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I have quoted four different prophecies, and these are from people I feel are credible due to their past prophecies and warnings.

Yes, I am posting this because I think there is a very strong and clear warning coming from the Lord that the result of this will be catastrophic. One dream describes this as the door to the pit being opened. Another dream describes the lights going out on an airplane as it is about to crash.

Some of these dreams and visions are very specifically warning about CERN, others you have to connect the dots. Prophecy Club has put out a few warnings.

I am sharing these with everyone. I am not the one who had any of these dreams or visions, but because I believe these people are credible and trustworthy I have reshared them. Since they are referring to CERN being restarted on July 5th I have provided a countdown for when that will take place. Originally I was calculating for 9am on July 5th, actually it is 4pm on July 5th in Geneva. So to keep things simple, it is 10am on July 5th, EST.

My countdown is not a prophecy, it is not a dream or vision, it is not a reference to the rapture or any other event, it is simply the time the news has reported that CERN will be operating at full power once again.
I fully understand all that.

What I’m asking is, will you agree that if this doesn’t happen, these people must be regarded as false prophets?
 

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I fully understand all that.

What I’m asking is, will you agree that if this doesn’t happen, these people must be regarded as false prophets?
Sure, if we are specific about what they are prophesying will happen.

The people who have spoken specifically about CERN are saying that demons will be released from the pit and as a result of that we will see amazing things being explained away as aliens from another planet, etc.

Several of the dreams describe this panic engulfing everyone, first the scientist who released it and then everyone who is currently oblivious to everything that has been happening.

So then it is really not clear to me how quickly you go from the scientists at CERN being in a panic to the whole world being in a panic. Could all take place tomorrow, could all take place over forty days.

However, I do agree that these prophecies do not appear to any longer be warnings for us to pray about but rather a declaration of the judgement that has already been declared. Several of them indicate strongly to me that this will all take place in the next few months, though it is not unreasonable to interpret tomorrow being a pivotal day with the world going from normal to bizarre in a single day.

Stan at the prophecy club has been saying right up until this week that he expects a few more years till the tribulation starts, he is probably the biggest skeptic among all these, and yet after these latest dreams and visions he admits he thinks he may be wrong and this is about to start this summer.

These are demons being released from the pit, not angels being cast out of heaven. So tying this to Revelation 12 is not fair to those who gave the dreams and visions, that in turn means it is not fair to say the rapture of the man child can be inferred from these prophecies.

So then to the best of my understanding this is what the prophecies are saying -- beginning tomorrow at 10am EST demons who have been locked in the pit will be released. They will spread throughout the earth like a gross darkness that can be felt. We don't know specifically how long this "spreading" will take, however this will result in catastrophic events for the world's economy which people will see is in a nosedive, it will result in demonic and bizarre events on the earth, and we can expect the entire US to wake up and to be in a panic sometime between July 5th and September 25th.
 

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I fully understand all that.

What I’m asking is, will you agree that if this doesn’t happen, these people must be regarded as false prophets?
I am listening again and although the prophecy on Prophecy club describes the darkness filling the room then spilling out of the building and then spreading to the whole world the description is of it being very rapid saying "the more it spread the faster it seemed to go". Looking at that it seemed it was growing exponentially and so even if the whole world were not plunged into darkness the first day the whole world would know about it because at least the city would be.

The other issue is this does not say when this vile is broken and the darkness is released. Something is said which I do not understand which is that the people in this building are collecting dark matter. I don't know what that means. A drop of dark matter escapes and the world is plunged into darkness. So this does not say the minute that CERN is turned on this happens, we can surmise that turning on CERN is designed to collect dark matter because even their scientists have said this publicly. So turning on CERN leads to this accident, but we are not told the accident takes place tomorrow.

Also this 3 days of gross darkness that can be felt is very reminiscent of the ten plagues in Egypt and this is not the first one. The first one is that the water turns to blood and we have already received some terrifying prophecies about what that means.

