Alcohol - a world wide phenomena

[oyster67]

expect me to take you seriously?

I think he actually does, but I'm not 100% sure yet.

 

[posthuman]

I guess I mean by tipsy as starting to feel the effects of alcohol. The first thing alcohol affects is judgment. Rather, we should be sober minded.

in my experience the among the first things affected are balance & fine motor control. judgement is affected later.

 

[posthuman]

New wine is found in the clusters. Take a cluster and press it into a cup…presto!

contextually that's clusters that remain long after the harvest when people are thinking about pruning back the vines.
so those are grapes which have naturally begun to ferment, being unplucked, being partially exposed to oxygen from broken skin, and containing natural yeast.

it's not fresh, ripe grapes - overripe ones that have been previously overlooked.

 

[peldom10]

I find that a certain degree of self-righteousness seems to be displayed by those who feel God has chosen them for a special purpose.

Paul went from calling himself an Apostle, the least of the Apostles, to the chiefest among sinners. In other words, the more he learned and was used by God, the more humble he became.

Is that self serving?
When will you give attention to your righteousness? When God elects you?

 

[posthuman]

Ok, would you agree, by the context, that the reason that Nadab and Abihu offered strange fire was because their mental capacity was impaired by having drank alcohol before going into the service of the Tabernacle, which brought God's wrath unto their death by confusing the holy and the unholy, clean and unclean, and brought about God's proclamation to Aaron and his other sons about not drinking alcohol in God's service of the Tabernacle lest they die similarly?

no.

we cannot blame our sin on something we have eaten or drank -- it is not what goes into a man that defiles him.
we have culpability and are worthy of condemnation, because of what is in our hearts. not because of coca-cola.

no one suddenly gains a wicked heart because they eat potato salad, and no one becomes righteous by outwardly avoiding it.

 

[posthuman]

In my past before my conversion I drank several things classified as alcohol, alcoholic wine, beer, 'liquor', etc.

I don't mind questions.

i have a question

were you ever thankful for it?

 

[posthuman]

Paul told Timothy to drink a 'little' wine. Of course, it is unclear how much wine is in a 'little'. Maybe he meant drink a liter of wine. That would numb the pain for sure.

it's true that little is a relative term

for the folks who are under the untenable impression that Biblical wine has zero or nearly zero alcohol content, i suppose the recommendation is to be read as a great number of liters -- tho i am thinking that would result in bladder pain?

perhaps Paul's advice is just to give young Timothy a different problem, so he forgets the first

 

[posthuman]

Perhaps you might consider my study on that. Who was with Paul? Would a physician filled with the Holy Spirit really recommend alcohol for stomach ailments and other infirmities?

hmm in another thread you decided someone was an unbeliever on the basis that she takes a medicinal substance for a physical ailment.


this raises some questions

 

[posthuman]

Which means it's been than long since I had a Margarita! That's not a sin, but it might be close!

way to salty IMO
hurts my stomach

 

[posthuman]

good night; if God wills i'll enjoy reading the second half of yet-another-alcohol-thread tomorrow

 

[Oblio]

way to salty IMO
hurts my stomach

Can I have yours?

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

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You cite an article that quotes Ellen White, and you expect me to take you seriously?

Dude, get some better sources!

Did you read about the preservation methods?

No I do not expect you to believe anything sister White said. It wasn't the reason the link was given.

Dude means we'll dressed man, and in Christ Jesus I surely am.

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

hmm in another thread you decided someone was an unbeliever on the basis that she takes a medicinal substance for a physical ailment.


this raises some questions

No, I didn't. Go back and read it again, slowly, and then apologize for your libel.

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

i have a question

were you ever thankful for it?

Back then I worshipped the dragon. So thanks went to him.

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

it's true that little is a relative term

Paul's medical instruction involved juice of the grape, not alcohol. Detailed in original linked study.

 

[Sipsey]

Is that self serving?
When will you give attention to your righteousness? When God elects you?

Being in possession of the most valuable gift in eternity should alter our view of self dramatically, but the focus should be God, others, self. Not saying I have attained this perfected view as of yet, but I strive to run this race with all the help I can get.

 

[Oblio]

I saw a video awhile back where a woman had a gasoline-drinking problem. That, I'd imagine, would qualify as sin. I thought that would kill you! I remember as a kid siphoning gas out of the car for the lawnmower and getting a mouthful. I never imagined someone would do that on purpose!

 

[Sipsey]

I saw a video awhile back where a woman had a gasoline-drinking problem. That, I'd imagine, would qualify as sin. I thought that would kill you! I remember as a kid siphoning gas out of the car for the lawnmower and getting a mouthful. I never imagined someone would do that on purpose!

I remember a class years ago where a lady spoke of a poor family that was addicted to sipping gas.

 

[Oblio]

I remember a class years ago where a lady spoke of a poor family that was addicted to sipping gas.

I guess as long as they were sipping it and not drinking it out of a jerry can!
Or are you saying sipping because you like the word sip, Sipsey?

 

[Sipsey]

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I guess as long as they were sipping it and not drinking it out of a jerry can!
Or are you saying sipping because you like the word sip, Sipsey?

I think I have used the word Sipsey so much during my life, that it just oozes out in conversation. It is an English spelling of a Choctaw Indian word spelled sipsi, and the name of a nearby small stream I grew up on. It means cottonwood tree. They were once plentiful along that stream and duly noted by the native population of long ago.

I am actually working on a collection of short stories entitled, “The Sipsey Chronicles,” about the life and times of people that lived along its path.