As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

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And this is exactly what we are seeing at the moment. Instead of angels going after "strange flesh" we have humans reveling in LGBTQ, and doing their utmost to corrupt Pre-Kindergarten and Kindergarten kids. This has never happened before, and there will be severe judgment.

4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

These vile perverts, if they were here today, would be right out there marching with the rest of the LGBT's, committing unspeakable acts, carrying their rainbow flags, wearing women's clothes, and corrupting the kids. It was actually the Sodomites, mentioned in the Book of Jude, who were "going after strange flesh". Say it ain't so.
 

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Three groups of Old Testament Sinners are mentioned in Jude:
#1 God kicked the angels out of Heaven. Why? Because they wanted power and glory to themselves. They "despised dominion".
#2. The Israelites repeatedly murmured against Moses and Aaron and gave him a hard time. They "spake evil of diginities"
#3. The vile Sodomites left off God's intention for sexuality and practiced unspeakable perversions. They "went after strange flesh"

It is specifically addressing New Testament sinners who are committing all three of those sins. That's what it is talking about.
 

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Yes.

And it's probably a good time to refresh the end of post one now.

When this thread was started, there was at least two other Gen 6 or Nephilim threads going on. Thus I found the need to make this one different:

Post 1

So first I'll lay out SOME of the vast Biblical proof that fallen angels DID mate with human women producing the Nephillim, hybrid race, the ALSO AFTERWARD, and the CORRUPTED flesh.
Then talk about how we are committing the same sin that they did.

But I will NOT be doing much, if any, debating with those that either can't, or won't accept the plain Biblical truth about fallen angels. That is not speculative. I will be doing some speculation, but that fact is not. If there are honest, skeptical questions fine. But otherwise I'd recommend just scrolling on by.
The Bible says they took "wives". A "wife" is a substantially more permanent relationship than a simple "mating" wouldn't you say?
Not only that, but "he that findeth a wife" "finds a good thing" and "obtains favor of the Lord". Simple "mating"? I had an old pastor, who believed as you do, and he would always proclaim that those angels "cohabited with women". The Bible says they "took wives".
 

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Off beat goofy ungodly distortion of the Scripture most often has some ungodly sex as one of it tenets .
 

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Off beat goofy ungodly distortion of the Scripture most often has some ungodly sex as one of it tenets .
That would seem to be at least a secondary factor in this case. My old pastor would tell this crazy story, dare anyone to disagree with him and even say, in so many words, that he interpreted the Bible more correctly than anyone else; yet he actually would quote on a number of occasions that angels "cohabited" with women. The Bible says they "took them wives". Would a 'fallen angel" which is basically a satanic demon-being get married and have a "wife" anyway? I guess that would be the understanding so, we'll just call it "cohabit" LOL. I have to thank my old pastor for one thing, He got me interested in really studying my Bible with this one passage of scripture. Since then I've studied it a lot more.
 

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The operating law of procreation was first mentioned in Genesis.

11Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, andthe fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13So the evening and the morning were the third day.”

This principle of “seed within itself” extends to Christ Himself. This is why, even with universal demonic activity, the progeny of the living remain within their species.

Angels having sex and producing aberrant offspring is garbage theology. Those who believe it are vulnerable to racist ideologies and conspiracy theories built on fear. But here’s the rub: you cannot reason with them because they are not honest with themselves: pretending to by wise while sheltering prejudices that are nothing like the character of the Lord.

This is my last word on the issue. If you are offended by this then search yourself: having offense means you are easily unravelled.
 

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The operating law of procreation was first mentioned in Genesis.

11Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, andthe fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13So the evening and the morning were the third day.”

This principle of “seed within itself” extends to Christ Himself. This is why, even with universal demonic activity, the progeny of the living remain within their species.

Angels having sex and producing aberrant offspring is garbage theology. Those who believe it are vulnerable to racist ideologies and conspiracy theories built on fear. But here’s the rub: you cannot reason with them because they are not honest with themselves: pretending to by wise while sheltering prejudices that are nothing like the character of the Lord.

