Who Justifieth the Ungodly
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What Rom 3:22-25 does is nullify your notion that faith is works on the part of man.
Romans 3:
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Since righteousness is through faith (vs 22) and since we are justified freely by God's grace (vs 24), then it is error on your part to conclude faith is a "work" on the part of man.
Believing is not the result of the "Power of the Gospel".
Faith in the gospel of Christ results in salvation. The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation:
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the gospel of Christ] is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
The verse does not state that the "Power of the Gospel" causes anyone to believe.
The verse states that for all who believe, the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation.
Quit manipulating God's Word to prop up your erroneous dogma.
Bring your dogma into alignment with Scripture. Do not attempt to align Scripture to your dogma.
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Romans 3:
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Since righteousness is through faith (vs 22) and since we are justified freely by God's grace (vs 24), then it is error on your part to conclude faith is a "work" on the part of man.
Believing is not the result of the "Power of the Gospel".
Faith in the gospel of Christ results in salvation. The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation:
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the gospel of Christ] is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
The verse does not state that the "Power of the Gospel" causes anyone to believe.
The verse states that for all who believe, the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation.
Quit manipulating God's Word to prop up your erroneous dogma.
Bring your dogma into alignment with Scripture. Do not attempt to align Scripture to your dogma.
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Nope. Scripture is very clear in telling us that faith is not works:
Romans 4:
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it [Abraham's faith] was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Bring your dogma into alignment with Scripture. Do not attempt to align Scripture to your dogma.
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Romans 4:
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it [Abraham's faith] was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Bring your dogma into alignment with Scripture. Do not attempt to align Scripture to your dogma.
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God doesn't need your help in "merely highlighting a truth found in the context".
God places verses within the context He determines is best in "merely highlighting" truth.
Nope. Scripture makes quite clear that faith is not works:
Romans 4:
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it [Abraham's faith] was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
According to Romans 5:1, how are we justified ?
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
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I do not discard verses. What I do is compare your "traditions" with the context of the verse you rip from its context. That is where you are in error. Align your "traditions" with Scripture ... do not attempt to align Scripture with your "traditions".
... so now you're an "Apostle"???
The reason the men who penned Scripture "borrowed scriptures from the Old Testament to make New Testament points" is because God, as the Author of Scripture, revealed to them what He wanted written and they wrote it ... just as God instructed:
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
You, on the other hand, rip a verse from the context and then try to explain the verse according to your "traditions". That is improper interpretation of Scripture ... and is referred to as eisegesis:
... so now you're an "Apostle"???The reason the men who penned Scripture "borrowed scriptures from the Old Testament to make New Testament points" is because God, as the Author of Scripture, revealed to them what He wanted written and they wrote it ... just as God instructed:
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
You, on the other hand, rip a verse from the context and then try to explain the verse according to your "traditions". That is improper interpretation of Scripture ... and is referred to as eisegesis:
Exegesis and eisegesis are two conflicting approaches in Bible study. Exegesis is the exposition or explanation of a text based on a careful, objective analysis. The word exegesis literally means “to lead out of.” That means that the interpreter is led to his conclusions by following the text.
The opposite approach to Scripture is eisegesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.
Obviously, only exegesis does justice to the text. Eisegesis is a mishandling of the text and often leads to a misinterpretation. Exegesis is concerned with discovering the true meaning of the text, respecting its grammar, syntax, and setting. Eisegesis is concerned only with making a point, even at the expense of the meaning of words.
. more of your continual taking verses out of context in order to support a "tradition".According to 1 Corinthians 2:7, Paul is no longer speaking of the gospel in vss 13-14. In 1 Corinthians 2:7, Paul begins to speak of the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom. These are deeper spiritual truths than the gospel of Christ.
Again, 1 Cor 2:13-14 relates to deeper spiritual truths than the gospel of Christ.
When you misinterpret 1 Corinthians 2:13-14 to state that "the unregenerate sinner doesnt have the spiritual capacity to spiritually believe the Gospel nor understand it", you are supporting your "tradition".
You are to align your "tradition" to Scripture. You are not to attempt to align Scripture to your "tradition".
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Again, you've got people born again before they can believe the gospel by which they are born again. You've got the cart before the horse.
Additionally, love is the fruit of the Spirit as well. Are you saying that natural man cannot love because love is the fruit of the Spirit?
What about temperance (self control)? No natural men have self control?
How about patience? No natural men are patient?
Or is it only faith that you claim is withheld from mankind ... or given only to the "elect" so that the "elect" is born again and has fruit of the Spirit so he/she can believe the gospel by which he/she is born again ?
Quit trying to make Scripture align with your dogma. Bring your dogma into alignment with Scripture. Whenever your dogma does not align with Scripture, stick to Scripture and throw your dogma into the trash heap where it belongs.
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Additionally, love is the fruit of the Spirit as well. Are you saying that natural man cannot love because love is the fruit of the Spirit?
