We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

[DavidTree]

Eve's Reborn spirit seed is what crushes the head of the serpent. Therefore, our Reborn spirit crushes the head of the serpent, which means we overcome sin slavery through CHRIST.
We need to be born of the Spirit to enter The Kingdom ...to have access to The Tree of LIFE.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

...so there is also enmity between the Reborn and fallen (satan's children).

Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin.

If we are IN Adam (sin) we die, our soul would be thinking with worldly fallen flesh.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

If we Join JESUS on The Cross we will not serve sin anymore:

Romans 6:5-6
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

We can't be Reborn without The Image of JESUS (Obey Him for SALVATION). The HOLY SPIRIT in our Temple is our connection to Life.
The church system thinks they are Reborn and can still eat from the tree of knowledge (repeated willful sin).


How is repeated willful sin not an attempt to save your fallen life? What do you think picking up your cross and Following Him means?

"LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOR EVER:"
GOD was telling us that the church system is not going to have Eternal Life ...because they think they can eat from both Trees! "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues."


Your walk is about your spiritual intentions (heart). The carnal mind is about your soul (mind) and spirit (intentions) both being about the flesh. Double-minded.

Your spirit is dead because it isn't using The Tree of LIFE!

You are not walking in The SPIRIT if you intend to repeat willful sin.

You eat from the tree of knowledge via your spirit. You made definitions for your morality intentions.

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Romans 8:3-6
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

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We are Adam and Eve ...we can't have the Life of CHRIST and continue to live in repeated willful sin.
The Garden was GOD telling us about The Test we are in right now.

Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming SWORD which turned every way, to keep THE WAY of the TREE OF LIFE.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

//Being Born of The SPIRIT is how we walk past the Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE ...we use The Way ...and The Sword (The Word) doesn't let you use alternative ways.

FYI - You said: "Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin."
Your statement is falsehood and thus an error (anti-truth).

I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
1 Timothy 2:8-15

 

[LoveBrokeThru]

If you are not on The Cross, you are not in The Body of CHRIST.

Jesus said to take up your Cross.
He didn't say to get on it, as there is only Room for one Savior on it, and its not you or me.

 

[Ogom]

Admitting your sins doesn't mean anything unless you get on The Cross after. That means you stop doing them.

"greater things you will do"

John 14:12-17 You Will Do Greater Things than Jesus.
12/20/2014
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John Chapter 14 Verses 12-17

One of the most amazing promises of the Bible is John 14:12-14, where Jesus says,

“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father. 13 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.”

Have you ever thought about it? Have you ever mulled it over? Jesus says that if we believe in Him we will do the works the He does. But He doesn’t stop there. He continues with “and greater works than these” That is incredible!

 

[DanielLL]

if the 'true believer' has no sin to confess, what is 1 John 1:9 doing in the Bible?
is John writing to the unsaved?

John is writting to people who are not yet in "fellowship with us", he is writting to sinners:
1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

The sinners need to confess they have sin, in order to be cleansed from all sin, after that, the true believer walks in the Light:

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Also, verse 7 introduces the idea that Jesus "cleanses us from all sin", so the context in verse 8 is: "sins to cleanse", if we say we have no sin to cleanse, we deceive ourselves, since all need to be cleansed:

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

walking in the light means not hiding your sin.

No, walking in the Light means walking even as He walked, and that is without sin, keeping all the commandments, because in Him there is no darkness at all:

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
1 John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Jesus said to take up your Cross.
He didn't say to get on it, as there is only Room for one Savior on it, and its not you or me.

Being literal is a sign of spiritual blindness. JESUS' Blood can't Cover the sin you refuse to stop doing.

 

[Ogom]

Being literal is a sign of spiritual blindness. JESUS' Blood can't Cover the sin you refuse to stop doing.

The Spirit, Like Water ... Cannot Be Contained. It IS and Will Be and Will Do What it IS Meant To - Outside of Human (1 Cor13:12) Doctrine

 

[Ogom]

You have a Truth problem ...in that ...you don't want it. If you don't want The Truth about repeated willful sin ...then you don't get The Way ...or The LIFE either. i know you don't have a Relationship with Him because you still have the yoke of slavery on you.

You want The Kingdom to be in future ...because you don't want His Presence now.

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.”

