Do you observe the Sabbath?

[posthuman]

Under the Law, keeping the Sabbath was to include all in the household. Animals and servants included.

i have no idea how to convince my cats to stop doing cat-work
i watch them
they do the same thing on sabbath as they do every day
so i ask, if this is universal & timeless from the dawn of creation -- why doesn't sinless creation ((living souls such as cats)) appear to treat it any differently than any other day?

i'm led to believe, both from scripture and from what i observe, that ceremonial sabbath inactivity of the flesh is a sign given specifically to the Jewish people.
i am hated for this conclusion.

 

[posthuman]

I observe the Sabbath....
Because there is only One Sabbath....the day Jesus died is it. I remember that day and keep it always in remembrance.

The command isn't Sabbath DayS....it is Sabbath Day....meaning one not multiple ones.

that's a really interesting observation -- you are correct; the command of the law is a singular day -- not plural.
it points to the singular 'yom' that God rested from His work; that "it was finished" - which presages the singular day God "finished" the work - that He completes what He has begun -- past, present, future -- Who was, is, and is yet to become

 

[posthuman]

i walked outside this morning
the bees are just as busy as yesterday
do bees not obey God?

 

[posthuman]

@Phoneman-777

why are the bees doing the same thing today that they did yesterday?
do you accuse bees of sin?

 

[JohnDB]

that's a really interesting observation -- you are correct; the command of the law is a singular day -- not plural.
it points to the singular 'yom' that God rested from His work; that "it was finished" - which presages the singular day God "finished" the work - that He completes what He has begun -- past, present, future -- Who was, is, and is yet to become

The order of the ten commandments is also telling. The commandment before this was about God's name and identity and the one following this was about our name and identity.

The Laws of God are like silver refined 7 times.

 

[Phoneman-777]

@Phoneman-777

why are the bees doing the same thing today that they did yesterday?
do you accuse bees of sin?

Uh.....what?

 

[Phoneman-777]

I observe the Sabbath....
Because there is only One Sabbath....the day Jesus died is it. I remember that day and keep it always in remembrance.

The command isn't Sabbath DayS....it is Sabbath Day....meaning one not multiple ones.

If you believe the only Sabbath day was the day Jesus died, you'd better get busy building a time machine and travel back to that day and keep it holy, else "thou art become a transgressor of the law" just as if you would "commit no adultery, yet thou kill". (James 2:11 KJV)

 

[Phoneman-777]

Just curious if anyone observes the Sabbath. It seems like some people do and some people don’t, citing a variety of reasons.

Are there any clear commands to observe a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of the week? Which verses? I ask because I see there are clear commands to observe some of the 10 commandments, but I can’t find anything about Jesus or one of the apostles commanding anyone to keep the Sabbath.

Personally I don’t observe Sabbath day of rest as of right now, but I’ve considered it and I’m not opposed to it.

Also, if you keep the Sabbath, what do you do and don’t do on your Sabbath day of rest?

HEBREWS 4:9-10 PESHITTA (Lamsa), Bible of Ancient Eastern MSS -- closest to the Textus Receptus:

"IT IS THEREFORE THE DUTY OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.
FOR HE THAT HATH ENTERED INTO HIS REST, HE HATH CEASED FROM HIS OWN WORKS
AS GOD DID FROM HIS." ​

 

[Phoneman-777]

What’s an 8th day sabbath?

LOL Where is THAT in the Bible? The only "change of the law" the Bible speaks of has to do with the priesthood and Jesus' lineage in Hebrews 7, without which He would not be a legit High Priest.

There's certainly no change in the 7th day Sabbath, which is to be kept now and through all eternity.

 

[JohnDB]

If you believe the only Sabbath day was the day Jesus died, you'd better get busy building a time machine and travel back to that day and keep it holy, else "thou art become a transgressor of the law" just as if you would "commit no adultery, yet thou kill". (James 2:11 KJV)

But that's why I need a Savior. I am unable to keep the law perfectly...I do the absolute best I can but I simply can't.

I even drive on Saturdays which is lighting fires in my ICE vehicle. Which also is breaking the Law.

So I need a Savior. (To save me from the punishment of my sins)

I recommend Jesus....He has been mine for a long time.

 

[cv5]

works for jews. that is the only ones commanded to keep it,

gentiles were never commanded to keep the jewish Sabbath.

As far as we know, Abraham Isaac and Jacob never kept the 7th day Sabbath either.

 

[posthuman]

Uh.....what?

don't you understand your own preaching?

the Creation has no sin, apart from man. subjected to futility not of its own ((Romans 8:20))

however the Creation doesn't cease from its daily activity once a week,
yet you accuse every Christian of sin because you hold ceremonial cessation of activity every seventh day as an idol & supposed bludgeon above the grace of God manifest in Christ.

so why don't bees stop gathering pollen on saturdays?

pretty simple question. are bees damned because they're buzzing around flowers today?
do all bees go to hell?
that's your preaching.
Creation doesn't match your private interpretation. why not?

