We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

[posthuman]

"For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I." - Romans 7:15 KJV

the flesh lusteth against the spirit - Galatians 5:17

yea, verily.

if any sin is not willful sin, then the implication is either that God is causing you to sin, or that we are possessed by Satan.
in either case there is a denial of culpability -- which is de-facto accusing God of being an evil judge.

i suspect our new friend, who claims to be sinless while accusing everyone on the forum of being sons & daughters of Satan, convinces himself that his own sin is not his own sin, in that which he recognizes, and denies what sin he does not.

however salvation is by grace; it is God's mercy.
this new fellow; he believes he is good. yet no one is good, but God

those who truly have salvation also have humility -- and we are known by our love, not by our hateful slander and boasting.


i am surprised this thread has lasted as long as it has -- i may end up reading it all, tho, i suspect i will not enjoy doing so.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Reach for The Tree of LIFE with your Reborn spirit to remove the yoke of sin slavery Through JESUS.

 

[Snacks]

Reach for The Tree of LIFE with your Reborn spirit to remove the yoke of sin slavery Through JESUS.

You first

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Jude 1:20-21
But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Wow, those Verses are amazing!

Keeping yourself in The Love of GOD is being in a constant Relationship with Him! Kind of hard to be in constant communication with Him and do repeated willful sin at the same time.

It is remaining on The Narrow Path of SALVATION.

It is Obeying JESUS as our LORD.

It is keeping Righteous Intentions.

It is correcting the corrupted image of Adam.

It is eating from The Tree of LIFE.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

James 4:4-5
... Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

It's insane how often Scripture talks about different types of human spirit. They are all connected to intentions.

If your heart intentions are wicked (repeated willful sin), then The HOLY SPIRIT isn't in you.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

If The Law is to our hearts now ...it means The Law is to our intentions! If you are not being Guided by The HOLY SPIRIT then ...The Law isn't in you. You are not feeling The SPIRIT grieve in you.

 

[Magenta]

You have told yourself that you are Reborn

I don't need to tell myself I am reborn.

The Spirit Himself testifies with my spirit that I am God’s child. I agree with God.

You disagreeing with God is a completely separate issue. I hope you get it worked out soon.

 

[DanielLL]

how you repeatedly bear false witness while pretending to be sinless, huh?

The Spirit Himself testifies with my spirit that I am God’s child. I agree with God.

I am reborn.

If you are reborn then you should have no problem with your fellow sinless brothers:

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The Holy Spirit cannot sin. So, how can you say you have the Holy Spirit, and still be cappable of sin?
How can he escape the peril, who says the Holy Spirit sinned along with him?

 

[Obey-JESUS]

So what Truth do you have if you think you can do repeated willful sin?

Pro 16:6
By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.


Intentions!:

Pro 16:9
A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.

 

[Dino246]

If The Law is to our hearts now ...it means The Law is to our intentions! If you are not being Guided by The HOLY SPIRIT then ...The Law isn't in you. You are not feeling The SPIRIT grieve in you.

Why are you yelling?

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Why are you yelling?

Trying to get you to hear it on the other-side of the veil.

 

[Magenta]

How can he escape the peril, who says the Holy Spirit sinned along with him?

I never said any such thing. Why do you repeatedly lie?

You continue to sin while claiming sinlessness.

You are deceived and do not even know it.

Or maybe you do know it, but like acting the part of the self exalting Pharisee.

 

[posthuman]

It's insane how often Scripture talks about different types of human spirit

Um...

There is only one kind of human: corrupt and evil. Just like you, just like me.

It's why we must be born again.
No one is good but God.
Not you.
Not me.

And we now groan in these tents along with all of creation, waiting for that final redemption of our bodies.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Um...

There is only one kind of human: corrupt and evil. Just like you, just like me.

It's why we must be born again.
No one is good but God.
Not you.
Not me.

And we now groan in these tents along with all of creation, waiting for that final redemption of our bodies.

What are you waiting for? Read the thread:

Are human spirits (intentions/heart) ...about different kinds of trees in The Garden?

Exo 28:3
And thou shalt speak unto all that are wise hearted, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron's garments to consecrate him, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.

Exo 31:3
And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,

Num 5:14
And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:

Deu 34:9
And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the LORD commanded Moses.

Job 20:3
I have heard the check of my reproach, and the spirit of my understanding causeth me to answer.

Psa 76:12
He shall cut off the spirit of princes: he is terrible to the kings of the earth.

Pro 18:14
The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded spirit who can bear?

Pro 20:27
The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.


Ecc 3:21
Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Extra bonus:

1 Kings 4:29
And God gave Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much, and largeness of heart, even as the sand that is on the sea shore.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I never said any such thing. Why do you repeatedly lie?

It is high time to stop feeding the trolls.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

but I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:27-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Someone Intended to commit adultery!


If your heart's intention (spirit) is to be for yourself (soul) instead of GOD, you worship death ...self-idolatry ...pride ...the beast spirit.
Biblical Love is about your hearts intention ...not animal like the carnal mind knows about.