Also it seems that this prophecy is to "the remnant" since the Lord says "Be ready, my remnant". I think this is referring to those who are left behind. I think the church is raptured before the tribulation and then the "remnant" would refer to those left behind.

However, I heard a different prophecy from a different prophet about this same thing yesterday and it sounded to me like the process of turning on CERN on July 5th would splinter open the gate to the pit.

A second word from the Lord said that the pit was opened by CERN but after they did that then an angel is sent at the 5th trumpet with a key to the bottomless pit. So what CERN is doing tomorrow is not going to result in the smoke and locusts coming out until the angel is sent with the key to the bottomless pit.

However, he does say that CERN will open portals for many unnatural things (giants and demons posing as extra terrestrials, etc) to come through. So I conclude that beginning tomorrow things will come through, but that doiesn't mean the 5th trumpet sounds tomorrow, that could be a few years away.
 

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War is coming.

I hate to be so gloomy, I thought I would live out my days in peace. There comes a point in international affairs where all the players agree on both sides that war is the only answer.

It will be nuclear.

Worst of all I think we are in the wrong.
Oh no.
So what should we do? Or what should I do?
 

ZNP

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Oh no.
So what should we do? Or what should I do?
Make sure your heart is right with the Lord. Be a good servant in the church, spend time every day in the word and prayer with the Lord, and invest the talents the Lord has given you so that at His coming there will be a good return on investment for the Lord.
 

Eli1

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Make sure your heart is right with the Lord. Be a good servant in the church, spend time every day in the word and prayer with the Lord, and invest the talents the Lord has given you so that at His coming there will be a good return on investment for the Lord.
That’s it?
I do those now without a nuclear war.
 
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I watched a video where they found an area of some desert that had a bunch of really old glass...the type created by a nuclear blast.
 

Eli1

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Some people need that extra push to repent.
Okay I agree with that. But are doomsday or failed prophecy scenarios about turning people to God or to make the cult leader glorious?
 

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Okay I agree with that. But are doomsday or failed prophecy scenarios about turning people to God or to make the cult leader glorious?
Don't know, I suppose Ezekiel or Jeremiah has thought more about that than me. Or you could ask Jesus or the Apostle John, they have some of the best doomsday prophecies in the Bible.
 

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Don't know, I suppose Ezekiel or Jeremiah has thought more about that than me. Or you could ask Jesus or the Apostle John, they have some of the best doomsday prophecies in the Bible.
I thought we were having a reasonable convo here but you took a HARD turn at 120mph.
Obviously Jesus is an not what I had in mind when discussing threads like these when someone says “I predict nuclear war”.
Or when someone like these guys : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events who have failed to predict doomsday scenarios which include people who try to interpret the book of revelations as something that’s happening tomorrow or others like Nostradamus when they do ”voodoo magic” to “predict” something.
 

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I thought we were having a reasonable convo here but you took a HARD turn at 120mph.
Obviously Jesus is an not what I had in mind when discussing threads like these when someone says “I predict nuclear war”.
Or when someone like these guys : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events who have failed to predict doomsday scenarios which include people who try to interpret the book of revelations as something that’s happening tomorrow or others like Nostradamus when they do ”voodoo magic” to “predict” something.
Ezekiel 38 seems to definitely be predicting a nuclear war between Russia, a union of Islamic nations and Israel.

The book of Revelation also seems to clearly refer to the impact of nuclear war.

Jesus said that the tribulation and suffering during the time of the day of the Lord would be worse than anything we had ever seen in human history, hard for that to be fulfilled without a nuclear war.

Jeremiah is the "weeping prophet". His description of a besieged Israel/Jerusalem is about as grisly as anything you can read.

It is always amazing to me that the people who are so self assured about what the Bible says and what Jesus or the apostles said are the ones who are the most clueless.

Jesus loves us, Jesus died for us, but the same time that Jesus had been filet'd alive and was about to be nailed to the cross to die He said not to weep for Him but to weep for ourselves. What exactly do you think that meant if He isn't warning of horrific disaster befalling them.