This is my last word on the issue. If you are offended by this then search yourself: having offense means you are easily unravelled.
With this ridiculous post I’m sure glad it’s your last here!

My goodness. These guys literally write not only the reason God had to destroy the world, but the reason Jude and Peter say the angels that committed these heinous sins are in Tartarus RIGHT NOW, and somehow can’t see it!

If God destroyed the world because of sins like adultery, hate, drunkenness, murder, etc… then we better ALL start building an ark!

Those sins started right back up again about 5 seconds after they exited the Ark, up until this very minute.

Nope. There was a specific sin that God couldn’t tolerate that we are more than starting to do again. Corrupting on a genetic level His Creation.
 

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With this ridiculous post I’m sure glad it’s your last here!

My goodness. These guys literally write not only the reason God had to destroy the world, but the reason Jude and Peter say the angels that committed these heinous sins are in Tartarus RIGHT NOW, and somehow can’t see it!

If God destroyed the world because of sins like adultery, hate, drunkenness, murder, etc… then we better ALL start building an ark!

Those sins started right back up again about 5 seconds after they exited the Ark, up until this very minute.

Nope. There was a specific sin that God couldn’t tolerate that we are more than starting to do again. Corrupting on a genetic level His Creation.
Once again, it says He did it because:
The wickedness of man was great.
It implies neither a genetic reason nor a corrupt genetic result. God did it because mankind was wicked, end of story.
 

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Matthew 24: 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Why did God utterly destroy, and wipe clean the entire world He created, and everything in it, save Noah, his family, and the selected animals aboard the Ark?

To answer this question we have to closely examine Genesis 6, the fallen angels that mated with human women, their progeny the Nephilim, and the proclamation 4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWARD,..

So why do I believe this issue is so important? Because Jesus said in the end days things would be like in the days of Noah. I contend that we are living in the end days, and are doing the same things that that led God to destroy the world.

Matthew 24: 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved;

So first I'll lay out SOME of the vast Biblical proof that fallen angels DID mate with human women producing the Nephillim, hybrid race, the ALSO AFTERWARD, and the CORRUPTED flesh.
Then talk about how we are committing the same sin that they did.

But I will NOT be doing much, if any, debating with those that either can't, or won't accept the plain Biblical truth about fallen angels. That is not speculative. I will be doing some speculation, but that fact is not. If there are honest, skeptical questions fine. But otherwise I'd recommend just scrolling on by.
I am fully on board with that thesis. Pardon the pun.

For those with an inquiring, mind I would urge you to study the work of Brien Foerster on Youtube regarding the Paracas Peru skulls. Superb in-depth analysis of the aberrant morphology and anatomy. The authentic Paracas skulls are IMO undoubtedly nonhuman/hybrid. And the authentic skulls are probably only 2-3000 years old.
 

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but the reason Jude and Peter say the angels that committed these heinous sins are in Tartarus RIGHT NOW
Totally agree. I have yet to see any way around that succinct conclusion. Bound in chains is an extremely specific punishment. Tartarus is an extremely specific place. These parameters are only exhibited/expressed for one specific class beings......fallen Angels.
 

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The operating law of procreation was first mentioned in Genesis.

11Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, andthe fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13So the evening and the morning were the third day.”

This principle of “seed within itself” extends to Christ Himself. This is why, even with universal demonic activity, the progeny of the living remain within their species.

Angels having sex and producing aberrant offspring is garbage theology. Those who believe it are vulnerable to racist ideologies and conspiracy theories built on fear. But here’s the rub: you cannot reason with them because they are not honest with themselves: pretending to by wise while sheltering prejudices that are nothing like the character of the Lord.

This is my last word on the issue. If you are offended by this then search yourself: having offense means you are easily unravelled.

since you have forgotten, please read carefully from the book of enoch below;

CHAPTER VI.

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answered

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him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. 8. These are their chiefs of tens.

