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de-emerald

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I know we have had hyper grace banned here and sinless perfection considered a bad doctrin and probably banned.

Once saved always saved is finaly getting abolished by alot of churches, because it gives people a liscence to sin or makes people become a law unto them selfs.

However there is no condemnation for those in christ and we make mistakes, and we makes mistakes following bad doctrins.

The twisted doctrins of the law does not matter is also another doctrin from hell.

But the biggest most biggest most evil doctrin from hell is the one that says God allows evil to tempt or test people into sin, or God allows evil to test humans to see if they will sin. for many reasons but just one brief insight, is evil will always try to justify its presence, by saying God sent me, why well evil wants to defile Gods holy word.

Every good place we here from Jesus our mesiah, it is a big no no for christians and i have to wonder If christians or people are following the direct words of our mesisah, and why there is many many scripture that suggest Jesus would not allow evil to tempt a humanbeing into sin but yet 30 scriptures telling the truth against one telling a lie is not enough to convince christians or people that Jesus does not work satan,
 

wattie

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I know we have had hyper grace banned here and sinless perfection considered a bad doctrin and probably banned.

Once saved always saved is finaly getting abolished by alot of churches, because it gives people a liscence to sin or makes people become a law unto them selfs.

However there is no condemnation for those in christ and we make mistakes, and we makes mistakes following bad doctrins.

The twisted doctrins of the law does not matter is also another doctrin from hell.

But the biggest most biggest most evil doctrin from hell is the one that says God allows evil to tempt or test people into sin, or God allows evil to test humans to see if they will sin. for many reasons but just one brief insight, is evil will always try to justify its presence, by saying God sent me, why well evil wants to defile Gods holy word.

Every good place we here from Jesus our mesiah, it is a big no no for christians and i have to wonder If christians or people are following the direct words of our mesisah, and why there is many many scripture that suggest Jesus would not allow evil to tempt a humanbeing into sin but yet 30 scriptures telling the truth against one telling a lie is not enough to convince christians or people that Jesus does not work satan,
Eternal security is straight down the line biblical doctrine. Calling OSAS bad doctrine to be possibly banned is basically attacking the diety of Christ imo.
 
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RichMan

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If you are not eternally saved you are not saved at all.
 

ResidentAlien

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I know we have had hyper grace banned here and sinless perfection considered a bad doctrin and probably banned.

Once saved always saved is finaly getting abolished by alot of churches, because it gives people a liscence to sin or makes people become a law unto them selfs.
OSAS is one of those ingrained traditions that will never get uprooted; it's too much a part of Americanity. You just have to accept it.
 

Gardenias

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There are many DOCTRINES in the world created by man's MIS-INTERPRETATIONS of what GOD SAYS!

We each must EXAMINE ourselves DAILY to check if any false or herectial doctrines have overtaken us.

People are FREE to believe what they want,even those things that don't meet the standard of the word.

We MUST BE STEADFAST AND NOT EASILY SHAKEN in what the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD SAYS.

Jesus said he has SENT us into the world John 17:17 but prays the FATHER SANCTIFIES US BY THE WORD FOR HIS WORD IS TRUTH.

People have become complacent and lazy in studying the word,so they open avenues for scripture to be twisted,taken out of context, changed to LIES, and corrupted by men.

Many doctrines are in GOD'S WORD!
Many heresies I've heard here! I could name a few now, but I'll just leave people in the hand of God that adhere to junk beliefs to sooth their itching ears.
 

Dino246

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It will probably get banned about the same time that atrocious spelling is banned.
 

Blade

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For me based on just the way you said things. Some of them I have never read..and praise God people can talk share.. be wrong and learn or be right and I learn from them.

What someone else said here.. you know for me the only people that let me know about..something were Christians not the world. For me oh its very hard.. how some of you do it.. another reason I never post much. To always have to say ..I am awful with words..and on and on. Sorry..
 

wattie

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If you are not eternally saved you are not saved at all.
Yea.. it is the most common response to say 'you are preaching a license to sin' when teaching eternal security and osas.

I think though... that is thinking carnally, not spiritually. A new believer would know the amazing grace given. Are they then just gonna run off and rebel?

Someone who goes off straight away didnt understand what is given... eternal life.
 

de-emerald

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OSAS is one of those ingrained traditions that will never get uprooted; it's too much a part of Americanity. You just have to accept it.
it's looking that way. But What I can't figure out why does once saved always also preach God needs to tempt you or test you , if your saved.
 
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RichMan

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it's looking that way. But What I can't figure out why does once saved always also preach God needs to tempt you or test you , if your saved.
I do not know anyone who teaches that God temps.
Give me names or stop with the false accusing.
 

