100% Acceptance Of Homosexuality By 2040?
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I saw an interview today with a drag queen who is strongly against children's involvement. Said that what's happening is being promoted by the pharmaceutical and medical industry.
I don't get it. Why look at a guy when there's women to look at? Women are a thing of beauty! Guys are stupid-looking. Leave the children out of it.
If someone wants to be queer...it's their life. I know what the word says. Since I'm not about to start throwing them off of buildings, I think I'm going to try and live in peace with them. Though I don't know any gay people...haven't for 40 years.
I don't get it. Why look at a guy when there's women to look at? Women are a thing of beauty! Guys are stupid-looking. Leave the children out of it.
If someone wants to be queer...it's their life. I know what the word says. Since I'm not about to start throwing them off of buildings, I think I'm going to try and live in peace with them. Though I don't know any gay people...haven't for 40 years.
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to futher explain, i don't want to control or what not as to what the person does in the privacy of their home (except i would love for them to see the right view and perspective of what they are doing, but will treat them as a human should nonetheless), but i worry about the public displays of sin that is looked at and regarded as good or natural...
these things may not look like it impacts anything at all or seems like a mind-your-own-business thing... but people don't realise, or maybe they do, that these affect people who are in confusion of their lives- and especially the young ones viewing these things and will grow up to partake in it and may even mutilate their bodies with irreversable damage.. that is what i worry and care for.. with hopes of the earlier to be guided to God and their hearts will find their identity in Christ and not in this sin.
these things may not look like it impacts anything at all or seems like a mind-your-own-business thing... but people don't realise, or maybe they do, that these affect people who are in confusion of their lives- and especially the young ones viewing these things and will grow up to partake in it and may even mutilate their bodies with irreversable damage.. that is what i worry and care for.. with hopes of the earlier to be guided to God and their hearts will find their identity in Christ and not in this sin.
You can put this in the Conspiracy Theory section because this will never come to pass. Even if 99% of the wicked society of the four shameful generations tries to make us accept this there will be not just one that will never accept this. Much less will the Lord God accept it, but he will judge them with the Four Sore Judgements, and if they continue to provoke him, send the Sword to save the faithful from these Babylonian monsters in the name of Jesus, amen.
There’s evidence to suggest that once wickedness reaches certain levels of intensity and frequency in a population of people that God will step in an do something. It seems to involve destroying cities and/or killing nearly everyone on Earth.
The Bible does predict that another time is coming that wickedness will be so commonplace that it’ll actually provoke the return of Jesus Christ Himself; this time with His mighty angels, in flaming fire, taking vengeance on those who don’t know God and those who don’t obey the gospel.
I guess we think things are bad to some degree now, but we haven’t quite reached this point again, “the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Partly due to the the presence of the “salt of the Earth.”
The Bible does predict that another time is coming that wickedness will be so commonplace that it’ll actually provoke the return of Jesus Christ Himself; this time with His mighty angels, in flaming fire, taking vengeance on those who don’t know God and those who don’t obey the gospel.
I guess we think things are bad to some degree now, but we haven’t quite reached this point again, “the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Partly due to the the presence of the “salt of the Earth.”
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Oh yes, it is happening now, this is the Decade of Decisions the Lord said back in 2019. God was patient, now the four shameful generations get the Four Sore Judgements. In this decade everything will be decided for the four shameful generations whether they will acknowledge the truth and turn back or perish violently by the Sword striking them at all angles, from within, and from with out, in the name of Jesus.
Yes, Jesus likened the time period of his return with the exceedingly sinful timeframes of Noah's flood and the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah, so we really shouldn't be surprised to see homosexuality abounding as this present evil world's time clock clicks down.
Luke chapter 17
[26] And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
[27] They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
[28] Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
[29] But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
[30] Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
God has justly dealt with both angels and men in the past for their sins, and he will do so again for all of those who refuse to repent of the same.
II Peter chapter 2
[4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
[5] And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
[6] And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
[7] And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
[8] (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds)
[9] The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Again:
Jude chapter 1
[6] And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
[7] Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Luke chapter 17
[26] And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
[27] They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
[28] Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
[29] But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
[30] Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
God has justly dealt with both angels and men in the past for their sins, and he will do so again for all of those who refuse to repent of the same.
