Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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Grabs popcorn, lol. Always intrigues me how anyone would think it flat. But hey, just pray you flat earthers don't fall off the edge, lol. Sorry, just being silly.
I’m waiting for someone to talk about the firmament.
It's 2022,,,why speculate, book a flight and fly around it like the rest of us and see for yourself...
The earth in 3 or 4 dimensions is an oblate spheroid. Depending on what plane you measure it may or may not be round.
In lower or higher dimensions we need different words.
In lower or higher dimensions we need different words.
Flat and round are not in conflict, since coins are flat and round. However, flat or spherical/globular would be in contrast to each other. The earth is a globe, and the sundial of Hezekiah in the Bible proves this.
How so?
Did the earth stop rotating - go backwards - then forwards again - just to move the shadow on a sundial back 10 degrees?
How did all of that happen without anyone feeling/sensing/noticing it?
Do not allow that which is falsely called knowledge to destroy you.
Either faith gives you the freedom to believe God or there is no faith.
Either faith gives you the freedom to believe God or there is no faith.
It is a Globe, of course. The Prophet Isaiah said this, and the Lord Jesus Himself confirmed it when He said He would be in the "Heart of the Earth" for 3 days. The Heart of the Earth is the Center of the Globe.
Isa 40:22: "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in."
Mat 12:40: "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Isa 40:22: "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in."
Mat 12:40: "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Will/Would it actually make any difference to anyone?
Until folks are willing to suspend their belief system long enough to 'hear' what the Bible actually says about it - it just remains a vague covered-over ignored detail in the creation story.
In Genesis 1:
~ the firmament separates water above it from water below it
~ God placed the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament
~ the birds fly in the firmament
This should be enough to get folks to thinking about just exactly what the firmament is and its significance in the big scheme of things.
Each of the three things in the list above is stated very plainly and directly in scripture.
Now, put the three together and consider it carefully.
God "hung" the sun, moon, and stars in the same "space" within which the birds fly.
The firmament includes the first heaven - and, possibly, the second heaven - depending on your POV concerning where the first heaven and second heaven meet.
False on both accounts.
You are making unfounded assumptions.
The 'circle of the earth' is not [necessarily] the silhouette of a sphere.
The 'heart' of the earth is not [necessarily] the center of a sphere.
Have you paid any attention to the rest of the Isaiah verse you quoted?
And, it must be faith and not logic that discerns the truth of scripture.
"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they have been taught."
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I think it is flat largely due to what scripture says about it. (indications and illustrations from scripture)
The Greek word for heart is καρδίᾳ (kardia). It means the center or middle. If the earth is flat, hell is not the center of the earth. A Global Earth with hell in the core or centre of the earth makes more sense.
Please read this Wiki article on the History of the Myth of the Flat Earth: "Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[6] ...
In Inventing the Flat Earth: Columbus and Modern Historians, Jeffrey Russell describes the Flat Earth theory as a fable used to impugn pre-modern civilization and creationism.[7][2]
James Hannam wrote:
The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the Earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper's History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White's A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896). Atheists and agnostics championed the conflict thesis for their own purposes, but historical research gradually demonstrated that Draper and White had propagated more fantasy than fact in their efforts to prove that science and religion are locked in eternal conflict.[9]"
Taken from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_EarthGod Bless.
If the earth is flat we would not see it going from day to night and night to day the way we see it.
If the sun is always above the surface of the earth then there has to be a separation between light and dark because it is not always light and it is not always dark.
That means when it is light in our area we would see the darkness coming but it would still be light in our area and when the darkness passes through our area we would see the light moving away from us until it is gone.
And when it is dark in our area we would see the light coming but it would be dark in our area and the light would pass through our area and the darkness would move away from us until it is gone.
But on a globe when the sun goes down it is dark as far as our eye can see and when the sun comes up it is light as far as our eye can see.
We do not see the darkness chasing the light and the light chasing the dark.
They believe because the Bible says the 4 corners of the earth that the earth is a flat circle.
Psalms 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD'S name is to be praised.
If the sun is always above the surface of the earth on a flat earth how is it going up or down.
If the earth if flat it would seem like we would be pulled to the middle of the earth but on a round earth no matter where you stand you have the same amount of earth under you so gravity keeps us in place.
If the sun is always above the surface of the earth then there has to be a separation between light and dark because it is not always light and it is not always dark.
That means when it is light in our area we would see the darkness coming but it would still be light in our area and when the darkness passes through our area we would see the light moving away from us until it is gone.
And when it is dark in our area we would see the light coming but it would be dark in our area and the light would pass through our area and the darkness would move away from us until it is gone.
But on a globe when the sun goes down it is dark as far as our eye can see and when the sun comes up it is light as far as our eye can see.
We do not see the darkness chasing the light and the light chasing the dark.
They believe because the Bible says the 4 corners of the earth that the earth is a flat circle.
Psalms 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD'S name is to be praised.
If the sun is always above the surface of the earth on a flat earth how is it going up or down.
If the earth if flat it would seem like we would be pulled to the middle of the earth but on a round earth no matter where you stand you have the same amount of earth under you so gravity keeps us in place.
Any 3D shape - having length, width, and height/depth - has a center. It does not have to be a sphere for it to have a center.
Do you realize that wikipedia is one of Satan's best and most effective truth-altering tools in existence today?
I most certainly would never trust it for guidance on how to interpret scripture.
You need to educate yourself on the circuit of the sun in the Flat Earth model.
(Because, you do not yet understand it properly.)
There are plenty of videos to watch to accomplish this.
The light of the sun has a limited extent, due to 'perspective' and atmospheric obstruction.
