Doomsday Preppers
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no, only if you had a dream like Joseph. did anyone you know have a dream about the future?
wait hold in didnt John write it all down in Revelation.
the manna was in the desert...if you are living in the wilderness then it was a God given thing. But few of us are living in the wilderness now. You can always grow you own now nothing to stop you but for lack of water.
most peoole living in temperate climates where there is snow and winter make provision for those times.
wait hold in didnt John write it all down in Revelation.
the manna was in the desert...if you are living in the wilderness then it was a God given thing. But few of us are living in the wilderness now. You can always grow you own now nothing to stop you but for lack of water.
most peoole living in temperate climates where there is snow and winter make provision for those times.
It's sort of like the prophets prophesying evil of Israel back then no one thought they were telling the truth. In these modern days the majority spend all of their time reading and either trying to figure out how it was all already fulfilled back then or else read and try to see it as things that will go on after they have left the earth.
The truth is none see to look at today and now and see what is happening but when they are faced with growing enough food on their apartment patios or in the yard around their houses they will realize that they don't have enough land to feed themselves and realize that the trap is sprung and they have walked into it.
Exactly.
I am thinking that - long before anyone will have to deal with a mark-of-the-beast type of food shortage (not being able to buy or sell) - the more immediate need is-and-will-be [merely] finding food having a good (or even decent) level of nutritional value.
These days, the only way to get any food with truly good nutritional value is to grow your own. And, that can be difficult if you have soil-depletion issues to deal with. (Or, other things that adversely affect the growing environment.)
Just about everything you can buy at the average grocery store today has 'junk' (what I like to generically call "laboratory chemicals") in it.
Additionally, there is the GMO problem...
As time goes on, these things will probably worsen.
I am thinking that - long before anyone will have to deal with a mark-of-the-beast type of food shortage (not being able to buy or sell) - the more immediate need is-and-will-be [merely] finding food having a good (or even decent) level of nutritional value.
These days, the only way to get any food with truly good nutritional value is to grow your own. And, that can be difficult if you have soil-depletion issues to deal with. (Or, other things that adversely affect the growing environment.)
Just about everything you can buy at the average grocery store today has 'junk' (what I like to generically call "laboratory chemicals") in it.
Additionally, there is the GMO problem...
As time goes on, these things will probably worsen.
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Quite frankly I don’t know how to live without electricity plumbing air conditioning cars these things in America and a lot of places have them too, I’ve been camping but not really living off the land, as I see on tv of other places in this world and some places even that is not enough for people to live. when I see these things it’s heart breaking and look at myself and the things I may be trivial over and reminds me I’m lucky I’m breathing.
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I am inclined to believe that Christians need not be as concerned about facing "taking the mark of the beast" as they should be concerned about facing "worshiping the beast" - which is much more highly probable.
If you read the applicable verses in scripture very carefully, you should see that "worship the beast" is first enforced - then, those who will worship the beast are given the mark.
Those who will not worship the beast will be beheaded.
This is a very practical way to do it - it saves a lot of "wasted" money, time, and effort "administering" the mark.
It makes no sense to give anyone the mark if they are going to refuse to worship the beast.
I believe the correct order will be - demand that everyone worship the beast - kill the ones who refuse - mark the rest...
If you read the applicable verses in scripture very carefully, you should see that "worship the beast" is first enforced - then, those who will worship the beast are given the mark.
Those who will not worship the beast will be beheaded.
This is a very practical way to do it - it saves a lot of "wasted" money, time, and effort "administering" the mark.
It makes no sense to give anyone the mark if they are going to refuse to worship the beast.
I believe the correct order will be - demand that everyone worship the beast - kill the ones who refuse - mark the rest...
at 7.5 billion population and 16.1 million square miles of land on the planet it wont work. It takes at least 5 acres of arable land to survive. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/arable
google "arable land" at around 10 billion population the planet will no longer sustain life(approx 2050). https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/arable-land
doomsday = a time of trouble that results in destruction, death....etc. you can kid yourself and believe that guns and stored food will protect you, but desperate people do desperate things and if people are starving to death and you have food, well they'll kill for it. Why do people store up things? The motive is selfishness, you can call it wisdom, but it's selfishness. Love your neighbour as yourself, if people come to you and ask for a cup of rice, would you give your last cup when things are tough? The time of trouble that causes us to depend on God and trust Him with our life will test the true believers from those that trust in their own strength. Jesus gave His life as an offering and those that followed Jesus did the same.
