Praying for Satan. Can we? Should we?

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The truth is already known and was revealed, you just refuse to see the truth, Satan is toast! You mix nice words with lies, you are quite deceitful.

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I love you Jesusfollower. I really do and I'm perfectly ok with the conclusion you have come to. Enjoy your journey with our brother Jesus and I look forward to seeing you at home one day. What a great hope that is set before us.
You cannot become the brother to Jesus unless HE first becomes your LORD and Savior.
 
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Did you get this word by revelation from God directly? f so great. Please tell me more. I don't recall this written down by any of the contributors of the protestant bible book. But maybe I missed that one. Is it in the catholic bible or Ethiopian one which I haven't read with its 81 books?
YES, directly from God by the Power of the Holy Spirit thru the Scripture = same Way the Apostles received Truth.

"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
 

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Did you get this word by revelation from God directly? f so great. Please tell me more. I don't recall this written down by any of the contributors of the protestant bible book. But maybe I missed that one. Is it in the catholic bible or Ethiopian one which I haven't read with its 81 books?
I think you are trolling.
 
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In the Bible, Satan is the devil; that's the adversary.

There is evidence that it is better to not slander the devil according to Michael's example in Jude. Just say "The Lord rebuke thee." That's our biblical example for responding to the devil.

Should you pray for your enemies? Yes, but praying for the devil assumes the devil can be redeemed, however the devil can't be redeemed for it is written the devil will go to the lake of fire to experience the second death.

Jude 1:9
9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
 
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You technically can try, but it will never be answered. God cursed the serpent for a reason, there is absolutely zero hope for Satan, he will never be redeemed, he will be slain and thrown into the Lake of Fire and all his kingdom of deceived deceivers will go with him, in Jesus name, amen.
 

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Did you get this word by revelation from God directly? f so great. Please tell me more. I don't recall this written down by any of the contributors of the protestant bible book. But maybe I missed that one. Is it in the catholic bible or Ethiopian one which I haven't read with its 81 books?


Lord's Prayer :)
 

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Are you of the view that the bible has contradictions?
Yes. And it depends how you view the Bible. There are two takes on this most of the time.
One is that the Bible is inspired by God, which means that it was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. This view doesn’t have any contradictions because the Bible was written by men.
The other view is that the Bible is 100% word of God and fell from the sky. This view has many contradictions.
 

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Yes. And it depends how you view the Bible. There are two takes on this most of the time.
One is that the Bible is inspired by God, which means that it was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. This view doesn’t have any contradictions because the Bible was written by men.
The other view is that the Bible is 100% word of God and fell from the sky. This view has many contradictions.
So are there actual contradictions in the bible or is it people's interpretation that is flawed?
 

Eli1

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So are there actual contradictions in the bible or is it people's interpretation that is flawed?
Ok so in one page you have David pissed off praying to God to strike his enemies in the cheekbone and on another page you have Jesus saying to turn the other cheek and pray for your enemies.
‘How do you reconcile this?
 

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You technically can try, but it will never be answered. God cursed the serpent for a reason, there is absolutely zero hope for Satan, he will never be redeemed, he will be slain and thrown into the Lake of Fire and all his kingdom of deceived deceivers will go with him, in Jesus name, amen.
God cursed the serpent in Eden to crawl on his belly forever. But that's how he moved in the first place being a snake created by God.

Is there evidence the snake was Satan? Because if Satan was cursed to be a slithering snake forever, how did he re-enter heaven from time to time along with the other sons of God, angels, in Job 1?
 

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God cursed the serpent in Eden to crawl on his belly forever. But that's how he moved in the first place being a snake created by God.

Is there evidence the snake was Satan? Because if Satan was cursed to be a slithering snake forever, how did he re-enter heaven from time to time along with the other sons of God, angels, in Job 1?
Well i guess he can transform himself as 2Corinthians 11:14 says: And no marvel; for satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

He can be a snake, angel, or even pretend to be your dead loved ones.

He also enters people as he did Judas -Luke 22:3
 
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God cursed the serpent in Eden to crawl on his belly forever. But that's how he moved in the first place being a snake created by God.

Is there evidence the snake was Satan? Because if Satan was cursed to be a slithering snake forever, how did he re-enter heaven from time to time along with the other sons of God, angels, in Job 1?
The serpent got the name Satan from the curse; Enmity.

A serpent can be a snake, but a serpent can also be a dragon. Satan is identified as being an animal, a red dragon, in the Bible. He is identified by two names in the Bible; Satan and Devil. He gains these names in Genesis 3. Satan because he is cursed with Enmity. Devil because he is the father of lies, that's the first sin, the sin which he committed, the original sin, the unforgiveable sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit and breaking his own breath of life into three lies, the demons. As for how he is able to go into heaven, well much authority was surrendered to him when he tricked the woman. For two he's a dragon also. But either way, the day is coming when Satan will be thrown out of heaven and barred from ever going back to it, and on that day woe to the earth because he will be down here and very wrathful because he will know on that day that his time is short.
 
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Ok so in one page you have David pissed off praying to God to strike his enemies in the cheekbone and on another page you have Jesus saying to turn the other cheek and pray for your enemies.
‘How do you reconcile this?
Turn the other cheek means to offer someone your other cheek to slap because their first slap wasn’t a threat. Why not ask for another slap? It’s not literally offering someone your other cheek as it is meant to be a defiant act. We are not afraid of those who can merely hurt our bodies.

Jesus doesn’t want His people to be abused.

You thought that was a contradiction? If you’d like show me what else you think is a contradiction so I can see if I can offer an explanation.
 

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Turn the other cheek means to offer someone your other cheek to slap because their first slap wasn’t a threat. Why not ask for another slap? It’s not literally offering someone your other cheek as it is meant to be a defiant act. We are not afraid of those who can merely hurt our bodies.

Jesus doesn’t want His people to be abused.

You thought that was a contradiction? If you’d like show me what else you think is a contradiction so I can see if I can offer an explanation.
Okay, let’s talk about it.
First of all the word of Jesus is always supreme to me and I don’t think he wants us abused. His mentioning of ‘turning the other cheek” is a symbol for us to not be violent.
‘But David on the other hand is extremely violent. He prays to God to strike his enemies in the cheekbone.
‘So this is the contradiction. Violence vs Peace. How do you interpret this?
 
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Okay, let’s talk about it.
First of all the word of Jesus is always supreme to me and I don’t think he wants us abused. His mentioning of ‘turning the other cheek” is a symbol for us to not be violent.
‘But David on the other hand is extremely violent. He prays to God to strike his enemies in the cheekbone.
‘So this is the contradiction. Violence vs Peace. How do you interpret this?
I don’t think Jesus was opposed to violence though. There is a kind of righteous violence that I think Jesus had at His disposal such as calling down legions of angels to slaughter His enemies. Or David asking God to hurt his enemies which were enemies of the Jews. Enemies of the Jews were effectually enemies of God.
 

Eli1

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I don’t think Jesus was opposed to violence though. There is a kind of righteous violence that I think Jesus had at His disposal such as calling down legions of angels to slaughter His enemies. Or David asking God to hurt his enemies which were enemies of the Jews. Enemies of the Jews were effectually enemies of God.
All right, so can you please give me an example where Jesus is advocating for righteous violence?
Because the message that I get from Jesus is the opposite of violence while OT is full of violence.