We don’t just have God with us. He is not distant, looking down on us from Heaven hoping we do well on our mission. He is living within in us. God is inside you, Believer! Because He is in you, you can do the work of Jesus. You can reveal God to the world.

https://www.donnalcampbell.com/salt...1412-17-you-will-do-greater-things-than-jesus

 

[Obey-JESUS]

FYI - You said: "Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin."
Your statement is falsehood and thus an error (anti-truth).

I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
1 Timothy 2:8-15

temptation happens in the mind, that means the tree of knowledge is in us. It means a lot of things were symbolic for The Garden.

The following says "drawn away" ...as in separation from GOD!
Do you think you are not tempted to eat from that tree?

each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
(James 1:14)


“So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches.” (Luke 13:18–19).

Tree in the Garden!

Eve was the first to eat from the tree ...our spirits are what eat from the Trees.

"Eve" means "to live" and was a companion to Adam ...our soul. The only way we live in CHRIST is if our spirit is living.

English Standard Version
The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Could "living" ...be talking about "living spirits"?

Eve's seed crushes the head of the serpent ...so do we if we have The SPIRIT.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

The Woman having offspring means there is a body of people. So there is also a body of the antichrist spirit.

 

[DavidTree]

temptation happens in the mind, that means the tree of knowledge is in us. It means a lot of things were symbolic for The Garden.

The following says "drawn away" ...as in separation from GOD!
Do you think you are not tempted to eat from that tree?

each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
(James 1:14)


“So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches.” (Luke 13:18–19).

Tree in the Garden!

Eve was the first to eat from the tree ...our spirits are what eat from the Trees.

"Eve" means "to live" and was a companion to Adam ...our soul. The only way we live in CHRIST is if our spirit is living.

English Standard Version
The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Could "living" ...be talking about "living spirits"?

Eve's seed crushes the head of the serpent ...so do we if we have The SPIRIT.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

The Woman having offspring means there is a body of people. So there is also a body of the antichrist spirit.

If you want to eat from the Tree of Life then you need to Study this:

And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. 3All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.
4But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.a

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Repeated willful sin is willfully reaching with your spirit past JESUS to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. How is that sin covered in His Blood?

 

[Oblio]

I don't like your attitude. You seem to set yourself up as judge...and yet you don't even know us. A little humility would go a long way.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

If your spirit reaches past JESUS to do a willful sin, then it is choosing death instead of LIFE.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.”

We don’t just have God with us. He is not distant, looking down on us from Heaven hoping we do well on our mission. He is living within in us. God is inside you, Believer! Because He is in you, you can do the work of Jesus. You can reveal God to the world.

https://www.donnalcampbell.com/salt...1412-17-you-will-do-greater-things-than-jesus

That's fantastic ...goes with this:

2 Thessalonians 2:10
and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

These dead spirits have no idea what Righteousness is because it requires you eat from The Tree of LIFE ...they are not.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Oh, and this also:


1 John 3:4-10 ESV

4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

 

[Jesusfollower]

If your spirit reaches past JESUS to do a willful sin, then it is choosing death instead of LIFE.

You are obviously causing trouble on this thread, i reported you as such. With members like you who have weird ideas not based on the truth, is is difficult to move forward on a topic. i wish also you would be less aggressive towards others as well, keep an open mind to others andyou might learn a thing or two. Many
of the members on this forum are wonderful and very knowledgeable you should listen a bit more and not always contradict everyone. And please get your facts straight before posting.

JF.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

You are obviously causing trouble on this thread, i reported you as such. With members like you who have weird ideas not based on the truth, is is difficult to move forward on a topic. i wish also you would be less aggressive towards others as well, keep an open mind to others andyou might learn a thing or two. Many
of the members on this forum are wonderful and very knowledgeable you should listen a bit more and not always contradict everyone. And please get your facts straight before posting.

JF.

Causing trouble in my own thread? More like you don't like Light on your death.

 

[Jesusfollower]

yes trouble on your own useless thread. Nothing will come off this.

JF.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

yes trouble on your own useless thread. Nothing will come off this.

JF.

Jde 1:4
For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality...

 

[Snacks]

I see you grade yourself a teenager, then. Explains some of your attitude.

Those are very rebellious years for some. Hopefully you will grow out of it.

Interesting analysis. Being misguided in youth may explain all the capital letters.

 

[Magenta]

Interesting analysis. Being misguided in youth may explain all the capital letters.

Yes, all the yelling. Just like a temper tantrum...