Without authentic Jews, Premillennialism doesn't have a view.

[pittsburghjoe]

Authentic Jews couldn't be Reborn like us ...they couldn't be spiritually resurrected like us ...they couldn't perceive the test we are in. If GOD Sealed a Jew, they had Faith in The City built without hands and were Later resurrected with/after CHRIST.

People that call themselves "Jews" today don't have access to the Image of The Last Adam because they REFUSE The High Priest, Lord JESUS CHRIST.

The City built without hands is The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST. You can't claim to be a Jew with Faith in It after JESUS Arrived!
THE KINGDOM IS NOW.


Do you stick your head in the sand when it comes to 70 A.D.? Pentecost involved authentic Jews ...but things changed after 70 A.D.

In what world can a Jew claim they are a Jew without Atonement or a High Priest? They would just be like anyone else that doesn't believe in JESUS.

You say, oh well they have Abraham ...well, Abraham was about Faith in The City built without hands ...and as i already said ...that is The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST ...what more can i say to get through to them?

Authentic Jews are very much The Root ...that isn't what we have walking around today.

JESUS Fulfilled Mosaic Law, aka JESUS Ended Mosaic Law because Everything is Through Him. You don't get to say you are a Jew anymore without JESUS.

Romans 9:32
Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

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"Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, fulfilled the old covenant- death for sin. This was mercy for our unrighteousness, our sins have been wiped clean by His blood. To uphold the old covenant we’d have to reject Christ's Fulfillment of it and the new covenant He brought to us."

i got this last bit from here: https://www.quora.com/Did-God-chang...e&__sncid__=23673019422&__snid3__=32440297590

 

[JaumeJ]

Prior to our Lord's advent there was no denomination for Israel other than the Faith of Abraham, and this includes the Jews who formed but one of the Twelve tribes.

All whom Jesus Yeshua has drawn to the Praisers of Yah, Jews , were joined by the Good Shepherd to His original flock, and all who believe Jesus Yeshua are Praisers of Yah, God.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Prior to our Lord's advent there was no denomination for Israel other than the Faith of Abraham, and this includes the Jews who formed but one of the Twelve tribes.

All whom Jesus Yeshua has drawn to the Praisers of Yah, Jews , were joined by the Good Shepherd to His original flock, and all who believe Jesus Yeshua are Praisers of Yah, God.

There isn't anymore Tribes, 70 A.D. ended them ...you being a Messianic Jew ...are the only type of Jew that can exist.

 

[JaumeJ]

There isn't anymore Tribes, 70 A.D. ended them ...you being a Messianic Jew ...are the only type of Jew that can exist.

Sorry, you a wrong on a count, for I am not a Messianic Jew. The Tribes will be reunified come th Kingsom, and this is what kGod will do, not you, not I. It will be glorious for all who love Jesus Yeshua.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Sorry, you a wrong on a count, for I am not a Messianic Jew. The Tribes will be reunified come th Kingsom, and this is what kGod will do, not you, not I. It will be glorious for all who love Jesus Yeshua.

So, you didn't read the post then. JESUS was the end of The Law ...WAKE UP.

To uphold the old covenant we’d have to reject Christ's Fulfillment of it and the new covenant He brought to us.

How are you not Messianic if you Believe in JESUS?

 

[Heaven_Bound]

SCIENCE proves Genomes/DNA are traced back between Modern Jews to Ancient Jews.

Why would you accept Opinion over Scientific Fact concerning Jews?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

SCIENCE proves Genomes/DNA are traced back between Modern Jews to Ancient Jews.

Why would you accept Opinion over Scientific Fact concerning Jews?

What good is that DNA if they don't have a High Priest or Atonement?

 

[Heaven_Bound]

What good is that DNA if they don't have a High Priest or Atonement?

Because the Video you posted claims there is no biological connection but that is a lie.

When the Jews cried out to Pilate to Crucify Christ and let His Blood be upon them for Generations, what do you think the Holocaust was? If the curse is upon the Jews to this day, so is the Promise of their Restoration. That makes them important to God. Anything important to God better be important to us who follow God!

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Because the Video you posted claims there is no biological connection but that is a lie.

When the Jews cried out to Pilate to Crucify Christ and let His Blood be upon them for Generations, what do you think the Holocaust was? If the curse is upon the Jews to this day, so is the Promise of their Restoration. That makes them important to God. Anything important to God better be important to us who follow God!

You think the holocaust was somehow proof ...do you think other horrible things didn't happen to the same type of people ...aka any religion that doesn't have Lord JESUS CHRIST?

 

[Heaven_Bound]

You think the holocaust was somehow proof ...do you think other horrible things didn't happen to the same type of people ...aka any religion that doesn't have Lord JESUS CHRIST?

