Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.
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Many of us see "the man of sin be revealed" as occurring at the BEGINNING of those 7 years, rather than at the 2Th2:4 ("sitteth in the temple of God") point in the chronology which is mid-trib (as is Matt24:15,21... Dan12:11,[1-3,6-7]... Rev13:5-7,[1]... Dan7:20-25,27... Rev12:12,14,9... and other "mid-trib" events in the overall chronology of the "7 years");
in the various texts covering this Subject, the correlations connecting the "BEGINNING," the "MIDDLE," and the "END" points are informative in this regard.
in the various texts covering this Subject, the correlations connecting the "BEGINNING," the "MIDDLE," and the "END" points are informative in this regard.
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Technically, the man of sin is revealed before the Coming of the Lord. Nowhere does Scripture claim at the Beginning, but it does claim more towards the middle. It's not till midpoint we see the False Prophet ordering to take the Mark. It is possible we Believers and Followers of God could recognize the man of sin before he is revealed, but Scripture does not make such a claim.
To say, many of us see this at the Beginning, does not align with Scripture, but there is also no Scripture that tells us we won't be able to recognize him before he is revealed.
Your post is one that cannot be proven in any way. And honestly, I don't see not why that we won't be able to recognize him before he is revealed. But that is solely based upon the "could be" factor, not an actual fact.
To say, many of us see this at the Beginning, does not align with Scripture, but there is also no Scripture that tells us we won't be able to recognize him before he is revealed.
Your post is one that cannot be proven in any way. And honestly, I don't see not why that we won't be able to recognize him before he is revealed. But that is solely based upon the "could be" factor, not an actual fact.
13 The dragon[a] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.'''''
5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.......
5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.......
I believe this is an insightful comment. I do believe in a posttrib rapture, just not in the traditional sense. 1 Thess. 5:9 speaks about God not intending the church to suffer his wrath. Yes, Noah was present during God's judgement, but of course did not suffer it. Noah was kept hidden in the Lord during this time of wrath. Your comment caused me to interpret 1 Thess. 5:9 more clearly. The tribulation or suffering we will continue to go through in the midst of Daniel's 70th week is perhaps part of a general Day of the Lord before great tribulation comes to Israel.
I have come to believe in a multiple rapture theory. I do think the first harpazo event will take place after the tribulation of the time of sorrows mentioned in Matthew 24:4-8 within Daniel's 70th week. The second rapture event will occur for the remnant of Israel and other gentiles who come to the Lord and survive the great tribulation. Then the prophesied Day of the Lord will begin.
I know many who believe in pre-trib claim we are not in Daniel's 70th week. It seems quite clear we are experiencing Matthew 24:4-8 now. I don't agree that the entirety of Matthew 24 applies only to the remnant of Israel. I hold to the view that this is a parallel to Revelation 6 and that we are now in Daniel's 70th week. The acceptance of this view, in part,” observes John McLean, “is dependent on how much weight is given to the parallels between the synoptics and Revelation.” 6 Since all futurists see the Olivet Discourse as parallel to Revelation to some degree, it makes sense that these two portions of Scripture would be focused on the same basic time period—the tribulation (Daniel's 70th week). I don't see the Daniel 9:27 verse as sufficient evidence to state that the confirming of the covenant with many begins Daniel's 70th week. In my view, the church will be glorified in the midst of Daniel's 70th week during a time of judgement that could be called the DOL in the OT sense. This glorification of the church (Isaiah 60:1-3, Daniel 12:1-3) Ken Peters witnessed in his "vision of the tribulation." The first harpazo event will occur after many come to the Lord Jesus. Others, will becomes martyrs according to Revelation 2:10 as they face persecution from Mystery Babylon.
I have come to believe in a multiple rapture theory. I do think the first harpazo event will take place after the tribulation of the time of sorrows mentioned in Matthew 24:4-8 within Daniel's 70th week. The second rapture event will occur for the remnant of Israel and other gentiles who come to the Lord and survive the great tribulation. Then the prophesied Day of the Lord will begin.
I know many who believe in pre-trib claim we are not in Daniel's 70th week. It seems quite clear we are experiencing Matthew 24:4-8 now. I don't agree that the entirety of Matthew 24 applies only to the remnant of Israel. I hold to the view that this is a parallel to Revelation 6 and that we are now in Daniel's 70th week. The acceptance of this view, in part,” observes John McLean, “is dependent on how much weight is given to the parallels between the synoptics and Revelation.” 6 Since all futurists see the Olivet Discourse as parallel to Revelation to some degree, it makes sense that these two portions of Scripture would be focused on the same basic time period—the tribulation (Daniel's 70th week). I don't see the Daniel 9:27 verse as sufficient evidence to state that the confirming of the covenant with many begins Daniel's 70th week. In my view, the church will be glorified in the midst of Daniel's 70th week during a time of judgement that could be called the DOL in the OT sense. This glorification of the church (Isaiah 60:1-3, Daniel 12:1-3) Ken Peters witnessed in his "vision of the tribulation." The first harpazo event will occur after many come to the Lord Jesus. Others, will becomes martyrs according to Revelation 2:10 as they face persecution from Mystery Babylon.