II Peter chapter 2
[4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
[5] And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
[6] And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
[7] And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
[8] (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds)
[9] The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Again:
Jude chapter 1
[6] And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
[7] Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Even if these things were only being done "behind closed doors" or "in secret", then Christians are still called to "reprove" or rebuke such "unfruitful works of darkness" as those who are called to be "light" in this dark, dark world.
Ephesians chapter 5
[1] Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
[2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
[3] But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
[4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
[5] For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
[6] Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
[7] Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
[8] For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
[9] (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth)
[10] Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
[11] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
[12] For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
[13] But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Ephesians chapter 5
[1] Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
[2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
[3] But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
[4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
[5] For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
[6] Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
[7] Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
[8] For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
[9] (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth)
[10] Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
[11] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
[12] For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
[13] But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
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Jesus ate with sinners WHILE CALLING THEM TO REPENTANCE.
Mark chapter 2
[15] And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
[16] And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
[17] When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
P.S.
"The scribes and Pharisees" were NOT Jesus' "disciples".
Mark chapter 2
[15] And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
[16] And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
[17] When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
P.S.
"The scribes and Pharisees" were NOT Jesus' "disciples".
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We seem to live in an information age that has no wisdom whatsoever....
Where avarice and moral turpitude are lauded and morality is used for condemnation.
The sheeple who took this poll were answering with what the pollster wanted to hear. It's a push poll seeking a specific answer. Polls are very difficult to obtain accuracy.
Anybody actually answer their phone from an unsolicited number anymore?
So when I see polls like this....there's a ton of tiny writing that goes with them. And likely that writing would read something akin to "among men in the bath house district of San Francisco".
Because it's not acceptable to the majority of Americans. It's yet another lie trying to push people into a way of thinking or keeping quiet about sin.
Where avarice and moral turpitude are lauded and morality is used for condemnation.
The sheeple who took this poll were answering with what the pollster wanted to hear. It's a push poll seeking a specific answer. Polls are very difficult to obtain accuracy.
Anybody actually answer their phone from an unsolicited number anymore?
So when I see polls like this....there's a ton of tiny writing that goes with them. And likely that writing would read something akin to "among men in the bath house district of San Francisco".
Because it's not acceptable to the majority of Americans. It's yet another lie trying to push people into a way of thinking or keeping quiet about sin.
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Hello @Vindicator, if we believers get to the point where we refuse to lovingly make sinners (of all different kinds) aware of the truth for their sakes, then I'm sure that God will step in somehow.
Of course, this is the only group of sinners that is taking a public, pride-filled stance in the hope of seeing their particular brand of sinfulness justified as something that is "normal" by our society at large (there are, for instance, no liar, adulterer or coveter pride parades that I am currently aware of, nor is there any national effort to see those sins normalized in our schools, businesses, homes AND churches in this way) .. THANKFULLY
"~THE~ Truth", or more specifically, the belief that there is no objective truth, is what is/will continue to be behind this movement. Of course, this is hardly the first time that this has happened (objective truth being set aside, that is), and it has always resulted in the barbarianism that we have increasingly become aware of in the world over the last several years.
As Christians, we must not allow ourselves to justify and embrace this sin (or any other) like the world seems so bent on doing today, because if we do not continue to tell people what the truth/God's truth actually is, then no one will!!
God bless you!!
~Deut
Of course, this is the only group of sinners that is taking a public, pride-filled stance in the hope of seeing their particular brand of sinfulness justified as something that is "normal" by our society at large (there are, for instance, no liar, adulterer or coveter pride parades that I am currently aware of, nor is there any national effort to see those sins normalized in our schools, businesses, homes AND churches in this way) .. THANKFULLY
"~THE~ Truth", or more specifically, the belief that there is no objective truth, is what is/will continue to be behind this movement. Of course, this is hardly the first time that this has happened (objective truth being set aside, that is), and it has always resulted in the barbarianism that we have increasingly become aware of in the world over the last several years.
