It is a ridiculous question and had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of discussion, which is your claim that Jesus said all babies believe in Him, and your claim that all babies are born with faith in Jesus Christ. I have given Scriptures that prove you wrong. You refuse to address them, instead diverting away with more of your nonsense. When will you repent from your wickedness and lies?
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Why do you worry about morality, worry about pleasing God & people & worry you might hurt people when it's not you but Christ who lives in you? Don't you trust Jesus with the steering wheel? When are you going to rejoice in Jesus who has delivered you from the forbidden moral compass by paying the greatest price on the cross?
Jesus doesn't "take" the wheel, so to speak. You have to give him the wheel, and it looks like this; Paul explains it better than me.
days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek
11We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. 12In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
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1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
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You absolutely have the ability to take the wheel back and swerve into oncoming traffic. People do it all the time. Something happens to them, and they ignore the spirit that cries abba father- they try to take control and start walking in the flesh, and not in the spirit. Temptations and sin follow after that... and if you're in sin, you should feel conviction- it's a very bad sign if you don't.
days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek
11We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. 12In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
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1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
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You absolutely have the ability to take the wheel back and swerve into oncoming traffic. People do it all the time. Something happens to them, and they ignore the spirit that cries abba father- they try to take control and start walking in the flesh, and not in the spirit. Temptations and sin follow after that... and if you're in sin, you should feel conviction- it's a very bad sign if you don't.
And, I would add, IF THEY ARE NOT- then it's a "faith" issue, and not a "works" issue. So, you wouldn't address it by trying to correct your behavior on just your own power- that's not gonna work right. You have to ask him to fix you, and then believe that he is going to do it, and then he does.
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Nobody ever thought that there was any other way than Jesus.
The church made a major error in the 4th century when it abandoned the doctrine concerning the 1, 000 year reign of Christ on earth.
You cannot take doctrines out of the bible without it having a knock on effect upon all other doctrines. It affects the doctrine of our Lord's coming again.
Is His 2nd coming to reign? or to judge. If He is coming to reign then the rest of mankind can come in, if He comes to judge [as evangelicals teach] then He comes to reward or condemn.
If He comes to reign then the church is raptured, we reign with Him for a thousand years, then comes the judgement. The church cannot be the subject of judgement, since we have reigned with Him a 1, 000 years. THEREFORE ...
Therefore the sheep depicted in the last judgement cannot be the church, but they receive mercy.
The church made a major error in the 4th century when it abandoned the doctrine concerning the 1, 000 year reign of Christ on earth.
You cannot take doctrines out of the bible without it having a knock on effect upon all other doctrines. It affects the doctrine of our Lord's coming again.
Is His 2nd coming to reign? or to judge. If He is coming to reign then the rest of mankind can come in, if He comes to judge [as evangelicals teach] then He comes to reward or condemn.
If He comes to reign then the church is raptured, we reign with Him for a thousand years, then comes the judgement. The church cannot be the subject of judgement, since we have reigned with Him a 1, 000 years. THEREFORE ...
Therefore the sheep depicted in the last judgement cannot be the church, but they receive mercy.
Good Morning!
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Outside of the prophet part of this, I consider all people...the child did not ask to be here.
This is that "strong families in God and His Christ" part that God instituted and we (mankind) missed
the mark.....
Agreed!
But you missed the 2 important spcriptures related back to "the family"
Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
Eph 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
God Bless!
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Outside of the prophet part of this, I consider all people...the child did not ask to be here.
This is that "strong families in God and His Christ" part that God instituted and we (mankind) missed
the mark.....
Agreed!
But you missed the 2 important spcriptures related back to "the family"
Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
Eph 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
God Bless!
Good Morning!
Moral law (Ten Commandments) still stand.
"Laws of the land" still stand.
Ceremonial law we are free....no more sacrifices, etc....
QUOTE="Sudakar, post: 4832038, member: 289077"] Why? Because humans die after law came.[/QUOTE]
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Been dying because we didn't not know the law, sin was not imputed, but when the Law came, we should have known
we could not keep the Law, no ability to , no desire to keep the law.
We needed a Savior , and Yahweh provided.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God Bless!
Moral law (Ten Commandments) still stand.
"Laws of the land" still stand.
Ceremonial law we are free....no more sacrifices, etc....
QUOTE="Sudakar, post: 4832038, member: 289077"] Why? Because humans die after law came.[/QUOTE]
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Been dying because we didn't not know the law, sin was not imputed, but when the Law came, we should have known
we could not keep the Law, no ability to , no desire to keep the law.
We needed a Savior , and Yahweh provided.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God Bless!
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Been dying because we didn't not know the law, sin was not imputed, but when the Law came, we should have known
we could not keep the Law, no ability to , no desire to keep the law.
We needed a Savior , and Yahweh provided.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God Bless![/QUOTE]
If you are saved by grace through faith, why does the moral law still stand?
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Been dying because we didn't not know the law, sin was not imputed, but when the Law came, we should have known
we could not keep the Law, no ability to , no desire to keep the law.
We needed a Savior , and Yahweh provided.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God Bless![/QUOTE]
If you are saved by grace through faith, why does the moral law still stand?
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