Magenta

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"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. But I have prayed for you,
Simon, that your faith will not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”


When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For
God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
 

KelbyofGod

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If you are not eternally saved you are not saved at all.
I'm not really a fan of using the word "saved" ...because it is SOOO vague if not clarified thoroughly. If someone has been saved it technically only means they have been delivered from something. It doesn't necessarily imply religious conversion or any specific level of permanence. Someone can be "saved" from a house fire. Did they "get saved" from that housefire? YEP. Does their "being saved" mean they're automatically going to heaven because they "got saved"? We know it doesn't work like that but those were all legitimate usages of "saved".

Saved also has many biblical applications and they do NOT all reference "eternal life". So I would disagree with your statement.

But I did get a good chuckle on your post #9. :)

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus Yeshua saves all who come to Him in spirit and truth from eternal damnation.

There is nothing more enduring than this Salvation.

You nor anyone else, should have any problem understanding this. Are you saved? I believe I am. but I will not be cocky about it.
 

de-emerald

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I do not know anyone who teaches that God temps.
Give me names or stop with the false accusing.
It's been going on in this forum everyday for the whole duration I have been here. The whole thing has made me angry. And please don't make me out to be a liar.
 

de-emerald

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There are many DOCTRINES in the world created by man's MIS-INTERPRETATIONS of what GOD SAYS!

We each must EXAMINE ourselves DAILY to check if any false or herectial doctrines have overtaken us.

People are FREE to believe what they want,even those things that don't meet the standard of the word.

We MUST BE STEADFAST AND NOT EASILY SHAKEN in what the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD SAYS.

Jesus said he has SENT us into the world John 17:17 but prays the FATHER SANCTIFIES US BY THE WORD FOR HIS WORD IS TRUTH.

People have become complacent and lazy in studying the word,so they open avenues for scripture to be twisted,taken out of context, changed to LIES, and corrupted by men.

Many doctrines are in GOD'S WORD!
Many heresies I've heard here! I could name a few now, but I'll just leave people in the hand of God that adhere to junk beliefs to sooth their itching ears.
I understand that many people here work together with and a togetherness to pull down bad doctrins. But not this one sadly. I know how passionate people are, for the word of God to be told the right way and for those people who study long on hard with hope they can understand God better, and how important it is for new Christians not to be brainwashed by bad doctrins, but we can all follow a new doctrin believing it is good not knowing the issues it may cause for a separate doctrin all together like OSAS, also like doctrins, for the people for works or against works or people aposed to law or against the law of works, or doctrins aposed to the rapture and against the rapture, and everyone implying one rule for one in one doctrin and one rule for another in another doctrin, which drives me crazy at times and has me pulling my hair out. Time and time again I bite my tongue here. And time and time again I see people becoming a law unto them selves with all the doctrins I have mentioned, and I believe the biggest reason for that. Is so many Christians of today believe God will tempt you or test you and work with evil.

I have seen a long drawn out war over OSAS here in this forum, and whilst OSAS preaches eternal security and peace. Should it not teach there is no need for God to tempt or test Christians, and @wattie you can answer that to if you want.

But the biggest long drawn out war I feel should be happening here in this forum, where everyone gets to rebuke evil the way it should be is a war against pulling down the doctrin that Jesus God tempts people into sin. Or Jesus God tests you to see if you will sin. Both the same thing. Both implying that Jesus works with evil.
 

PennEd

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We are tempted by the world, the flesh, and the devil.

These are the 3 forces that Jesus Himself were tempted by in the desert.

God certainly allowed these temptations to come to His Son, so I have no idea why the OP thinks they wouldn't also tempt us.
 

JaumeJ

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We must all be aware of just who it was tempting, attempting to tempt, our Lord. It is the same for all of us, and we are to resist the Devil as best we are given to do. Eventually he will flee away.
 
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But the biggest most biggest most evil doctrin from hell is the one that says God allows evil to tempt or test people into sin, or God allows evil to test humans to see if they will sin. for many reasons but just one brief insight, is evil will always try to justify its presence, by saying God sent me, why well evil wants to defile Gods holy word. ...
Calvinism, perhaps?
W.G.T. Shedd:
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*** “God by his providence permitted some of the angels willfully and irrecoverably, to fall into sin and damnation…ordering that, and all their sins, to his glory.” ...

http://archive.org/details/calvinismpuremix00shed/page/34/mode/2up?view=theater

The mental gymnastics were quite amazing, but with someone not as lithe...
 

ResidentAlien

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Last night it occurred to me, I doubt it will ever be banned because if it did 99% of the people here would depart.