Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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Poll's in a thread are sort of puzzling in that if one vote's at the beginning then there is proof that they had their mind up before the discussion began and were not willing to listen. Should I vote now or wait and consider the things the other posters say on the matter?
I believe you can vote now the way you feel right now and change your mind later If you want before the poll closes.
 

Eli1

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The Bible is not an engineering book. It’s a relationship book to our Creator..
 

Eli1

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I watched part of a documentary on Netflix about flat earthers. Their numbers have grown
-as has been commented on by @Eli1 and possibly others- due to the rise of social media.
I only watched part of the documentary, up to the point where the flat earthers' attempts to
prove their theories failed one after the other. At the same time they pooh-pooh conventional
science, they borrow heavily from those very same scientists for data. Kind of funny, really...
Yes I’ve seen a few members here do that. They try to talk like scientists with their reasoning while defending a ridiculous idea.
It’s funny and sad at the same time. Sad, because these people are too far gone to have a reasonable discussion and even more sad when you learn that some of them have died trying to prove the flat earth.

Here‘s one example : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655
 

PennEd

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What evidence is there that is actually credible and proves beyond a doubt that the moon landing was staged? I heard a lot of theories, but nothing that is actual
Just a couple bullet points:

1. Open and shut for me is the Van Allen radiation belts. I can pull up a lot of the videos I’ll reference in these points if you like. A Fairly recent NASA info video of themselves saying they have to solve the problem of going through the intense radiation belts BEFORE they can send people to the moon, Mars, and beyond. (A video of this is available) Nothing can survive going through them. That alone should do it, but there’s a mountain more evidence. And yes, I’ve seen the rebuttal videos on this which imo are trash.

2. They put a thick lead apron on you at the dentist office when they take an X-ray. The technician stands in a protective booth. Yet a the astronauts were somehow protected from radiation by a few millimeters of Mylar and foil while walking in the sunlight of the moon!

3. In about 50 years we went from the Wright brothers flying a few hundred yards a bit off the earth’s surface, to a rocket ship taking men to the moon. We haven’t been back in almost 50 years. At the rate of technological advances in the latter 50 years, you’d think by now, We’d be out of our Solar System! Every US President from Carter on, has said we’re going back “within a couple yrs” of when they said it. Including Trump. But they keep pushing back the date.

4. When a NASA official was asked several years ago why we haven’t been back, he jaw droppingly said “ We lost the technology we had to be able to go, and rebuilding the technology will take time” ( a video of this is available)

5. When a space shuttle got too close to the Van Allen radiation belts the occupants experienced severe retina burns. The name of that shuttle escapes me now. But I can check later.

There is tons more, but I’ll leave you to think about these and post Buzz Aldrin finally admitting they didn’t go:


https://www.brighteon.com/d2f52b64-8760-474e-a188-824ebf602d48
 

PennEd

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Just a couple bullet points:

1. Open and shut for me is the Van Allen radiation belts. I can pull up a lot of the videos I’ll reference in these points if you like. A Fairly recent NASA info video of themselves saying they have to solve the problem of going through the intense radiation belts BEFORE they can send people to the moon, Mars, and beyond. (A video of this is available) Nothing can survive going through them. That alone should do it, but there’s a mountain more evidence. And yes, I’ve seen the rebuttal videos on this which imo are trash.

2. They put a thick lead apron on you at the dentist office when they take an X-ray. The technician stands in a protective booth. Yet a the astronauts were somehow protected from radiation by a few millimeters of Mylar and foil while walking in the sunlight of the moon!

3. In about 50 years we went from the Wright brothers flying a few hundred yards a bit off the earth’s surface, to a rocket ship taking men to the moon. We haven’t been back in almost 50 years. At the rate of technological advances in the latter 50 years, you’d think by now, We’d be out of our Solar System! Every US President from Carter on, has said we’re going back “within a couple yrs” of when they said it. Including Trump. But they keep pushing back the date.

4. When a NASA official was asked several years ago why we haven’t been back, he jaw droppingly said “ We lost the technology we had to be able to go, and rebuilding the technology will take time” ( a video of this is available)

5. When a space shuttle got too close to the Van Allen radiation belts the occupants experienced severe retina burns. The name of that shuttle escapes me now. But I can check later.

