcriptase. Immunohistochemistry using antibody binding to LINE-1 open reading frame-1 RNA-binding protein (ORFp1) on Huh7 cells treated with BNT162b2 indicated increased nucleus distribution of LINE-1. PCR on genomic DNA of Huh7 cells exposed to BNT162b2 amplified the DNA sequence unique to BNT162b2. Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution.''
https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

For the lay reader like myself, the above clinical trial finding in easy to understand English:
Pfizer mRNA vaccine goes into liver and changes into DNA, Swedish study finds
March 2, 2022

''A new Swedish study published in MDPI found that the Pfizer vaccine goes into liver cells and converts to DNA, challenging claims so far that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. It’s the first time that researchers have shown in vitro – or inside a petri dish – how an mRNA vaccine is converted into DNA on a human liver cell line...''
[MORE at link:https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrn...ver-and-changes-into-dna-swedish-study-finds/



DNA is the unique blueprint of the individual. And contains the, so to speak, 'family tree's of their ancestors.

DNA is what makes for our hair color,eye color,race,etc...
DNA shapes our very existence in the flesh.

Genetic [DNA] disorders occur by a change in the DNA sequence away from the normal sequence.

I think research will show that conversion to DNA in the liver then let's that DNA to alter the individuals normal DNA sequence 🧬 causing genetic disorder. Specifically as is mapped in ones natural DNA sequence, ones unique familial predispositions to diseases and infirmities.
['Cancer ''runs'' in my family's, ''Parkinsons runs in my family's, etc...]

Which I think is why we hear about 'vaccine and boosters patients later being diagnosed with ailments they never had before.

The medical profession can then say the vaccine has never killed anyone.

Because the individual's unique genetic disorder, made manifest by that liver produced ''new'' DNA, did.
 
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.... and I've never said that vaccines are not harmful to some. But to claim they are more harmful overall than the virus itself, is just patently stupid.
You're patently ignorant of the ''vaccine'' you defend in such ways.
Your remarks that are offered to counter opinion or even published reports of the side effects of the 'vaccine' are never supported by credible evidence. You merely push the shot.

Is your actual first name Armand?

I ask because I know someone who works for Pfeizer.

One of their objectives at work is to manage lay people employed remotely to troll all social media platforms including discussion boards. Thereby committing to disruption of discussions regarding COVID-19 itself or the 'vaccine' and by spreading disinformation and disparaging personal opinion and/or testimonies of 'vaccine' ill effects.


Actual vaccines build the immune system by causing its T-Helper Cells to build a defense.
What they don't do is travel to the liver's cells and convert into DNA.

Because until COVID-19, mRNA vaccine was studied for decades but was never released into the public domain.[That we know of. Some people I know think mRNA mutation experiments was what was behind the viral weapon HIV/AIDS. Thus far that's just a theory on their part.😟].

The about me Legacy but great in talking about virus packing in labs.
 
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I do a lot of analysis, and I make value judgements based on logic and reason. I am chilled.

It's true, I've thrown a few Liverpool kisses around in my posts to try and jolt reason into your hard heads, but that's obviously bounced off. But I'm not continuing my discourse with you to try and change your mind, but in hope that those viewing this discussion might see an alternative to the extreme and illogical view you and your colleagues are propagating.
Contrary to your assertion, that means you're trying to change minds.
 

ZNP

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^ except this current covid and current vaccines were man-made and God had nothing to do with them.

not to mention, the vax does not protect nor heal.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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In my view it is a non-sequitor to bring the healing serpent for the Hebrews in Exodus into comparison in any way to the COVID-19 genitic mutation injection.

First and foremost the serpent on the pole held aloft before God's people so to heal them was of God.

The injection people across the globe are submitting to is not.

The COVID-19 injection is an mRNA ''vaccine''. And studies show this injection impacts the human liver, one of the largest filter of cleansing organs, in the body. And there's more.

''...Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro. Huh7 cells were exposed to BNT162b2, and quantitative PCR was performed on RNA extracted from the cells. We detected high levels of BNT162b2 in Huh7 cells and changes in gene expression of long interspersed nuclear element-1 (LINE-1), which is an endogenous reverse transcriptase. Immunohistochemistry using antibody binding to LINE-1 open reading frame-1 RNA-binding protein (ORFp1) on Huh7 cells treated with BNT162b2 indicated increased nucleus distribution of LINE-1. PCR on genomic DNA of Huh7 cells exposed to BNT162b2 amplified the DNA sequence unique to BNT162b2. Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution.''
https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

For the lay reader like myself, the above clinical trial finding in easy to understand English:
Pfizer mRNA vaccine goes into liver and changes into DNA, Swedish study finds
March 2, 2022

''A new Swedish study published in MDPI found that the Pfizer vaccine goes into liver cells and converts to DNA, challenging claims so far that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. It’s the first time that researchers have shown in vitro – or inside a petri dish – how an mRNA vaccine is converted into DNA on a human liver cell line...''
[MORE at link:https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrn...ver-and-changes-into-dna-swedish-study-finds/



DNA is the unique blueprint of the individual. And contains the, so to speak, 'family tree's of their ancestors.

