Children’s Risk of Death Increases by 5100% Following Covid-19 Vaccination Compared to Unvaccinated Children According to Official ONS Data

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BeeThePeace

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As a natural born person. Natural as in natural man, not in relation to one's means of birth.
Newborn souls from God are damned at birth?

I don't believe we can remove God as the means of birth.

We are moving off topic again and in the same line of conflict.

Let's stop .
 

Eli1

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Newborn souls from God are damned at birth?

I don't believe we can remove God as the means of birth.
Interesting logic.
So why do we die? Why aren’t we in Eden eating from the Tree of Life?
 

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Newborn souls from God are damned at birth?

I don't believe we can remove God as the means of birth.

We are moving off topic again and in the same line of conflict.

Let's stop .
Sure. I didn‘t have anything to say until today when I saw new activity. So I respond based on your responses.
But since the topic today is Damnation, we’re engaging in this convo.
‘Maybe next time you can also think about where you stand with Soul Sleep so we can bring this back all the way home in relation to this grotesque headline About Dying Children.
‘You think Jesus “slept” in the tomb for 3 days?
 

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Increased Cardiac Arrest Emergency Events in Israel During Vaccination Period (Age 16-39)

https://rumble.com/v13g5uc-increase...events-in-israel-during-vaccination-peri.html

Increased Cardiac Arrest Emergency Events in Israel During Vaccination Period (Age 16-39)

25% Increase in Cardiac Arrests in 16-39 Years Old During the Pfizer Vaccination Period. Let's review the strengths, weaknesses, and curiosities of this study/research.
 

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More recently, several studies established probable causal relationship between the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines of BNT162b2 and mRNA-127311,14,15,16 as well as adenovirus (ChAdOx1) vaccines17 with myocarditis, primarily in children, young and middle-age adults. The study by the Ministry of Health in Israel, a country with one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, assesses the risk of myocarditis after receiving the 2nd vaccine dose to be between 1 in 3000 to 1 in 6000 in men of age 16–24 and 1 in 120,000 in men under 3011,12,13. A follow up study by the US Center of Disease Control (CDC) based on the VAERS and V-Safe self-reporting systems18 further confirms these findings19. The CDC has recently posted a warning regarding a vaccine-related risk of myocarditis, but still maintained their recommendation to vaccinate young individuals and children over 127. Similar concerns are reflected in the recent Food and Drug Administration approval to the Pfizer vaccine that requires several follow studies on the short and long terms effects of myocarditis in young individuals20.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z


Yay so nothing new here.
Except that your fringe-media source leads with “25% increase“
Danger Danger the Sky is Falling.

It also says the heart inflammation can also be much worse if you get covid.
‘It also says that cdc is aware of this and posted a warning just like they do with all meds.
 

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...s-covid-vaccine-due-blood-clot-risk-rcna27583

FDA restricts J&J’s Covid vaccine due to blood clot risk
Officials say the shot should only be given to adults who cannot receive a different vaccine, or specifically request J&J.

Should have said this 10 months ago when they knew.
A coincidence perhaps, but this announcement from the FDA came out the same day that one of the lawyers working with Naomi Wolf notified the FDA concerning a lawsuit over this vaccine. She has 2,500 volunteers going through the documents and 250 lawyers, and I have it on good authority they are completely ignoring Eli1 and his continuing to claim "nothing to see here". https://tenor.com/view/leslie-niels...disperse-crowd-disperse-disaster-gif-12767181
 

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A coincidence perhaps, but this announcement from the FDA came out the same day that one of the lawyers working with Naomi Wolf notified the FDA concerning a lawsuit over this vaccine. She has 2,500 volunteers going through the documents and 250 lawyers, and I have it on good authority they are completely ignoring Eli1 and his continuing to claim "nothing to see here". https://tenor.com/view/leslie-niels...disperse-crowd-disperse-disaster-gif-12767181
I don't think we can ever underestimate the money factor behind all this.

Haven't the rich always profited off the backs of the poor?
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-dr-fauci-covid19-vaccine
 

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Not true.
We need to define the Age of Accountability.

Frequently lost in the discussion regarding the age of accountability is the fact that children, no matter how young, are not “innocent” in the sense of being sinless. The Bible tells us that, even if an infant or child has not committed personal sin, all people, including infants and children, are guilty before God because of inherited and imputed sin. Inherited sin is that which is passed on from our parents. In Psalm 51:5, David wrote, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.” David recognized that even at conception he was a sinner. The very sad fact that infants sometimes die demonstrates that even infants are impacted by Adam’s sin, since physical and spiritual death were the results of Adam’s original sin.
Yes, we do - especially since you have not done so correctly. But, I will have to wait until [at least] later tonight to address it...
I can’t wait for your correct version.
My view:

The Age of Accountability is generally defined as the point in time in someone's life when they become accountable to God for their sin.

However, until they actually sin, there is no sin to be accountable for.

It is the 'sin nature' that gets passed down from the father to the child - and, exists as such at conception and birth.