There is tons more, but I’ll leave you to think about these and post Buzz Aldrin finally admitting they didn’t go:


https://www.brighteon.com/d2f52b64-8760-474e-a188-824ebf602d48
Just this past week, NASA has threatened an auction company that tried to sell moon dust and cockroaches that were supposedly used to see if moon rocks would bring some extraterrestrial disease to Earth.

Why the heck would NASA care now?

Probably wants to avoid ANOTHER embarrassing discovery from one of their earlier lies:

SPACE‘Moon rock’ in museum is just petrified wood
The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32581790
 

GaryA

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What evidence is there that is actually credible and proves beyond a doubt that the moon landing was staged? I heard a lot of theories, but nothing that is actual
This raises the question:

"How do you define 'credible'?"

If your idea of 'credible' is something declared by NASA (and/or other government agencies) and/or the MSM (if you trust them and depend on them for truth), you will never, ever, ever see any evidence.

But, if your idea of 'credible' involves personal common sense and research - and "stepping outside of the box" - and, putting things together to see how they do not make any sense - there is a ton of evidence...

The reason for all of this - you are being lied to - and have been all of your life.

Thus, this statement is a matter of truth:

"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they have been taught."

(Author Unknown)

You have been lied to about every single major event in history (especially the past 100 years) - the moon landing, 9/11, and COVID - just to name a few.

Anyone unwilling to do the reasearch (or believe someone who has) is just a sheeple trapped in the MATRIX.

Yes, it is really that bad. The question is - would you rather be more knowledgable about and understand what is going on in the world - or, just be in the dark and manipulated by the evil powers that be?

Many/Most people take the blue pill and go back to sleep - every day.

You only have to take the red pill once.

Do the research.
 

Gideon300

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This raises the question:

"How do you define 'credible'?"

If your idea of 'credible' is something declared by NASA (and/or other government agencies) and/or the MSM (if you trust them and depend on them for truth), you will never, ever, ever see any evidence.

But, if your idea of 'credible' involves personal common sense and research - and "stepping outside of the box" - and, putting things together to see how they do not make any sense - there is a ton of evidence...

The reason for all of this - you are being lied to - and have been all of your life.

Thus, this statement is a matter of truth:

"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they have been taught."

(Author Unknown)

You have been lied to about every single major event in history (especially the past 100 years) - the moon landing, 9/11, and COVID - just to name a few.

Anyone unwilling to do the reasearch (or believe someone who has) is just a sheeple trapped in the MATRIX.

Yes, it is really that bad. The question is - would you rather be more knowledgable about and understand what is going on in the world - or, just be in the dark and manipulated by the evil powers that be?

Many/Most people take the blue pill and go back to sleep - every day.

You only have to take the red pill once.

Do the research.
I live in the southern hemisphere. Flat Earth theories are patently absurd. Cyclones in the southern hemisphere rotate in the opposite direction to the northern hemisphere. This is due to the Coriolis effect. If there was only a flat earth, storms would rotate in the same direction wherever they were on the earth's surface. Of course, there may be a secret task force with huge blowers that force wind to reverse direction and so give a false impression. The same with the pigs that fly upside down to give an impression of a southern hemisphere.

I've done the research. The earth is a globe.
 
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This raises the question:

"How do you define 'credible'?"

If your idea of 'credible' is something declared by NASA (and/or other government agencies) and/or the MSM (if you trust them and depend on them for truth), you will never, ever, ever see any evidence.

But, if your idea of 'credible' involves personal common sense and research - and "stepping outside of the box" - and, putting things together to see how they do not make any sense - there is a ton of evidence...

The reason for all of this - you are being lied to - and have been all of your life.

Thus, this statement is a matter of truth:

"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they have been taught."

(Author Unknown)

You have been lied to about every single major event in history (especially the past 100 years) - the moon landing, 9/11, and COVID - just to name a few.

Anyone unwilling to do the reasearch (or believe someone who has) is just a sheeple trapped in the MATRIX.

Yes, it is really that bad. The question is - would you rather be more knowledgable about and understand what is going on in the world - or, just be in the dark and manipulated by the evil powers that be?

Many/Most people take the blue pill and go back to sleep - every day.