Their Belief System is still based upon God, Our God! But for thousands of years, God denied the Gentiles in Favor of the Jews. We just happen to be in the Age where that has reversed. But we still read that God will save the Future Jews. This is only a temporary issue because of God's Plan. But soon enough, the Jews will accept Christ.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Their Belief System is still based upon God, Our God! But for thousands of years, God denied the Gentiles in Favor of the Jews. We just happen to be in the Age where that has reversed. But we still read that God will save the Future Jews. This is only a temporary issue because of God's Plan. But soon enough, the Jews will accept Christ.

Is anyone here capable of reading the entire original post?

 

[Heaven_Bound]

Is anyone here capable of reading the entire original post?

On the flip side, not everyone that calls Jesus, LORD, will be saved. We only know how God looked upon the Pharisees. We don't know how God is looking at each individual Jew since many have never been taught about Christ.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Sorry, you a wrong on a count, for I am not a Messianic Jew. The Tribes will be reunified come th Kingsom, and this is what kGod will do, not you, not I. It will be glorious for all who love Jesus Yeshua.

Oh, i get it, you are like the Hebrew Roots people pretending JESUS didn't Fulfill anything ...You don't believe in JESUS ...you are a clown.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Is anyone here capable of reading the entire original post?

Everyone is capable of reading your post, but why bother with nonsense? Every statement in it is nonsensical.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Everyone is capable of reading your post, but why bother with nonsense? Every statement in it is nonsensical.

i get it, you have guarded yourself, you like your view ...it lets you sin ..it doesn't end well though.

Premillennialism is thinking JESUS is going to Reign with a Rod of Iron …physically on earth for a thousand years …from Jerusalem. Premills want a beast king just like Jews wanted. They think some physical mark of the beast has to happen and for Jews to build a Temple on land they don’t even own. To top it off they hand The Covenant from Daniel’s 70 Weeks to the antichrist …sacrilegious.
They want some 1000 years where we have direct evidence of a physical GOD making Faith for SALVATION impossible.

Premillennialism is an elaborate excuse to avoid being a Citizen of The Kingdom today ...to be a Child of GOD ...to have a welcoming Temple for GOD'S Presence to be in. What do you think that Oil was about with the Parable of the Ten Virgins?

it's an excuse to not get Right with GOD. You tell yourself, "Oh, if i see that Temple being built or see a real mark of the beast, i'll stop sinning." You know a finite Reign with a physical GOD doesn't make any sense ...you just want to sin.

 

[SomeDisciple]

You've really gotta stop straw-manning premillenialists. It makes you look bad, and it discredits your own position.
A lot of pre-mils believe in a pre-trib rapture, and say gentiles can't be saved after the rapture- so the end result is still "you're screwed if you don't repent now", so idk what you're going on about people wanting to sin for. I'm pretty sure there's no one that actually teaches that you can or should time your repentance to when you think Jesus will return...

70 AD was the destruction of the city of Jerusalem- everybody knows that, Israel suffered a total military defeat, and were scattered. But you're talking like they were completely eradicated, and that just didnt happen. People disagree with amillenialism, I think, for the same reason they disagree with preterism. They just don't see certain things as having happened already.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You've really gotta stop straw-manning premillenialists. It makes you look bad, and it discredits your own position.
A lot of pre-mils believe in a pre-trib rapture, and say gentiles can't be saved after the rapture- so the end result is still "you're screwed if you don't repent now", so idk what you're going on about people wanting to sin for. I'm pretty sure there's no one that actually teaches that you can or should time your repentance to when you think Jesus will return...

70 AD was the destruction of the city of Jerusalem- everybody knows that, Israel suffered a total military defeat, and were scattered. But you're talking like they were completely eradicated, and that just didnt happen. People disagree with amillenialism, I think, for the same reason they disagree with preterism. They just don't see certain things as having happened already.

Everything has to be in the future because you can't handle what It is saying. Everything is literal to you.

 

[JStates]

There isn't anymore Tribes, 70 A.D. ended them ...you being a Messianic Jew ...are the only type of Jew that can exist.

Revelation speaks of 144,000 being saved out of the twelve tribes. So they aren't quite done away with, but they are very confused right now. There are actually 13 tribes now, the 13th being Gentile believers. We are Jews who are in Christ. Spiritual Jews, not after the flesh.

 

[JaumeJ]

Oh, i get it, you are like the Hebrew Roots people pretending JESUS didn't Fulfill anything ...You don't believe in JESUS ...you are a clown.

I am very sorry you have this opinion. Be blessed with understandign from our Father, amen.

 

[JaumeJ]

So, you didn't read the post then. JESUS was the end of The Law ...WAKE UP.

To uphold the old covenant we’d have to reject Christ's Fulfillment of it and the new covenant He brought to us.

How are you not Messianic if you Believe in JESUS?

We must all give absolute credence to what our Lord has taught us about the law and grace. You are not doing this in this declaration. God bless you and grant you to understand Him.