As Christians, we must not allow ourselves to justify and embrace this sin (or any other) like the world seems so bent on doing today, because if we do not continue to tell people what the truth/God's truth actually is, then no one will!!
God bless you!!
~Deut
1 Corinthians 13
6 [Love] does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.
Ephesians 4
14 We will no longer be immature like children. We will not be tossed and blown about by every wind of new teaching. We will not be influenced when people try to trick us with lies so clever that they sound like the truth.
15 Instead, we will speak the truth in love, growing in every way more and more like Christ, who is the head of his body, the church.
1 Peter 3
15 Sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.
I actually it may progress to worse some day, but so long as there is still resistance, the LGBQ issue will remain the battleground. Once they have conquered that one, I kinda shudder to think what may come next. But I liked your Spurgeon quote. Regardless of how bad it gets and how intrusive the movement becomes, we must not look at it as if we are being victimized but as an opportunity to shine the Light, even if we should be hated, shamed and ridiculed for doing so.
God bless, and thanks again for the post.
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Greetings, Eli.
I've heard similar arguments, but to me they always seem come off as a means of justifying homosexuality on the basis of "we all sin, so why be judgmental." Granted, that may not be what you actually teach, but I sometimes wonder if such arguments are generated from seeing examples of extremely judgmental conduct towards gays and lesbians, at the exclusion of other sins, so now some people are trying to over-compensate for it.
I don't condone any sin - adultery, murder, stealing, lying, etc. - but I see this as THEE battleground issue that the powers that be will attempt to use to silence the gospel, so I think defending is a bit shortsighted on the part of genuine Bible-believing Christians, no matter what the grounds or justifications might be. We need to love the sinner but hate the sin, and certainly if we have shown any favoritism or hypocrisy that needs to be confronted and dealt with as well. But how much we are willing to take a stand on THIS particular issue may determine whether we stand or fall as Christians, not only individually but as a church.
God bless,
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I've heard similar arguments, but to me they always seem come off as a means of justifying homosexuality on the basis of "we all sin, so why be judgmental." Granted, that may not be what you actually teach, but I sometimes wonder if such arguments are generated from seeing examples of extremely judgmental conduct towards gays and lesbians, at the exclusion of other sins, so now some people are trying to over-compensate for it.
I don't condone any sin - adultery, murder, stealing, lying, etc. - but I see this as THEE battleground issue that the powers that be will attempt to use to silence the gospel, so I think defending is a bit shortsighted on the part of genuine Bible-believing Christians, no matter what the grounds or justifications might be. We need to love the sinner but hate the sin, and certainly if we have shown any favoritism or hypocrisy that needs to be confronted and dealt with as well. But how much we are willing to take a stand on THIS particular issue may determine whether we stand or fall as Christians, not only individually but as a church.
God bless,
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I'm diametrically opposed to all sorts of sexual perversion, whether heterosexual or homosexual in nature, but I'd heavily suggest to you that these sexual sins themselves aren't always the real battleground. In other words, there is very often some deep underlying issue which leads people into such lifestyles, and, in accordance with my own personal experience with/observation of sexual offenders, I'd heavily suggest to you that it is normally some form of REJECTION.
For example, my friend's son has actually undergone a sex change operation, and he is married to a lesbian now (meditate on that for a moment). In his case, he was the oldest of two children, with the other child being his sister, and he often lamented in his childhood that his parents loved his sister more than they loved him. He oftentimes said that he wished he had been born a girl. Well, now, in some twisted way, he is one.
My children have many male friends or classmates who classify as being "gay".
My first question to my children is always this:
What's his relationship with his father like?
I can honestly say that in 100% of the situations with these specific people there is a broken relationship between the father and his son.
In fact, not too long ago, at a previous job, I was talking to an unbeliever about these types of things. At that job, we had a female manager who was not only a lesbian, but she was/still is married to a woman. Well, one day at start-up she decided to tell us a little bit about her background. Turns out that her father was a Marine, and he apparently told her during her entire childhood that he wished that he had had a son instead of a daughter. Well, now, in some twisted way, he pretty much does.
I could go on and on.
