The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.

[Marilyn]

The False Teaching of what happens at the Rapture.

I believe people have been taught through preaching, books, videos etc a wrong view of what happens at the Rapture.

This false teaching says that when people are caught away to meet the Lord others will see them rise in the air, and great devastation will happen. Planes will fall out of the sky as Christian pilots are taken away, plus cars and buses, trains etc will all crash because their drivers were believers and were caught away.

People are told that unbelievers will be shocked and horrified as they realise they have been `left behind.`

None of this is a true picture, I believe, of what will really happen at the rapture.

The Truth of what will happen at the Rapture.

God`s word says that we will see that Day, (of the Lord) approaching and thus get together more.

`...exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

I believe the Holy Spirit will be stirring our spirits expectantly so that we know the time is very close.

`To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear...` (Heb. 9: 28)

In the world people will think WW 3 is happening. The Russian Federation plus Iran, Ethiopia and Libya, (Ez. 38: 1 - 5) will be brought down by God to the mountains of Israel for judgment. The amassing of those troops will be very plain to see. Even now there is movement in those nations. People of the world will be looking at their phones, TV, etc in great fear of a nuclear World War.

The Lockdowns due to a supposed pandemic will keep people separate from others. Most will only be concerned with getting supplies, (which may be limited) and returning home.

Then when those who are eagerly waiting and looking for the Lord are taken, their bodies will be changed and there will be nothing left to indicate where they are. If some people do notice that so and so is not around there are many reasons for that - gone into a covid quarantine camp, visiting relatives, gone on holiday, etc etc.

Have you ever thought about this?

 

[Subhumanoidal]

 

[Mem]

 

[Blain]

The False Teaching of what happens at the Rapture.

I believe people have been taught through preaching, books, videos etc a wrong view of what happens at the Rapture.

This false teaching says that when people are caught away to meet the Lord others will see them rise in the air, and great devastation will happen. Planes will fall out of the sky as Christian pilots are taken away, plus cars and buses, trains etc will all crash because their drivers were believers and were caught away.

People are told that unbelievers will be shocked and horrified as they realise they have been `left behind.`

None of this is a true picture, I believe, of what will really happen at the rapture.

The Truth of what will happen at the Rapture.

God`s word says that we will see that Day, (of the Lord) approaching and thus get together more.

`...exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

I believe the Holy Spirit will be stirring our spirits expectantly so that we know the time is very close.

`To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear...` (Heb. 9: 28)

In the world people will think WW 3 is happening. The Russian Federation plus Iran, Ethiopia and Libya, (Ez. 38: 1 - 5) will be brought down by God to the mountains of Israel for judgment. The amassing of those troops will be very plain to see. Even now there is movement in those nations. People of the world will be looking at their phones, TV, etc in great fear of a nuclear World War.

The Lockdowns due to a supposed pandemic will keep people separate from others. Most will only be concerned with getting supplies, (which may be limited) and returning home.

Then when those who are eagerly waiting and looking for the Lord are taken, their bodies will be changed and there will be nothing left to indicate where they are. If some people do notice that so and so is not around there are many reasons for that - gone into a covid quarantine camp, visiting relatives, gone on holiday, etc etc.

Have you ever thought about this?

I think your pretty much on point. I especially caught attention of when you said the spirit will be stirring when it is near because in all my rapture dreams I have had there was this sense of knowing inside that it was close pure joy and excitement

 

[BonnieClaire]

The rapture happened late yesterday...I guess you guys missed it too

 

[CS1]

The False Teaching of what happens at the Rapture.

I believe people have been taught through preaching, books, videos etc a wrong view of what happens at the Rapture.

This false teaching says that when people are caught away to meet the Lord others will see them rise in the air, and great devastation will happen. Planes will fall out of the sky as Christian pilots are taken away, plus cars and buses, trains etc will all crash because their drivers were believers and were caught away.

People are told that unbelievers will be shocked and horrified as they realise they have been `left behind.`

None of this is a true picture, I believe, of what will really happen at the rapture.

The Truth of what will happen at the Rapture.

God`s word says that we will see that Day, (of the Lord) approaching and thus get together more.

`...exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

I believe the Holy Spirit will be stirring our spirits expectantly so that we know the time is very close.