CHAPTER VII.

1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

need more? please research the skeletons of giants many were found but suppressed. They were presumably destroyed. Evil does not want you to know it exists, Evil entities want you to think it is all fairy tales but it is not.


JF
 

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since you have forgotten, please read carefully from the book of enoch below;

CHAPTER VI.

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answered

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him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. 8. These are their chiefs of tens.

CHAPTER VII.

1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

need more? please research the skeletons of giants many were found but suppressed. They were presumably destroyed. Evil does not want you to know it exists, Evil entities want you to think it is all fairy tales but it is not.


JF
BTW.......The best scholarship indicates that Enoch 7:2 (where it specifies the height of the Nephilim as 3000 ells......an absurd 4500 feet) is in fact a copyist error. A very understandable error in the Ethioptic text. On the other hand the Greek text does NOT have this error. And neither did the first century Christians.

What that verse actually saying is that there were three different RACES of giants. No height is expressed or implied....!
 

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BTW.......The best scholarship indicates that Enoch 7:2 (where it specifies the height of the Nephilim as 3000 ells......an absurd 4500 feet) is in fact a copyist error. A very understandable error in the Ethioptic text. On the other hand the Greek text does NOT have this error. And neither did the first century Christians.

What that verse actually saying is that there were three different RACES of giants. No height is expressed or implied....!
Thanks for the info, the largest skeleton they found was from memory about 30 feet high? scary stuff...I am glad they no longer exist.

Also i know it is very hard to find any info on the internet about giants, but a good library might still have old journals clippings about these findings, some of them were fake but some I believe were accurate.

Blessings,

JF
 

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since you have forgotten, please read carefully from the book of enoch below;

CHAPTER VI.

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answered

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him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. 8. These are their chiefs of tens.

CHAPTER VII.

1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

need more? please research the skeletons of giants many were found but suppressed. They were presumably destroyed. Evil does not want you to know it exists, Evil entities want you to think it is all fairy tales but it is not.


JF
Well fee fi fo fum why are we reading scr
I am fully on board with that thesis. Pardon the pun.

For those with an inquiring, mind I would urge you to study the work of Brien Foerster on Youtube regarding the Paracas Peru skulls. Superb in-depth analysis of the aberrant morphology and anatomy. The authentic Paracas skulls are IMO undoubtedly nonhuman/hybrid. And the authentic skulls are probably only 2-3000 years old.
The deformed skulls in Peru are the result of cranial binding. These poor, ignorant folks would continually squash their infants soft heads on flat boards until they ended up deformed for the rest of their miserable lives. Now, modern ignorant folks fantasize that these poor unfortunate souls were giants or aliens.
 

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Well fee fi fo fum why are we reading scr

The deformed skulls in Peru are the result of cranial binding. These poor, ignorant folks would continually squash their infants soft heads on flat boards until they ended up deformed for the rest of their miserable lives. Now, modern ignorant folks fantasize that these poor unfortunate souls were giants or aliens.
Wrong. Study the topic properly. It will take at least 10 or 20 hours to do so.

The authentic skulls are definitely nonhuman hybrid. I have seen the superb reconstructions that have been accomplished. If you saw a authentic Paracas walking down the street you would panic.....then call a cop, the FBI and a ambulance. They are that far from being human.

The head biding was put in place LATER as a technique to make humans LOOK more like the original royal Paracas caste. Mimicry being both flattery and power grabbing. Yes there was probably interbreeding with humans that watered down the traits.......which is why they started head blinding. Which the culture continued to do with practically normal humans. The differences between these 2 types of authentic and synthetic skulls are manifestly obvious.

On another note there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that so-called Bigfoot/Sasquatch are real living biological entities. The evidence is so voluminous, compelling and overwhelming that any opinion to the contrary is simply stupid or ignorant or willfully deceptive. And trust me when I tell you that there are Bigfoot literally everywhere in North America. Probably every state of the Union. There aren't that many but they are everywhere. Furthermore, the Patterson Gimlin film subject is unquestionably a young female Bigfoot specimen. Absolutely authentic beyond any shadow of a doubt.
 

