Next Big Debate, Obergefell v. Hodges, Gay Marriage
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They probably saw worse. Pagan cities had some extremely detestable things including living child sacrifices.Sure. However this is over 2000 years after Jesus.
We're not getting better. We're, as a species world wide, getting worse.
And now perversion is defensible as a civil right and mental illness is to be tolerated and something to proudly parade in the streets.
Did the apostles see this reading to children outside the Alexandrian library?
But if I say that freak would never sit my child on their lap , and that's signs of mental illness , I'm intolerant , a bigot and a transphobe.
But it is all the same wickedness in God's eyes.
Good point. Maybe history is circular. We just keep repeating it on a new stage.
It is in many ways but there are dispensations where it is obvious that God is guiding the direction to something new like the church age or the age from monarchs (one world powers to Republics and splintered nations. But ultimately it will all still lead to be like the days of Noah.
She has no grasp of the two kingdom principle. Maybe she should read Luther along with Locke.
The whole issue and debate over govco cosigning fetish unions and life styles is absurd. The founders of western culture would have never dreamed of such a possibility. The idea that abhorrent sexual proclivity must be foisted upon the public and flaunted before the eyes of our children is devious.
"Powers not specifically granted to the Federal Government in this Constitution are reserved by the individual states".
Meaning that Marriages are the sole purview of state control.
Any law that Congress manufactures concerning marriage is unconstitutional.
States hold that power exclusively and individually.
Meaning that if a biological brother and sister are granted a marriage license in New Jersey they cannot expect to be legally married in Tennessee....because that state outlaws such Marriages.
However a normal couple who are married in Tennessee are still married in New Jersey.
The Federal Government cannot intercede in such matters. It can't force TN to recognize the NJ marriage.
Meaning that Marriages are the sole purview of state control.
Any law that Congress manufactures concerning marriage is unconstitutional.
States hold that power exclusively and individually.
Meaning that if a biological brother and sister are granted a marriage license in New Jersey they cannot expect to be legally married in Tennessee....because that state outlaws such Marriages.
However a normal couple who are married in Tennessee are still married in New Jersey.
The Federal Government cannot intercede in such matters. It can't force TN to recognize the NJ marriage.
If that were wholly true interracial marriage would not be a national civil right.
Loving vs. Virginia 388 U.S. 1 changed that.
Amendment X (10th Amendment – Reserved Powers)
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The Feds have repeatedly over stepped , trampled on the Constitution. Even if the states have some ugly ungodly laws it should be up to the citizens of those states to change those laws. The idea of the Constitution was to limit the feds .
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The Feds have repeatedly over stepped , trampled on the Constitution. Even if the states have some ugly ungodly laws it should be up to the citizens of those states to change those laws. The idea of the Constitution was to limit the feds .
I looked it up
1913 – The federal government formally recognizes marriage in law for the first time withthe passage of the Revenue Act of 1913. 1929 – All states now have laws regarding marriage licenses. wiki
How sad. And like that govco began the destruction of the family.I looked it up
the passage of the Revenue Act of 1913. 1929 – All states now have laws regarding marriage licenses. wiki
For the sake of greed and corruption
- 1900 – All states now grant married women the right to own property in their own name.
- 1904 – LDS Church President Joseph F. Smith issues the 1904 "Second Manifesto", which stated that the church was no longer sanctioning plural (polygamous) marriages and would excommunicate anyone who participates in future polygamy.[1]
- 1907 – Under the Expatriation Act of 1907, American women will lose citizenship when they marry a foreign husband.[2]
- 1913 – The federal government formally recognizes marriage in law for the first time with the passage of the Revenue Act of 1913.
- 1929 – All states now have laws regarding marriage licenses.
- 1933 – Married women granted right to citizenship independent of their husbands.
- 1948 – California Supreme Court overturns interracial marriage ban (Perez v. Sharp).
- 1965 – The Supreme Court overturns laws prohibiting married couples from using contraception (Griswold v. Connecticut).
- 1967 – The Supreme Court overturns laws prohibiting interracial couples from marrying (Loving v. Virginia).[3]
- 1969 – The first no-fault divorce law, signed by Governor Ronald Reagan, is adopted in California.[3]
- 1971 – The Supreme Court upholds an Alabama law which automatically changes a woman's legal surname to that of her husband upon marriage.[citation needed]
- 1971 – The Supreme Court refuses to hear challenge to a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling allowing prohibition of same-sex marriage (Baker v. Nelson).
- 1972 – The Supreme Court overturns laws prohibiting unmarried couples from purchasing contraception (Eisenstadt v. Baird).
- 1973 – Maryland becomes the first state in the U.S. to define marriage as "between a man and a woman" in statute.
- 1975 – Married women allowed to have credit in their own name.
- 1975 – Three states[which?] outlaw same-sex marriage by statutes.
- 1976 – The Supreme Court overturns laws prohibiting abortions for married women without the consent of the husband.
- 1993 – All 50 states have revised laws to include marital rape.[3]
- 1996 – President Bill Clinton signs the Defense of Marriage Act into law, which outlaws federal recognition of both same-sex marriage and polygamy, and removes any requirement that states recognize such marriages entered into in other jurisdictions.
- 1998 – Hawaii amends its constitution to allow the legislature to ban same-sex marriage, in response to a court ruling which would otherwise have allowed such marriages. Alaska becomes the first state to ban both same-sex marriage and polygamy in its constitution.