Proverbs 16:2
All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the Lord weigheth the spirits.
Proverbs 21:2
Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the Lord pondereth the hearts.


Hebrews 4:12 NKJV
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.




Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

I shall show you in the Bible the Lies that started literally every false teaching. that ever existed This is the Original Sin:

Genesis 3:1

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Amazingly the Woman did not fall for the First Lie cast at her by the Devil as indicated by her answer, she originally knew the Truth and was created just fine and perfect as a woman by God as indicated by her answer to the Devil.

Genesis 3:2-3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

What happens next is the wicked old serpent twists and torments the Spirit, the Breath of Life given even to him and every living thing. What a significant and terrible event this is where the Spirit is twisted even further into the Second Lie.

Genesis 3:4

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

The woman is listening to the Devil at this point she gives no response, and into her mind he splits his Spirit into the third piece and forges the Third Lie and casts the Third Lie into the mind of the Woman.

Genesis 3:5

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Upon the Devil saying the Third Lie he has possessed Woman and this is indicated by how she looks now at the fruit in a false way and her thoughts which are now corrupted by Lies, woman's mind has been bent and Satan speaks directly into woman's mind now,. Woman not only has Satan inside her mind but above this she is now believing that the fruit actually will make her wise just like the Devil told her. Will she obey God's voice and commands made in the 2nd chapter before this all or to obey Satan's voice who has told her Three Lies to get her to eat the tree? The fateful moment.

Genesis 3:6

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

He loved her. He trusted her. He did not know that she became possessed by the Devil. He did not even question her when she gave him the fruit, he did not even know what was about to happen to him. The source of tears and laments! He listened to the woman, she listened to the Devil, and Man ate too and they hid themselves both from the Word of God walking in the Garden.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

I shall show you in the Bible the Lies that started literally every false teaching. that ever existed This is the Original Sin:

Genesis 3:1

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Amazingly the Woman did not fall for the First Lie cast at her by the Devil as indicated by her answer, she originally knew the Truth and was created just fine and perfect as a woman by God as indicated by her answer to the Devil.

Genesis 3:2-3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

What happens next is the wicked old serpent twists and torments the Spirit, the Breath of Life given even to him and every living thing. What a significant and terrible event this is where the Spirit is twisted even further into the Second Lie.

Genesis 3:4

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

The woman is listening to the Devil at this point she gives no response, and into her mind he splits his Spirit into the third piece and forges the Third Lie and casts the Third Lie into the mind of the Woman.

Genesis 3:5

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Upon the Devil saying the Third Lie he has possessed Woman and this is indicated by how she looks now at the fruit in a false way and her thoughts which are now corrupted by Lies, woman's mind has been bent and Satan speaks directly into woman's mind now,. Woman not only has Satan inside her mind but above this she is now believing that the fruit actually will make her wise just like the Devil told her. Will she obey God's voice and commands made in the 2nd chapter before this all or to obey Satan's voice who has told her Three Lies to get her to eat the tree? The fateful moment.

Genesis 3:6

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

He loved her. He trusted her. He did not know that she became possessed by the Devil. He did not even question her when she gave him the fruit, he did not even know what was about to happen to him. The source of tears and laments! He listened to the woman, she listened to the Devil, and Man ate too and they hid themselves both from the Word of God walking in the Garden.

i'm guessing you didn't read the first post, i know it was long ...but you would know Scripture wasn't being literal.


Double minded only want excuses to keep GOD out of their lives, so they construe what The Test is with satan's comforting lies.

babylon knows GOD is looking for His Children, so they make their own Garden of Eden definition of "good" and claim they will pass The Test.

satan tricks dead spirits into thinking they are Saved by causing society (worldliness) to promote twisted "good" works through pride. Helping other people is great, but you are not Saved by doing it without GOD'S Guidance.

satan said our eyes would be opened ..they opened to his will and closed to GOD'S. he said we wouldn't die ..when he represented death. he was saying we could make our own rules because GOD told us we would die ..and we did, spiritual blindness (death).

You pass The Garden of Eden Test by Choosing Life which is Answering with JESUS' Blood and getting on The Cross with Him.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Are you doing the Will of GOD while you are doing willful repeated sin?

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

Heb 10:39
But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

 

[DanielLL]

I never said any such thing. Why do you repeatedly lie?

I didn't say you did, I specifically posed the question with a general "he" to seperate you from the subject:
How can he escape the peril, who says the Holy Spirit sinned along with him?

The answer is, "he" can't. You didn't have to accuse me of lying, you placed yourself in the subject, were you convicted?

You continue to sin while claiming sinlessness.

I never claimed nothing about myself, you were the one claiming to be "reborn", so you are the one claiming to be without sin. And at the same time you claim you sin:

If it were up to each of us to remain absolutely sinless following conviction and
conversion, probably nobody would be saved. Jesus was sinless. We are not.

So, which one is it, are you "reborn" with the Spirit, or are you a sinner? Because you can't be both.