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since you have forgotten, please read carefully from the book of enoch below;

CHAPTER VI.

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answered

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him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. 8. These are their chiefs of tens.

CHAPTER VII.

1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

need more? please research the skeletons of giants many were found but suppressed. They were presumably destroyed. Evil does not want you to know it exists, Evil entities want you to think it is all fairy tales but it is not.


JF
This is the jewish fable I referenced.
 

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With this ridiculous post I’m sure glad it’s your last here!

My goodness. These guys literally write not only the reason God had to destroy the world, but the reason Jude and Peter say the angels that committed these heinous sins are in Tartarus RIGHT NOW, and somehow can’t see it!

If God destroyed the world because of sins like adultery, hate, drunkenness, murder, etc… then we better ALL start building an ark!

Those sins started right back up again about 5 seconds after they exited the Ark, up until this very minute.

Nope. There was a specific sin that God couldn’t tolerate that we are more than starting to do again. Corrupting on a genetic level His Creation.
Just the last in this thread. :)
 

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Matthew 24: 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Why did God utterly destroy, and wipe clean the entire world He created, and everything in it, save Noah, his family, and the selected animals aboard the Ark?

To answer this question we have to closely examine Genesis 6, the fallen angels that mated with human women, their progeny the Nephilim, and the proclamation 4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWARD,..

So why do I believe this issue is so important? Because Jesus said in the end days things would be like in the days of Noah. I contend that we are living in the end days, and are doing the same things that that led God to destroy the world.

Matthew 24: 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved;

So first I'll lay out SOME of the vast Biblical proof that fallen angels DID mate with human women producing the Nephillim, hybrid race, the ALSO AFTERWARD, and the CORRUPTED flesh.
Then talk about how we are committing the same sin that they did.

But I will NOT be doing much, if any, debating with those that either can't, or won't accept the plain Biblical truth about fallen angels. That is not speculative. I will be doing some speculation, but that fact is not. If there are honest, skeptical questions fine. But otherwise I'd recommend just scrolling on by.
There is no denying that the angles left there place of habitation “Read the book of Jude” came to earth and had children with the daughters of man. My questions are, was the flood world wide, or just the area where the giants were? Even more important than that lets look at Noah; why did God chose Noah and his family?

English Standard Version
These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.

Berean Study Bible
This is the account of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation; Noah walked with God.

King James Bible
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

New King James Version
This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God.

New American Standard Bible
These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God

Why did God choose Noah? Noah was blameless, perfect, in his generation.

Definition of generation from the Webster dictionary :a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor.

Who started Noah's line? Genesis 5 gives you the line from Adam to Noah. A perfect line there was no enter marring an outsider. Yes the married sisters, brothers, cousins. They did not intermingle with the fallen angles, or the other races.
 

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There is no denying that the angles left there place of habitation “Read the book of Jude” came to earth and had children with the daughters of man. My questions are, was the flood world wide, or just the area where the giants were? Even more important than that lets look at Noah; why did God chose Noah and his family?

English Standard Version
These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.

Berean Study Bible
This is the account of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation; Noah walked with God.

King James Bible
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

New King James Version
This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God.

New American Standard Bible
These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God

Why did God choose Noah? Noah was blameless, perfect, in his generation.

Definition of generation from the Webster dictionary :a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor.

Who started Noah's line? Genesis 5 gives you the line from Adam to Noah. A perfect line there was no enter marring an outsider. Yes the married sisters, brothers, cousins. They did not intermingle with the fallen angles, or the other races.
The second part of your question is answered in the first couple of pages of the thread.

The first question can be answered HERE:


Genesis 9:11

New King James Version

11 Thus I establish My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.”


Well, if the Great Flood was only local, then God lied when He said never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth, because there have been an untold number of floods that have destroyed and killed millions over the centuries.