`To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear...` (Heb. 9: 28)

In the world people will think WW 3 is happening. The Russian Federation plus Iran, Ethiopia and Libya, (Ez. 38: 1 - 5) will be brought down by God to the mountains of Israel for judgment. The amassing of those troops will be very plain to see. Even now there is movement in those nations. People of the world will be looking at their phones, TV, etc in great fear of a nuclear World War.

The Lockdowns due to a supposed pandemic will keep people separate from others. Most will only be concerned with getting supplies, (which may be limited) and returning home.

Then when those who are eagerly waiting and looking for the Lord are taken, their bodies will be changed and there will be nothing left to indicate where they are. If some people do notice that so and so is not around there are many reasons for that - gone into a covid quarantine camp, visiting relatives, gone on holiday, etc etc.

Have you ever thought about this?

Matthew 24:27-39

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.


Thankfully we have the words of Jesus over opinions. I did not see one verse that supports your position. You do not have to agree but, support your position with the word of God or not, I am fine with moving on from this thread

 

[pottersclay]

The False Teaching of what happens at the Rapture.

I believe people have been taught through preaching, books, videos etc a wrong view of what happens at the Rapture.

This false teaching says that when people are caught away to meet the Lord others will see them rise in the air, and great devastation will happen. Planes will fall out of the sky as Christian pilots are taken away, plus cars and buses, trains etc will all crash because their drivers were believers and were caught away.

People are told that unbelievers will be shocked and horrified as they realise they have been `left behind.`

None of this is a true picture, I believe, of what will really happen at the rapture.

The Truth of what will happen at the Rapture.

God`s word says that we will see that Day, (of the Lord) approaching and thus get together more.

`...exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

I believe the Holy Spirit will be stirring our spirits expectantly so that we know the time is very close.

`To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear...` (Heb. 9: 28)

In the world people will think WW 3 is happening. The Russian Federation plus Iran, Ethiopia and Libya, (Ez. 38: 1 - 5) will be brought down by God to the mountains of Israel for judgment. The amassing of those troops will be very plain to see. Even now there is movement in those nations. People of the world will be looking at their phones, TV, etc in great fear of a nuclear World War.

The Lockdowns due to a supposed pandemic will keep people separate from others. Most will only be concerned with getting supplies, (which may be limited) and returning home.

Then when those who are eagerly waiting and looking for the Lord are taken, their bodies will be changed and there will be nothing left to indicate where they are. If some people do notice that so and so is not around there are many reasons for that - gone into a covid quarantine camp, visiting relatives, gone on holiday, etc etc.

Have you ever thought about this?

Nice of you to reinvent this event how ever scripture points out those who wait in expectation are chosen.
Point being that the rapture is not for the whole church but those who are found in Christ and wait in expectation.
No man knows the hour or day there is no countdown pointing to this event.
The parable of the ten virgins show all were sleeping. Don't know about you but when I am excited about something it's hard for me to sleep.
Jesus says it comes when you least expect it. Not when you most expect it. Therefore stay vigilant.

 

[studentoftheword]

The False Teaching of what happens at the Rapture.

I believe people have been taught through preaching, books, videos etc a wrong view of what happens at the Rapture.

This false teaching says that when people are caught away to meet the Lord others will see them rise in the air, and great devastation will happen. Planes will fall out of the sky as Christian pilots are taken away, plus cars and buses, trains etc will all crash because their drivers were believers and were caught away.

I say -----So you believe that every True Christian will be at home just having a feeling that on that day the rapture will be happening then and so they won;t go to work that day ---all the air Pilots and Bus Drivers and Train Operators ---and not one Born Again Christian will be driving their cars that day the rapture happens -------all of us will know and will stay home from our jobs so there will be no accidents happening ---------

This Scripture says that no one will know the day or the hour -----so that goes against your belief -----

Jesus Himself is speaking here ----and says He doesn't know the day ---so I don't think you will have a feeling on that day ------

Mark 13:32 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

I say ------This Scripture in Luke seems to say that it could happen as we sleep ----so we would not have a feeling about it then ------

Luke 17:34-37 - I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. (Read More...)