You only have to take the red pill once.

Do the research.
There are no red or blue pills to check a persons perception of reality. That was a movie. I do research. It's kinda my thing actually.

People do the research. If the research they do, is in conflict with what you have done, it becomes fake?

SMH
 

PennEd

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Buzz never said he did not go to the moon. What he actually said, was that CBS did a simulation because they did not go to the moon.

While TV crews did not have access to the moon, Aldrin and Armstrong did. Here’s a photograph of Aldrin on the surface of the moon that was taken by Armstrong.



check out this article with regards to Buzz supposedly saying the moon landing was fake
Well, if you are referring to my post, where I said he said he didn't go, it has NOTHING to do with Conan O'brien.

Scroll up and watch the clip. It is clear he just couldn't take the lying anymore. Especially to a little girl.


Think of the absurdity of this statement this NASA guy says when asked why we haven't gone back:

 
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1. Open and shut for me is the Van Allen radiation belts. I can pull up a lot of the videos I’ll reference in these points if you like. A Fairly recent NASA info video of themselves saying they have to solve the problem of going through the intense radiation belts BEFORE they can send people to the moon, Mars, and beyond. (A video of this is available) Nothing can survive going through them. That alone should do it, but there’s a mountain more evidence. And yes, I’ve seen the rebuttal videos on this which imo are trash.
Do you think you can supply that video please? I, for one, would like to see and hear it.

I can supply bunches of info on how to deal with the belts and they do not completely cover the earth and they fluctuate. Further, it would take prolonged amounts of exposure to kill a person.

A little astrophysical info in this article, but don't fret. So much more available if a person researches without a conspiratorial POV

You can't just make broad and all encompassing statements as though some final conclusion had been reached because you said so. When I am using the pronoun here, you, I am referring to anyone who presented their list as you did.

Does anyone here really want to read all this technical info and then delve into whether or not it is false? I seriously doubt it.

Their sizes change depending on solar activity and, sometimes, on how we model them. The inner belt starts at an altitude of 600-1,600 km, according to different sources, and extends till 9,600-13,000 km. The range of the outer belt varies similarly: from 13,500-19,000 km to about 40,000 km.

There is a gap between these belts called the slot region, which is generally devoid of energetic particles. Sometimes, a third, transient appears in this region. Geosynchronous communications satellites orbit just inside the outer edge of the outer radiation belt, and the low-Earth orbit (LEO), where the International Space Station and the Hubble space telescope are, is just below the inner edge of the inner belt.

The radiation belts are not the only structures surrounding Earth. Starting from about 1,000 km, at the very edge of the inner radiation belt, and partially pushing into the outer belt, there is a cloud of charged particles called the plasmasphere. This is yet another layer of protection Earth has against space radiation. Electrons nearly at lightspeed in the outer belt move laterally along the magnetic field lines around Earth; a plasmasphere phenomenon called the plasmaspheric hiss – which is very low-frequency (VLF) electromagnetic waves – prevents them from moving down closer to Earth. This VLF hiss results in part from atmospheric lightning and in another part from ground-based transmitters communicating with submarines (Fig. 1).
 

PennEd

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I guess no one at NASA is telling their guys that weren't even born when we supposedly went to the moon that we did!

 
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Well, if you are referring to my post, where I said he said he didn't go, it has NOTHING to do with Conan O'brien.

Scroll up and watch the clip. It is clear he just couldn't take the lying anymore. Especially to a little girl.


Think of the absurdity of this statement this NASA guy says when asked why we haven't gone back:

The child video is included in that article. Research it. :) You did not actually take much time with the article I linked to, so do not tell others to research when you missed it. I am not arguing. I prefer facts and that is all I am presenting. The fact is, you thought I did not watch the clip with the child, but I did.

I watched that clip. I would not be satisfied with a video like that, concerning a subject of all encompassing enormity as the shape of this planet. Really.
 
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Everybody is an armchair astrophysicist it seems and good thing for youtube or none of us would ever be the wiser :rolleyes:

Anyway, I am not wasting anymore of my time in this thread. Y'all can argue about whether the earth is a platter or saucer or beach ball till the cows come home.

It's been done and I am satisfied it's a beach ball more or less.