I don't think God lied. Therefore the Great Flood was worldwide, and destroyed everything except those on the Ark.
 

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Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

The text plainly says the children of the fallen angels and human women are the Nephilim. They were endowed with massive size and power. I believe the Greek Legends derive from these guys. Although I am not saying all that the Greek Legends say is accurate.

But it does mention "AND ALSO AFTWERWARD"...

So what comes also afterward? The text says the Giants, or Nephilim come after. After what? The flood.

Does this mean MORE fallen angels mate with women after the flood? I don't think so. Seems very unlikely, although possible. It appears not ALL the angels that fell with Satan committed this sin that Jude and Peter talk about. But they would have seen the immediate, incredibly harsh judgement, and place where those that did are kept. Tartarus!

The word is used only ONE time in Scripture, and in most translations is usually rendered as "hell". It's unfortunate because this confuses people. Most of the western world think of hell as the lake of fire. That word is Gehenna in the NT.

2 Peter 2:4 New King James Version (NKJV)
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell (TARTARUS) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

So what do we know about "Tartarus"? Really not too much. This from Wikipedia of all places:

In Greek mythology, Tartarus (/ˈtɑːrtərəs/; Ancient Greek: Τάρταρος, Tártaros)[1] is the deep abyss that is used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked and as the prison for the Titans. Tartarus is the place where, according to Plato's Gorgias (c. 400 BC), souls are judged after death and where the wicked received divine punishment. Tartarus is also considered to be a primordial force or deity alongside entities such as the Earth, Night, and Time.

This definition is not totally accurate. There is no Biblical proof that any humans went to Tartarus, Tartarus is not Hades/Sheol, but it's does paint an awful picture of where these particular fallen angels currently are.


The point is, the rest of the angels wouldn't want any part of that place.
Matthew 24: 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Why did God utterly destroy, and wipe clean the entire world He created, and everything in it, save Noah, his family, and the selected animals aboard the Ark?

To answer this question we have to closely examine Genesis 6, the fallen angels that mated with human women, their progeny the Nephilim, and the proclamation 4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWARD,..

So why do I believe this issue is so important? Because Jesus said in the end days things would be like in the days of Noah. I contend that we are living in the end days, and are doing the same things that that led God to destroy the world.

Matthew 24: 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved;

So first I'll lay out SOME of the vast Biblical proof that fallen angels DID mate with human women producing the Nephillim, hybrid race, the ALSO AFTERWARD, and the CORRUPTED flesh.
Then talk about how we are committing the same sin that they did.

But I will NOT be doing much, if any, debating with those that either can't, or won't accept the plain Biblical truth about fallen angels. That is not speculative. I will be doing some speculation, but that fact is not. If there are honest, skeptical questions fine. But otherwise I'd recommend just scrolling on by.
Genesis 6

17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. 18But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee. 19And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. 21And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them. 22Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.
The Basic Races of Humanity

~ Caucasoid
~ Mongoloid
~ Negroid
~ Australoid

along with their various sub-races (as a result of biological interaction of people belonging to different races) that can be seen on Earth at present.

The evolution of different human races is as old as the evolution of humanity as theorized by Charles Darwin. According to recent researches in the field of anthropology regarding the origin of mankind, it has been suggested that the human race may be older than originally thought. The following four races are the chief distinct classifications of humans based upon genetics and anthropology. However, we can see many sub-races as a result of matrimonial and reproductive interaction between people belonging to different races.

My wife and I like you and your wife are white. We had 4 children all 4 were of the Caucasoid race they are white. There is no way that my wife and I could have a any thing but, if we had 4, 40, or 400 children the race would stay the same. The same is true for you and your wife. God says He is unchanging so how could Adam and Eve have had children of all 4 basic races. Here is what I thank God told Noah Genesis 6.20 Two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. This would include 2 of the other 3 races God created on the 6th day. In Genesis 2:5 and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. So God created Adam after the 6th day creation. Then Genesis 2:21And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.