Revelation

Thewatchman · Mar 23, 2022

Revelation

I want to do this study because I have heard pastors say “The book of Revelation is not to be understood” or “Nothing past the end of chapter 3 apply because we will be gone”. Lets see just what the Webster Dictionary has to say.

1a: an act of revealing or communicating divine truth b: something that is revealed by God to humans 2a: an act of revealing to view or making known b: something that is revealed

It means the same thing in whatever language you want to use. God did not mean for it to be hid. With that being said Lord as we start this study bless the reader and give us eyes to to see and ear to hear, and a heart to receive Your word. Amen. Verses will be copied from Biblehub.com.

Verse 1.The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The revelation (the revealing, the making known) of Jesus Christ by God given to us His servants by way of an angle to John, That is straight forward we are to understand, know and pass on what is going to be revealed .

Verse 2. Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

John did not leave out or add to anything God showed him in this revelation.

Verse 3. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Get ready to be blessed. I wish I could say it is because of my great insight ect. but not so. God tells us that we are going to get blessed by reading and hearing the words of this prophecy; things that are to come and some have and some will be yet to come, “For the time is at hand” That information given John was relevant then, it is today, and well be until Jesus returns.

Verse 4. John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

This is very important to understand; Seven in biblical numerics means spiritual completeness The 7 churches represent the type of churches that were in John's time and the churches of today. They are not ages of the church but they are the type of churches you will find in your home town (hopefully, or unfortunately) the 7 churches are given as examples so that you can judge your own church and see if it is teaching Gods word or something else. From Him (God) That is: He is God know That was: He was the same God in the first earth age and will be the same God in the age to come. He never changes. The seven spirits that are before the throne. These are again the spirits of each of the 7 types of churches and God is going to give you insight, information, and guidance through each one of them to judge your church.

Verse 5. And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

He paid the price on the cross of us. Hebrews 2:14 He became flesh and blood just like us died on the cross for us and in so doing defeated death which is to say the devil, Satan. The first begotten of the dead, There were other that died long before Jesus, and 2 were transfigured; Why are they not the first begotten? For that very reason they were not the first begotten of God. Only Jesus is the begotten of God. Jesus did it for us, God sent us here in the flesh so that we could choose who to follow Jesus or Satan. Jesus showed us the perfect way He walked in the flesh and did not sin and then shed His blood for the final sin offering. All we have to do is try and follow that path and when we fall short get up brush the dust off the seat of our paints ask God for forgiveness and go back to work. God wants no man to parish He also knows that not all men, people will choose to follow him.

With the limit of correctors I will stop here and post this and then go on,

GRACE_ambassador · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

Precious friend, nothing wrong with studying (Future) "Revelation" of John. But:

How about if we study/understand the (Present) "Revelation Of The Mystery,"
first, because IF we don't know what God Is Doing Today, what good is it to
know the future?

GRACE And Peace...

Pilgrimshope · Mar 23, 2022

GRACE_ambassador said:

lol have you ever read past the verse where Paul explains that the apostles now have that revelation and what it is ?

“how that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:3, 5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they all Had the same revelation that Jew and gentile make up the one kingdom that both Jew and gentile belong to the same church and have the same doctrine the one gospel preached by the lord and all His chosen witnesses including Paul

Instead of looking at one verse and then going to another totally unconnected verse if you read the context of what Paul is writing in his epistles youll
Find out how ridiculous parroting Joseph prince devotionals is , compared to what Paul actually wrote

Thewatchman · Mar 23, 2022

GRACE_ambassador said:

Grace I am sorry that you feel that way. The very name of the book means to be revealed, In this book God reveals everything from the beginning to the end. Verse 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. I need not say any more. You need to read and know your bible form Genises 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. I do hope you read my following posts on this I am sure you will get a better understanding of what I am saying,
Thanks Watchman

Pilgrimshope · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

amen it’s “ apocalypse of ” which means “ “unveiling of “ or “revelation of”

Its title is derived from the first word of the Koine Greektext: apokalypsis, meaning "unveiling" or "revelation".

DanielLL · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

The time was at hand. When He revealed this to John, the time was already at hand. He must have returned quickly shortly after this.