There was a popular song when I was growing up called "Looking for love in all the wrong places", and I honestly believe that this is precisely what many of these people are doing. In other words, having been rejected in regard to normal relationships, they simply seek "love" and acceptance elsewhere.
Anyhow, with people like this, there's always some room for compassion while never condoning the sin itself.
For example, my friend's son has actually undergone a sex change operation, and he is married to a lesbian now (meditate on that for a moment). In his case, he was the oldest of two children, with the other child being his sister, and he often lamented in his childhood that his parents loved his sister more than they loved him. He oftentimes said that he wished he had been born a girl. Well, now, in some twisted way, he is one.
My children have many male friends or classmates who classify as being "gay".
My first question to my children is always this:
What's his relationship with his father like?
I can honestly say that in 100% of the situations with these specific people there is a broken relationship between the father and his son.
In fact, not too long ago, at a previous job, I was talking to an unbeliever about these types of things. At that job, we had a female manager who was not only a lesbian, but she was/still is married to a woman. Well, one day at start-up she decided to tell us a little bit about her background. Turns out that her father was a Marine, and he apparently told her during her entire childhood that he wished that he had had a son instead of a daughter. Well, now, in some twisted way, he pretty much does.
I could go on and on.
There was a popular song when I was growing up called "Looking for love in all the wrong places", and I honestly believe that this is precisely what many of these people are doing. In other words, having been rejected in regard to normal relationships, they simply seek "love" and acceptance elsewhere.
Anyhow, with people like this, there's always some room for compassion while never condoning the sin itself.
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Adults will do what adults will do, and they’ll bear the consequence of their actions. What I find particularly revolting is that children are being corrupted by such evil behaviour, and that our stupid nations‘ peoples have normalised same sex marriages and made them an acceptable standard, even allowing same sex couples to adopt children. I feel sorry for the kids. I can’t imagine how angry God must be.
I could be wrong, but if God isn’t considering calling time’s up on the world in the near future, for the sake of protecting innocent children from the corruption and suffering they are experiencing at the hands of morally evil adults, I wouldn’t be surprised if He doesn’t cause much of the world to be brought low, and many of human kind down and out, and soon!
I could be wrong, but if God isn’t considering calling time’s up on the world in the near future, for the sake of protecting innocent children from the corruption and suffering they are experiencing at the hands of morally evil adults, I wouldn’t be surprised if He doesn’t cause much of the world to be brought low, and many of human kind down and out, and soon!
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Well, perhaps if more professing Christians had some "testicular fortitude" (a nice way of saying some "balls"), then they would press back against such laws and practices.
John the Baptist spoke out against Herod's "marriage" to his brother's wife, and it literally cost him his head.
What cost are we willing to endure for the gospel's sake?
Most "Christians" I've met can hardly get off their couch...unless, of course, they're running to some form of entertainment.
Look at all of the "game" threads here, for example.
Is THIS why Jesus died for us?
So we can sit around playing games while the harvest perishes in the field?
Oh, my.
I've done it, again.
Bad, bad me.
Calling Christians to actually live for Christ.
John the Baptist spoke out against Herod's "marriage" to his brother's wife, and it literally cost him his head.
What cost are we willing to endure for the gospel's sake?
Most "Christians" I've met can hardly get off their couch...unless, of course, they're running to some form of entertainment.
Look at all of the "game" threads here, for example.
Is THIS why Jesus died for us?
So we can sit around playing games while the harvest perishes in the field?
Oh, my.
I've done it, again.
Bad, bad me.
Calling Christians to actually live for Christ.
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Like the rest of us, they can repent and start walking towards God. Some have and some will.
I know they can be militant. Some are actually civilized and realize the need to live and let live. But it appears that Satan knows his time is short and is in blitzkrieg mode. My hope in all this is that in 20 years I'll be done here.
In the meantime, I need to stand my ground and keep my message firm and fair.
"for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." - Romans 3:23
I know they can be militant. Some are actually civilized and realize the need to live and let live. But it appears that Satan knows his time is short and is in blitzkrieg mode. My hope in all this is that in 20 years I'll be done here.
In the meantime, I need to stand my ground and keep my message firm and fair.
"for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." - Romans 3:23