What about temperance (self control)? No natural men have self control?
How about patience? No natural men are patient?
Or is it only faith that you claim is withheld from mankind ... or given only to the "elect" so that the "elect" is born again and has fruit of the Spirit so he/she can believe the gospel by which he/she is born again ?
Quit trying to make Scripture align with your dogma. Bring your dogma into alignment with Scripture. Whenever your dogma does not align with Scripture, stick to Scripture and throw your dogma into the trash heap where it belongs.
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According to Romans 5:1, how are we justified ?
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
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Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
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Justifieth the ungodly !
Rom 4:5
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
One of the most popular and damnable heresies in false antichrist religion is that Faith, which pleases God Heb 11:6 is a condition for man to do, to act before God does Justify him; BUT thats a lie against the Truth and against God's Grace, the fact is, those for whom Christ died are Justified /made righteous by that single act of His alone Rom 5:19 and that while they are in themselves still being ungodly, even enemies Rom 5:10 !
Justifying the ungodly is in the present tense and ungody is preceded by the definite article :
τῷ δὲ μὴ ἐργαζομένῳ πιστεύοντι δὲ ἐπὶ τὸν δικαιοῦντα τὸν ἀσεβῆ λογίζεται ἡ πίστις αὐτοῦ εἰς δικαιοσύνην
This means they were being counted as Justified/made Righteous while they were the ungodly ! That word ungodly means :
I.destitute of reverential awe towards God, condemning God, impious
Remember earlier Paul wrote of the state of the natural man by nature Rom 3:18
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Yes, while those whom Christ died are in that ungodly state, they are being Justified, hence , God hath because of Christ Justified the ungodly !
You see one cannot act faith in Christ, which act pleases God, and that be the cause of God Justifying them, when one is Justified while being ungodly, and a ungodly person cannot and does not please God with one single act of theirs !
That thought in fact is negated at the very start with Paul's statement "But to him that worketh not" which can be rendered also "But to the one not yet acting"
This again denotes being Justified without any act of theirs being done or considered ! 12
Rom 4:5
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
One of the most popular and damnable heresies in false antichrist religion is that Faith, which pleases God Heb 11:6 is a condition for man to do, to act before God does Justify him; BUT thats a lie against the Truth and against God's Grace, the fact is, those for whom Christ died are Justified /made righteous by that single act of His alone Rom 5:19 and that while they are in themselves still being ungodly, even enemies Rom 5:10 !
Justifying the ungodly is in the present tense and ungody is preceded by the definite article :
τῷ δὲ μὴ ἐργαζομένῳ πιστεύοντι δὲ ἐπὶ τὸν δικαιοῦντα τὸν ἀσεβῆ λογίζεται ἡ πίστις αὐτοῦ εἰς δικαιοσύνην
This means they were being counted as Justified/made Righteous while they were the ungodly ! That word ungodly means :
I.destitute of reverential awe towards God, condemning God, impious
Remember earlier Paul wrote of the state of the natural man by nature Rom 3:18
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Yes, while those whom Christ died are in that ungodly state, they are being Justified, hence , God hath because of Christ Justified the ungodly !
You see one cannot act faith in Christ, which act pleases God, and that be the cause of God Justifying them, when one is Justified while being ungodly, and a ungodly person cannot and does not please God with one single act of theirs !
That thought in fact is negated at the very start with Paul's statement "But to him that worketh not" which can be rendered also "But to the one not yet acting"
This again denotes being Justified without any act of theirs being done or considered ! 12
Those whom Christ died have had their sins purged away by His Blood Heb 1:3
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
That word purged katharismos :
a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Chris
See that, purged from the guilt of sins, by Christs death. Their guilt for their sins have been discharged, they are Justified. Thats the scripture if you haven't noticed, so why not stick to that ? How can anyone Christ purged be charged with sin ? Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Notice Hes at the Right hand of God here just as He is in Heb 1:3 its the same truth !
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
That word purged katharismos :
a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Chris
See that, purged from the guilt of sins, by Christs death. Their guilt for their sins have been discharged, they are Justified. Thats the scripture if you haven't noticed, so why not stick to that ? How can anyone Christ purged be charged with sin ? Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Notice Hes at the Right hand of God here just as He is in Heb 1:3 its the same truth !
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Nothing about any conditions here, again Vs 24 in that context specifies Justification is by Grace freely, through Christs Redeeming death
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Now you the one that makes Faith a work that the natural man does, not me. My position is that Faith is a fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22 which the natural man doesnt have. So you make faith a work of men, a condition man performs.
Nothing about any conditions here, again Vs 24 in that context specifies Justification is by Grace freely, through Christs Redeeming death
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Now you the one that makes Faith a work that the natural man does, not me. My position is that Faith is a fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22 which the natural man doesnt have. So you make faith a work of men, a condition man performs.