GRACE_ambassador said:

A lot of people believe it is (future) Revelation. His return was indeed a future event in the time of John, but it was also "at hand".
Now, if you think 2000 years is "quickly", you need to look a this verse, where Balaam prophecies about Messiah:

Numbers 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

So, if from Balaam to Jesus is "not nigh", neither is from Jesus to us. And Jesus said He would come "quickly" to John.

Thewatchman · Mar 23, 2022

DanielLL said:

The time was at hand. When He revealed this to John, the time was already at hand. He must have returned quickly shortly after this.

A lot of people believe it is (future) Revelation. His return was indeed a future event in the time of John, but it was also "at hand".
Now, if you think 2000 years is "quickly", you need to look a this verse, where Balaam prophecies about Messiah:

Numbers 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

So, if from Balaam to Jesus is "not nigh", neither is from Jesus to us. And Jesus said He would come "quickly" to John.

if Jesus returned shortly after John's Revelation what are we doing here today????

DanielLL · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Thewatchman · Mar 23, 2022

You are right at the end of the millennium Satan will be let loose once more to deceive whomever he can. It is amazing to me that so many even then will follow him. Why? We will all be in spiritual bodies we will not have to ask our Neighbor if they know Christ because they will. We will have total recall and we will be at the end of the 1,000 teaching period and yet many will follow him

Thewatchman · Mar 23, 2022

DanielLL said:

The time was at hand. When He revealed this to John, the time was already at hand. He must have returned quickly shortly after this.

A lot of people believe it is (future) Revelation. His return was indeed a future event in the time of John, but it was also "at hand".
Now, if you think 2000 years is "quickly", you need to look a this verse, where Balaam prophecies about Messiah:

Numbers 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

So, if from Balaam to Jesus is "not nigh", neither is from Jesus to us. And Jesus said He would come "quickly" to John.

Just to add to that Peter tells us 1 day with the Lord is as a 1,000 years with man. That means in Gods time Jesus died about 21/4 days ago.

Live4Him2 · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

Hi, The watchman.

I'm sorry (sincerely), but I have to disagree with your interpretation right from the very first verse.

If you really study this out, then I think that you will conclude that this verse is really talking about a "revelation" that was given to Jesus Christ by God the Father after he rose from the dead...a "revelation" which he, in turn, passed on to his servant John via an angel.

In this sense, it truly is "the revelation of Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM", with the "him" being Jesus Christ.

Furthermore, I personally believe that a major part, if not the complete part, of this "revelation" that Jesus was given by the Father came via his unloosing of the seven seals later on in this book.

In other words, things which had previously been "sealed", and possibly in the day of the prophet Daniel, were now being unsealed.

In relation to Daniel's day, we read:

"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." (Daniel 12:4)

As you probably already know, the books of Daniel and Revelation oftentimes fit together like hand and glove.

Compare the sealing of the book in Daniel's day to the following:

Revelation chapter 5

[1] And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
[2] And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
[3] And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
[4] And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
[5] And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
[6] And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
[7] And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
[8] And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
[9] And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
[10] And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
[11] And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
[12] Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
[13] And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
[14] And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Revelation chapter 6

[1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals...

No one was worthy to take the book out of God the Father's hand and to open the seals thereof until Jesus was slain and had redeemed us unto God by his blood.

Again, it is the loosing of these seals and the revelations contained therein which I believe account for a great portion, if not the entire portion, of "the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him" (Rev. 1:1).

Anyhow, I hope that you'll prayerfully consider what I suggested to you before the Lord.

ewq1938 · Mar 23, 2022

DanielLL said:

The first 6 verses of Revelation 20 have not yet happened, neither any part of Revelation 19.

tourist · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

Maybe we were left behind.

DanielLL · Mar 23, 2022

Thewatchman said:

Why do you think this? Chapter and verse?

Thewatchman said:

It is still considered "not near" in Scripture.

ewq1938 said:

Why not?

ewq1938 · Mar 23, 2022

DanielLL said:

Because the Great Tribulation and second coming and resurrection and rapture haven't obviously happened yet.

DanielLL · Mar 23, 2022

ewq1938 said:

Why not?

ewq1938 · Mar 23, 2022

DanielLL said:

Why not?

DanielLL · Mar 23, 2022

ewq1938 said:

Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

ewq1938 · Mar 23, 2022

DanielLL said:

Matthew 23:33 isn't part of the things he was talking about in 24:34 but these are:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

DanielLL · Mar 23, 2022

ewq1938 said:

There you have it, He would return within a generation:

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

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