Eph_5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour.
Php 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
Php 1:22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
1Ki 17:14-16 For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth. 15 And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days. 16 And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.
1Ki 19:5 And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree, behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise and eat.
1Ki 19:6 And he looked, and, behold, there was a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again.
1Ki 19:7 And the angel of the LORD came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee.
1Ki 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.
The journey is too great for us so we need to trust in God. Try and do it in our power and we will surely fail. Ask yourself what your motives are, and remember Joh_15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Eph_5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour.
Php 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
Php 1:22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
1Ki 17:14-16 For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth. 15 And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days. 16 And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.
1Ki 19:5 And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree, behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise and eat.
1Ki 19:6 And he looked, and, behold, there was a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again.
1Ki 19:7 And the angel of the LORD came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee.
1Ki 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.
The journey is too great for us so we need to trust in God. Try and do it in our power and we will surely fail. Ask yourself what your motives are, and remember Joh_15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
duly noted Isaiah 2:4,,,Joel 3:12,,,Micah ..."swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks..." that is eventually someone will realize that at 7680,000,000 acres of land divided by 7.5 billion (current world population) if we equally divided the arable land on the planet and gave everyone their share today in 2019 everyone would have 1.024 acres.
Now it takes about 5 acres for one person to be self sustaining so it's already 4 acres to short. And now we know why all the stuff at the grocery stores have cellulose fiber as a filler to expand the contents. https://www.rd.com/health/healthy-eating/the-fib-about-some-high-fiber-foods/
We were never promised tomorrow. Whats coming as in great Tribulation God never said He would guide us by day and night through it. He did promise we would never see His wrath. And that we have all power not some but all power over the enemy. Nothing can change that. He can not take Christ out of us so the lawless one can have power over us.
As I understand I have no right to tell YOU/OTHERS what HIS word really says
"Doomsday Preppers". Christ said your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Ever wonder how it is in heaven? All GOOD things come from God. I can't speak for anyone else but when I read the word and what He says IS coming. I have no fear what so ever. I then compare that to ...as said here "doomsday preppers". I get no peace but fear and no hope. That does not mean one is not saved.
We have every right to prepare for tomorrow. But we were again never promised tomorrow. I know what I was promised by my Father. I know the rights I have in Christ through Christ. I KNOW what I will never see yet I always look up. I am right now ready. For today is all I have. Some do infact have more faith in a day they may never see. So I choose to be ready now. For it will always be NOW when He comes. I will always be ready. I am in that house I am looking always for His return. "I will fear no more "The Afters""
As I understand I have no right to tell YOU/OTHERS what HIS word really says
"Doomsday Preppers". Christ said your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Ever wonder how it is in heaven? All GOOD things come from God. I can't speak for anyone else but when I read the word and what He says IS coming. I have no fear what so ever. I then compare that to ...as said here "doomsday preppers". I get no peace but fear and no hope. That does not mean one is not saved.We have every right to prepare for tomorrow. But we were again never promised tomorrow. I know what I was promised by my Father. I know the rights I have in Christ through Christ. I KNOW what I will never see yet I always look up. I am right now ready. For today is all I have. Some do infact have more faith in a day they may never see. So I choose to be ready now. For it will always be NOW when He comes. I will always be ready. I am in that house I am looking always for His return. "I will fear no more "The Afters""
You have some seriously interesting threads. Anyways, I was a prepper type in my 20's. After my salvation in 2016, my life has been too unsettled to really do much along these lines. I'm getting ready to move to Tennessee very soon, however (Lord willing), and will likely begin to make buying some land and achieving food independence a real priority.
Ephesians 4:28 "Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth."