Unless you are blind you have seen we are moving to one world government, just as the Bible prophesies, that will be headed up by AntiChrist who will require everyone get the mark of the beast or else be beheaded. This is going to be Stalin, Hitler and Nero on a worldwide scale.
 

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Ezekiel 38 seems to definitely be predicting a nuclear war between Russia, a union of Islamic nations and Israel.

The book of Revelation also seems to clearly refer to the impact of nuclear war.

Jesus said that the tribulation and suffering during the time of the day of the Lord would be worse than anything we had ever seen in human history, hard for that to be fulfilled without a nuclear war.

Jeremiah is the "weeping prophet". His description of a besieged Israel/Jerusalem is about as grisly as anything you can read.
Look. I am not doubting THIS. (And I dont even want to debate your nuclear war interpretation of Revelations here)
What I find hilarious is when people take THIS and say that’s it’s gonna happen tomorrow.
There’s another verse in there which says that “Only the Father knows the time” but a lot of people just brush that aside because they have this NEED that something Major will happen in their lifetime. This need has the traits of cultist leaders which take these verses and weaponize them against the weak masses to control them and to glorify themselves.
 

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Look. I am not doubting THIS. (And I dont even want to debate your nuclear war interpretation of Revelations here)
What I find hilarious is when people take THIS and say that’s it’s gonna happen tomorrow.
There’s another verse in there which says that “Only the Father knows the time” but a lot of people just brush that aside because they have this NEED that something Major will happen in their lifetime. This need has the traits of cultist leaders which take these verses and weaponize them against the weak masses to control them and to glorify themselves.
Who said this is gonna happen tomorrow?

What I find hilarious is when people read a couple of words in a post and then run off half cocked with absurd claims like this.
 

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When I was a kid we would have bonfires. During the day the fire would be built. It would take all day to prepare the wood and build it up into a huge bonfire. Then at night they would fill the buckets with water and assign the people responsible for putting out embers. Then they would have a huge gathering, talk and light the fire. At first it is just a small flame inside the bonfire, but within fifteen minutes it grows into a big fire and then fifteen minutes later it is a huge bonfire.

If we look at what is going on right now we can see that the bonfire was lit when Russia invaded Ukraine. Inflation, the collapse of Sri Lanka, famine, the formation of alliances to get around the sanctions, this is the fire growing. It isn't a bonfire right now, but we have passed the point of no return. We will see this grow and grow until the whole world is in flames.
 

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Who said this is gonna happen tomorrow?

What I find hilarious is when people read a couple of words in a post and then run off half cocked with absurd claims like this.
Now it‘s becoming more difficult to have a reasonable convo because you believe a lot into conspiracy theories too.
But in regards to this topic the OP says that things are happening very soon.
War is going to happen. It’s going to be nuclear and it’s going to happen in our lifetime !
So while I agree with you that difficult times should turn people to God, I also disagree with you for defending false conspiracy theory prophets.
 

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Now it‘s becoming more difficult to have a reasonable convo because you believe a lot into conspiracy theories too.
But in regards to this topic the OP says that things are happening very soon.
War is going to happen. It’s going to be nuclear and it’s going to happen in our lifetime !
So while I agree with you that difficult times should turn people to God, I also disagree with you for defending false conspiracy theory prophets.
You just went from "tomorrow" to "our lifetime". Are you a terminal cancer patient with one day to live?

Tomorrow CERN will be back to full power. That is prophesied to open the pit. No one is saying an army will come streaming out tomorrow, rather more like demons and other non natural things will come out and make our world very dark.

If you listen to Vladimir Putin he has said that we (US and NATO) are already at war with Russia. He has also said that if necessary he will go nuclear. So how can this be considered a "conspiracy theory"?
 

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You just went from "tomorrow" to "our lifetime". Are you a terminal cancer patient with one day to live?
Smh. You obviously take a lot of liberty with the Bible interpreting things your way and you have a problem when I say that tomorrow and one lifetime is not the same thing for the purposes of illustrating false prophets?