- 1998 – South Carolina is the penultimate state in the U.S. to remove the ban on interracial marriage in its state constitution.
I looked it up
the passage of the Revenue Act of 1913. 1929 – All states now have laws regarding marriage licenses. wiki
- 2000 – Nebraska amends its state constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage and polygamy.
- 2000 – Alabama becomes the last state in the US to remove the ban on interracial marriage in its state constitution.
- 2002 – Nevada amends its state constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage and polygamy.
- 2004 – Massachusetts grants and recognizes same-sex marriages, while 14 states rush to outlaw same-sex marriage and polygamy through their state constitutions in response.
- 2005 – Texas amends its state constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage and polygamy.
- 2006 – 26 states outlaw same-sex marriage and polygamy through their state constitutions. Arizona becomes the first state in the United States to reject a constitutional amendment banning both same-sex marriage and polygamy, but passes a constitutional amendment two years later.
- 2006 – 8th Circuit Court of Appeals upholds Nebraska's ban on gay marriage.[4]
- 2008 – New York starts recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, but does not grant such marriages. Connecticut begins granting and recognizing same-sex marriages. California briefly granting and recognizing same-sex marriage until the passage of Proposition 8 later in the year (as well as both the states of Arizona and Florida in banning same-sex marriage and polygamy on the same day in their state constitutions). In California only (prior to Proposition 8) continues recognizing same-sex marriages entered into prior to the proposition's passage. 29 states outlaw same-sex marriage and polygamy through their state constitutions.
- 2009 – Iowa and Vermont grant and recognize same-sex marriages; the District of Columbia starts recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, but does not grant such marriages. Maine repeals the legalization of same-sex marriage before coming into effect by popular vote, which was overturned three years later by another popular vote.
- 2010 – New Hampshire and the District of Columbia begins granting and recognizing same-sex marriages. Maryland starts recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, but does not grant such marriages. In Perry v. Schwarzenegger, a district court overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage (however, the decision is stayed pending an appeal).
- 2011 – New York begins granting and recognizing same-sex marriages.
- 2012 – A federal appeals court upholds the district court decision that struck down California's ban on same-sex marriage (the case was appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court).[5]
- 2012 – North Carolina amends its state constitution by a vote to outlaw both same-sex marriage and polygamy, bringing the total to 30 states that have outlawed both same-sex marriage and polygamy through their state constitutions. Rhode Island starts recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, but does not grant such marriages.
- 2012 – Both Washington and Maine begins granting and recognizing same-sex marriages, only after approval from a referendum, while Minnesota rejects a constitutional amendment banning both same-sex marriage and polygamy.
- 2013 – Maryland begins granting and recognizing same-sex marriages, only after approval from a referendum.
- 2013 - Legal same-sex marriage begins in Delaware and Minnesota.
- 2013 - The Supreme Court of the United States finds that there is no standing for the appeal of the decision overturning Proposition 8 in California, leading to re-introduction of legal same-sex marriages in that state.
- 2013 - The Supreme Court of the United States overturns the Defense of Marriage Act, which outlaws federal recognition of both same-sex marriage and polygamy. Requiring that the federal government recognize marriages in states where such unions are legal.
- 2013 - US District court finds in Brown v. Buhman that portions of Utah's ban on multiple cohabitation were unconstitutional but allowed Utah to maintain its ban on multiple marriage licenses.[6][7][8]
- 2013 - The U.S. District Court for the District of Utah strikes down Utah's ban on same-sex marriage. The ruling was not stayed for several weeks allowing nearly a thousand same-sex couples to marry, though the ruling was stayed by the U.S. Supreme Court on January 6, 2014.
So we arent to call out evil? Nonsense. I think you should do a study concerning what that passage actually means
Ironically you started with the premise of do not judge then made judgements (that I agree with, I might add) and then finished with dont judge.
Ironic.
I think were getting so engrossed in this that were missing something very important. Thermos is a company that makes a product that keeps things hot or cold but everyone calls a thermos "a thermos" regardless of the brand,(gott tote,igloo,Thermos coleman ect.) who all make similar products. People say their going to drink a coke all the time but stop at a store and come out with a Dr.Pepper,a Pepsi,root-beer ect. these companies have had to fight hard in court to keep their brand names from being taken away from them by usage.
Which leads me to my point in that were so focused on debating for or against homosexuality and marriage that their community is stealing a Jewish,Christian ect. symbol right from under our noses,,, the Rainbow. What is the oldest known document stating or showing it's symbolism,usage image ect. ? "Genesis 9" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 9&version=KJV it is the symbol of the Covenant God made between man the earth every living creature and himself it is not a symbol of homosexuality. We should all band together and legally have them stop using it as a symbol of homosexuality and trying to change it's original meaning. Tell them to "stop stealing the Rainbow".
Which leads me to my point in that were so focused on debating for or against homosexuality and marriage that their community is stealing a Jewish,Christian ect. symbol right from under our noses,,, the Rainbow. What is the oldest known document stating or showing it's symbolism,usage image ect. ? "Genesis 9" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 9&version=KJV it is the symbol of the Covenant God made between man the earth every living creature and himself it is not a symbol of homosexuality. We should all band together and legally have them stop using it as a symbol of homosexuality and trying to change it's original meaning. Tell them to "stop stealing the Rainbow".
I incorporated a rainbow in quite a few of my Scripture panels
Yes, for the reason you state:It being the symbol of God's covenant with humanity
Isaiah 65:24