^ I've never been a thief but the general principle of the verse holds true. I want to be someone who is in a position to do good to others. In this world, our food and water are increasingly poisoned and it's possible that people will begin facing restrictions when buying food very soon going forward (ie, vax passes).
There are terrible things coming for this country, which I wrote about in my second book "How America Ends." Mystery Babylon is about to fall.
Ephesians 4:28 "Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth."
^ I've never been a thief but the general principle of the verse holds true. I want to be someone who is in a position to do good to others. In this world, our food and water are increasingly poisoned and it's possible that people will begin facing restrictions when buying food very soon going forward (ie, vax passes).
There are terrible things coming for this country, which I wrote about in my second book "How America Ends." Mystery Babylon is about to fall.
Hehe you have no idea
Yes, but I don't think only for this country. I was planting stuff but didn't continue will start again and really thinking about community living or something. but I suppose I need friends for that
Yes, but I don't think only for this country. I was planting stuff but didn't continue will start again and really thinking about community living or something. but I suppose I need friends for that
But for some reason I have another view of things from my studies of Mystery Babylon in the Scriptures, and this is what I wrote my book about. Too much to go into here right now, but maybe I'll start a thread about it here on CC at some point. I would be very interested in getting some seriously rooted biblical scrutiny of things. Daniel 7 depicts the last four human empires as great beasts rising from the sea. The very last one is the terrible horned beast kingdom of the Antichrist that we see in Revelation. But I simply do not see that the first three beasts have had their time yet. The first beast is a lion with eagle's wings, a sigil of ancient Babylon.
In Revelation, we see the harlot Mystery Babylon riding upon the terrible horned beast kingdom of the Antichrist, which then turns and burns her with fire. Sequentially speaking, I believe that the Fall of Mystery Babylon MUST precede the eventual rise of the Antichrist kingdom, so despite what we are seeing in the world right now, I still think there are several empires which must fall and rise before the end of history.
The Bible has a lot to say about Mystery Babylon in Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Revelation. It is clearly the United States of America.
Jeremiah described a civil war in Mystery Babylon which would precede her end. During this civil war, a coalition of foreign powers will destroy her with a (probably nuclear) first strike in just one day. Actually in my book, which was published in 2019, I talked about the possibility of a fixed Presidential election leading to that civil war. Heh.
Ugh, I could go on about this all day. I'm actually thinking about publishing an updated book, but I've got so much on my plate right now...
I actually thought about communal living too for a while, but honestly I couldn't do it with just anyone. Family or very close friends maybe, but my social circles are very small right now.
I am very much interested in this topic, haha. Why do you think there are several empires that must fall and rise? or which one's do you think they are? and if we're not in or near the end times where are we, in bible prophecy ?
I've tried finding websites on community living and I found one the other day and it talks about living in community and working out of love rather than money and I think it's really cool. lol I joined maybe that'll work for me haha. But yes it probably wouldn't be best in large group or just anyone.
? I've tried finding websites on community living and I found one the other day and it talks about living in community and working out of love rather than money and I think it's really cool. lol I joined maybe that'll work for me haha. But yes it probably wouldn't be best in large group or just anyone.
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why would they be gathering supplies I wonder there isn’t going to be a supply shortage
“For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Matthew 24:38-39
many have an idea that the world is going to be thrown into utter chaos just before Christ comes but he is saying the world will be going on as normal and he will come suddenly and unexpectedly
I think we should be getting prepared spiritually repenting of sin and. Starting to love other people Christs way because the end is actually going to be in spiritual chaos and already is in the last days
The chaos is actually going to be inside of mankind
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
2 Timothy 3:1
it seems like the world today but physically the world is going to be continuing on like normal just full of all that wickedness in man like it is now
“For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Matthew 24:38-39
many have an idea that the world is going to be thrown into utter chaos just before Christ comes but he is saying the world will be going on as normal and he will come suddenly and unexpectedly
I think we should be getting prepared spiritually repenting of sin and. Starting to love other people Christs way because the end is actually going to be in spiritual chaos and already is in the last days
The chaos is actually going to be inside of mankind
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
2 Timothy 3:1
it seems like the world today but physically the world is going to be continuing on like normal just full of all that wickedness in man like it is now