 

[cv5]

let's go back a few thousand years.

around 112 a d, the roman gov. pliny the younger stated that Christians meet " on a certain day before dawn to sing hymns as Christ as God"

so, what happened before dawn on a certain day???

Only Sunday is ever noted in Scripture as being the day where Christians gather as an assembly to worship and provide an offering. Furthermore there are no historical records of a switch being made from Saturday to Sunday.

 

[posthuman]

As far as we know, Abraham Isaac and Jacob never kept the 7th day Sabbath either.

yes
no mention of sabbath in scripture until Exodus 16 at the giving of manna

 

[posthuman]

There's certainly no change in the 7th day Sabbath, which is to be kept now and through all eternity.

you have never read Hebrews 4?

Again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today"
(Hebrews 4:7) ​

​

crazy how you think you are anyone's teacher while you are so ignorant of the Word

 

[posthuman]

HEBREWS 4:9-10 PESHITTA (Lamsa), Bible of Ancient Eastern MSS -- closest to the Textus Receptus:

"IT IS THEREFORE THE DUTY OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.
FOR HE THAT HATH ENTERED INTO HIS REST, HE HATH CEASED FROM HIS OWN WORKS
AS GOD DID FROM HIS." ​

the peshita is well-known to be a Judaizing perversion of the actual scripture.

thought you were kjv-only??
i guess 'only when it suits your private doctrines' huh

 

[cv5]

LOL Where is THAT in the Bible? The only "change of the law" the Bible speaks of has to do with the priesthood and Jesus' lineage in Hebrews 7, without which He would not be a legit High Priest.

There's certainly no change in the 7th day Sabbath, which is to be kept now and through all eternity.

Exodus 24:12
Then the Lord said to Moses, "Come up to Me on the Mountain and be there: and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law of commandments which I have written that you may teach them".

The 10 commandments were bundled into the Mosaic law. This law the Israelites did not possess nor keep for 430 years in Egypt.

Further, Exodus 31:13, Eze 20:12, 20 makes it clear that this Sabbath was:

-a sign of the covenant made to ISRAEL.
-a sign given to remind THEM that it is the Lord who sanctifies them and set them apart to be holy
-a sign to remind THEM that "I am the Lord your God"

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

Romans 14:5-10
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.


10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

 

[cv5]

LOL Where is THAT in the Bible? The only "change of the law" the Bible speaks of has to do with the priesthood and Jesus' lineage in Hebrews 7, without which He would not be a legit High Priest.

There's certainly no change in the 7th day Sabbath, which is to be kept now and through all eternity.

So let me know if I have an accurate assessment of your perspective:

-you believe that "keeping the 10 Commandments" and "keeping the 7th day Sabbath" are required for salvation.
-all Christians must maintain these protocols to some kind of more or less rigorous standard
-Christians are in constant jeopardy of losing their salvation if they do not adequately maintain these "eternal laws"
-salvation is never ultimately assured
-salvation is by necessity predicated upon a certain level of performance.

Do I have this right?

 

[Grace911]

" cv5 said: Yep. Seven days a week."

you treat the sabbath like all other days but God sanctified the seventh day only.
Keeping the sabbath is a command and by egnoring it you are ignoring the command.

Satan has a "mark" upon your hand or forehead. Rev_13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev_20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The LORD has a sign that He gives speaking of the FOURTH COMMANDMENT - IF you do not keep the fourth commandment you do not have the LORD's sign upon you.

Exo_13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.

Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Exo_31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Deu_6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Deu_11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

Eze_20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Eze_20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your


It all comes down to obedience and who you love. You love yourself so much that you feel the need to rebel against the LORD. Oh, I know, you don't think you are part of Israel, right? When you see that your baptism and gift of the Holy Spirit are gifts to help you obey, if your heart isn't hardened and stony.

NOT MY PEOPLE

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

It isn't Paul who puts these desires in mind and hearts. It is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus that provided the New Covenant so that the Helper/Comforter could come and make Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31 possible for ALL NATIONS. Peter warns you that Paul's words are difficult to understand and that many twist Paul's word so that they can continue in rebellion and hate towards the LORD's commandments. This saying "If you love me, keep my commandments". Look in your own Bible: at OT and NT:
Exo_20:6; Deu_5:10; Deu_7:9; Deu_11:1; Deu_11:13; Deu_11:22; Deu_19:9; Deu_30:16; Jos_22:5; Neh_1:5; Psa_119:47; Psa_119:48; Psa_119:127; Dan_9:4; Joh_14:15; Joh_14:21; Joh_15:10; 1Jn_5:2; 1Jn_5:3; 2Jn_1:6.

 

[Runningman]

Satan has a "mark" upon your hand or forehead. Rev_13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Is it lawful to buy or sell on the sabbath? I ask this because Satan’s Antichrist kingdom is a mockery of the real kingdom. What angle do you believe Satan is playing here?