This is the curse we cannot avoid; however, we sin out of our own will.

The 'sin nature' is passed down; sin itself is not. Physical death is part of the curse.

We do not inherit sin; however, we do inherit the effects of sin. And, of course, we inherit the 'sin nature'.

Until the child actually commits a sin for the first time, they are [considered to be] 'safe'.

The first time they do something wrong - knowing it is wrong - and do it anyway (spirit of rebellion) - they commit sin against God.

At that point in time, they cease to be 'safe' and are on the path to hell and the lake of fire - and must be born-again to be saved from that destiny.

Children are 'innocent' until they sin that first time.

The flesh is weak - we all sin soon-enough (after birth).

This is the 'sense' of "all have sinned" - we [essentially] "sin at the first opportunity we get" (because the flesh is weak).

Of course, Jesus was able to not sin.

The 'sense' of Psalms 51:5 is that it is being stated as a form of lamentation.
 

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Oh I could post the scriptures, but people wouldn't accept those either, and I'm rapidly reaching the point of not caring.
 

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I see that the headlines have softened where we are now mentioning mainstream news (who we condemn all the time) and the news says that CDC (who we portray as some kind of evil on earth) is recalling some J&J shots.
Nice, nice. Looks like hearts are softening :)


Gary, I posted a comment on page 6 (comment 114) to JTB who has a similar interpretation as yours.
 

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https://rumble.com/v13v2k2-edward-dowd-funeral-homes-and-insurance-company-covid-19-statistics.html

Edward Dowd: Funeral Homes & Insurance Company COVID-19 Statistics

Excess mortality remains high to the surprise of Funeral home directors and Life insurance companies. They are making it clear that Covid does not explain these deaths.

Group life benefits are up significantly, this is for people who are working at companies and suicide and fentanyl doesn’t explain this.

So like Eli1 said, "nothing new here" (this was reported months ago for the last quarter, it is simply more data supporting what was seen months ago) and like Eli1 mocked "Danger, Danger the sky is falling" (Funeral homes are actually had a record breaking quarter, this is not bad news it is great news for stockholders in those companies)
 

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Dr. Naomi Wolf - Pfizer Documents Prove Massive Crimes Against Pregnant Women

Pregnant women were excluded from the trials, used mice to determine it was “safe and effective” and female soldiers are experiencing a catastrophic rate of abnormalities and fetal problems.

All Emergency use authorizations excluded pregnant women yet many organizations strongly advocated for pregnant women to get this vaccine.

The recommendation for pregnant women to get the vaccine was based on one faulty study done on rats in France. This study was done on only 42 rats for 42 days. That is the sum total of the studies done that they used to justify giving the vaccine to pregnant women. Then they terminated that study so there is no long term study on developmental issues or long term effect.

Guess what, the researchers who did this study were employed by and/or held stock in Pfizer or BionTech.

This had horrific outcomes — which she itemizes.

https://rumble.com/v13uknb-dr.-naom...ve-massive-crimes-against-pregnant-women.html

Of course, Eli1 has argued that this is propaganda designed to spread fear.
 

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Here’s a question for the propaganda folks: Why would medical companies around the world would want to kill patients?

Because …. The Devil?
 

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Here are a few verses for the sorcerers (drug companies)

This vaccine is a "sorcery"

Revelation 9:21 and they repented not of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.


Hollywood has used their sorcery to deceive the world

Revelation 18:23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.

Lump them with those that loveth and maketh a lie


Revelation 22:15 Without are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and every one that loveth and maketh a lie.
 

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Here’s a list of failed prophets trying to predict the end of the world. Notice how the list gets more frequent towards the modern age.
As Jesus told us “Only THE FATHER KNOWS”


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Eli1 has done everything in his power to derail this thread

Here is a list of how you try to change the subject with irrelevant posts that have nothing to do with this thread. This is in the Christian news forum, not the Christian False prophet forum.

1. A study is presented showing a horrifying increase in the death rate among children who are being mandated to get the vaccine even though they have little to no risk from Covid

You respond -- that all the kids who die are going to hell which in turn derails this thread for a day.

2. We get the thread back on track and

You respond -- with an absurd lie that 50% of the kids in your neighborhood have died due to the vaccine. Intentionally misrepresenting the study.

3. I show you the error in your lie and instead of apologizing and retracting it

You respond -- that the title is misleading because you misunderstood it.

4 I point out the title is factually correct and therefore, by definition, is not misleading.

You respond -- that I am a liar and that in turn derails the thread for another day. I become the third person on this forum that you have accused of being disingenuous. Everyone is onto you now.

5. I post several more links showing how horrible this vaccine has been to pregnant women, as well as children and as well as a spike in death rates among those who are working and

You respond -- Hey let's look at all the false prophets throughout history.
 

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I don’t think so.
Assuming here that no threads are derailed in this forum (BIG lol) I respond based on your responses which started with the insensitive message to parents that 52% or their children will die like they’re not even human but some kind of insects we spray on.