DNA is what makes for our hair color,eye color,race,etc...
DNA shapes our very existence in the flesh.

Genetic [DNA] disorders occur by a change in the DNA sequence away from the normal sequence.

I think research will show that conversion to DNA in the liver then let's that DNA to alter the individuals normal DNA sequence 🧬 causing genetic disorder. Specifically as is mapped in ones natural DNA sequence, ones unique familial predispositions to diseases and infirmities.
['Cancer ''runs'' in my family's, ''Parkinsons runs in my family's, etc...]

Which I think is why we hear about 'vaccine and boosters patients later being diagnosed with ailments they never had before.

The medical profession can then say the vaccine has never killed anyone.

Because the individual's unique genetic disorder, made manifest by that liver produced ''new'' DNA, did.
You've obviously missed a colleagues post that said of a subsequent study that concluded the findings of Swedish study are doubtful, cannot be proved, and the jury is therefore still out on any impact on DNA. The vaccines use one strand of the DNA, and it's impossible for that to double back and change the DNA it was extracted from...or so says the current biological science.

Your conclusions are false, you are peddling misinformation.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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You're patently ignorant of the ''vaccine'' you defend in such ways.
Your remarks that are offered to counter opinion or even published reports of the side effects of the 'vaccine' are never supported by credible evidence. You merely push the shot.

Is your actual first name Armand?

I ask because I know someone who works for Pfeizer.

One of their objectives at work is to manage lay people employed remotely to troll all social media platforms including discussion boards. Thereby committing to disruption of discussions regarding COVID-19 itself or the 'vaccine' and by spreading disinformation and disparaging personal opinion and/or testimonies of 'vaccine' ill effects.


Actual vaccines build the immune system by causing its T-Helper Cells to build a defense.
What they don't do is travel to the liver's cells and convert into DNA.

Because until COVID-19, mRNA vaccine was studied for decades but was never released into the public domain.[That we know of. Some people I know think mRNA mutation experiments was what was behind the viral weapon HIV/AIDS. Thus far that's just a theory on their part.😟].

The about me Legacy but great in talking about virus packing in labs.
Refer to my other post that says the credibility of the Swedish study has been questioned by a subsequent study. And the other suggestion you make, that mutation of mRNA produced HIV/AIDS, is just so rediculous it doesn't warrant comment. God created HIV/AIDS, to warn people that their behaviours were playing with fire.
 
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Refer to my other post that says the credibility of the Swedish study has been questioned by a subsequent study.
Did they provide a link?

And the other suggestion you make, that mutation of mRNA produced HIV/AIDS, is just so rediculous it doesn't warrant comment. God created HIV/AIDS, to warn people that their behaviours were playing with fire.
But you did comment.
 

ZNP

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You've obviously missed a colleagues post that said of a subsequent study that concluded the findings of Swedish study are doubtful, cannot be proved, and the jury is therefore still out on any impact on DNA. The vaccines use one strand of the DNA, and it's impossible for that to double back and change the DNA it was extracted from...or so says the current biological science.

Your conclusions are false, you are peddling misinformation.
Peddling? The origin of this word is to sell items, a traveling salesman, however it has a relatively new meaning to peddle ideas. But the sense of the word is to do that for money like the Main Stream Media or some other propaganda outlet.

Are you insinuating that Bluesproverb is posting on this site for money? Is there anyone with a financial interest in convincing people that the vaccine is dangerous? Or are you projecting? Are you being paid to peddle your opinions? I can certainly see a profit motive in trying to convince people the vaccine is safe, go ahead and take it and by all means stop sharing studies that provide evidence that it isn't safe.

This would be a very good time to confess your sins and take the Lord's blood to cleanse you from all unrighteousness prior to appearing before the Lord's judgement seat.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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You're patently ignorant of the ''vaccine'' you defend in such ways.
Your remarks that are offered to counter opinion or even published reports of the side effects of the 'vaccine' are never supported by credible evidence. You merely push the shot.

Is your actual first name Armand?

I ask because I know someone who works for Pfeizer.

One of their objectives at work is to manage lay people employed remotely to troll all social media platforms including discussion boards. Thereby committing to disruption of discussions regarding COVID-19 itself or the 'vaccine' and by spreading disinformation and disparaging personal opinion and/or testimonies of 'vaccine' ill effects.


Actual vaccines build the immune system by causing its T-Helper Cells to build a defense.
What they don't do is travel to the liver's cells and convert into DNA.

Because until COVID-19, mRNA vaccine was studied for decades but was never released into the public domain.[That we know of. Some people I know think mRNA mutation experiments was what was behind the viral weapon HIV/AIDS. Thus far that's just a theory on their part.😟].

The about me Legacy but great in talking about virus packing in labs.
I forgot all about that scene.
Embarrassed.
Must be predictive programming.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Contrary to your assertion, that means you're trying to change minds.
Of course I'm trying to change minds, because it seems to me that there are some minds here that have been put into a spin by their credulity. Love for my fellow man warrants I call a 'whoa, please hold up, you're not only putting you own lives at risk, but others that might be drawn into believing the misinformation that is being given out by the shonky prophets you are listening to'.