I say ----This Scripture in 1 Thessalonians seems to say Jesus will come with a SHOUT and with the Voice of the archangel -----sounds like Jesus will make all aware of His appearance -----Just saying -----

1 Thessalonians 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


I believe there could very well be planes --trains and automobile disasters ---all over the place -----People will be in shock and dismay ---there will be utter chaos ---people will be screaming and running around in a panic not knowing what has happened -----and then in utter disbelief and confusion when they can't find their loved ones ---just their clothes are left behind ------

 

[CS1]

there is no gospel of Hollywood , but there are mockers and scoffers in the last days.

 

[kleronomos]

What is the purpose of that? Obviously you have been here a long time and have experienced these discussions but some how has forgotten that some are new, ewes, and what did Jesus tell us? Our duty is to all and to those who have received more, more is expected. I pray 'more' doesn't always look like that.


John 21:14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.

John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

John 21:16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

J

 

[Marilyn]

Matthew 24:27-39

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.


Thankfully we have the words of Jesus over opinions. I did not see one verse that supports your position. You do not have to agree but, support your position with the word of God or not, I am fine with moving on from this thread

Now remember that the revelation of the Body of Christ was NOT given until the Lord gave it to the Apostle Paul. (Eph. 3) Thus what you have quoted is NOT to do with the Body of Christ.

 

[Marilyn]

Nice of you to reinvent this event how ever scripture points out those who wait in expectation are chosen.
Point being that the rapture is not for the whole church but those who are found in Christ and wait in expectation.
No man knows the hour or day there is no countdown pointing to this event.
The parable of the ten virgins show all were sleeping. Don't know about you but when I am excited about something it's hard for me to sleep.
Jesus says it comes when you least expect it. Not when you most expect it. Therefore stay vigilant.

Remember what the Lord said to the Thessalonians - ``But you brethren are NOT IN DARKNESS THAT THIS DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF.` (1 Thess. 5: 4)

It is to those in darkness that the Lord will come as a thief.

 

[Marilyn]

I say -----So you believe that every True Christian will be at home just having a feeling that on that day the rapture will be happening then and so they won;t go to work that day ---all the air Pilots and Bus Drivers and Train Operators ---and not one Born Again Christian will be driving their cars that day the rapture happens -------all of us will know and will stay home from our jobs so there will be no accidents happening ---------

This Scripture says that no one will know the day or the hour -----so that goes against your belief -----

Jesus Himself is speaking here ----and says He doesn't know the day ---so I don't think you will have a feeling on that day ------

Mark 13:32 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

I say ------This Scripture in Luke seems to say that it could happen as we sleep ----so we would not have a feeling about it then ------

Luke 17:34-37 - I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. (Read More...)

I say ----This Scripture in 1 Thessalonians seems to say Jesus will come with a SHOUT and with the Voice of the archangel -----sounds like Jesus will make all aware of His appearance -----Just saying -----

1 Thessalonians 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


I believe there could very well be planes --trains and automobile disasters ---all over the place -----People will be in shock and dismay ---there will be utter chaos ---people will be screaming and running around in a panic not knowing what has happened -----and then in utter disbelief and confusion when they can't find their loved ones ---just their clothes are left behind ------

God`s word says that those in darkness will not know the hour or day, however to those eagerly waiting,`But you brethren are NOT in darkness that this Day should OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF.` (1 Thess. 5: 4)

When Jesus was manifest as a man He didn`t know the time of His returns, however He is now at the right hand of the Father, in the Godhead so He certainly knows when He is coming for His Body and will tell us as we get closer.

`...exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the more AS YOU SEE THE DAY APPROACHING.` (Heb. 10: 25)

Thus we will be gathering together in small groups and not driving or flying planes etc because WE SEE THE DAY APPROACHING!!!

 

[Marilyn]

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So you have heard this before?

 

[Subhumanoidal]

What is the purpose of that? Obviously you have been here a long time and have experienced these discussions but some how has forgotten that some are new, ewes, and what did Jesus tell us? Our duty is to all and to those who have received more, more is expected. I pray 'more' doesn't always look like that.


John 21:14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.

John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

John 21:16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

J

At Least once a week, every week, for 10 years is overkill. That goes way beyond considering new users. There are hundreds of threads on this topic already in existence on this site.
And not just this subject.
And guess what? They ALL end up in major debates, name calling, personal attacks and a variety of different, opposing views.
Not exactly a learning environment. No sheep are fed. I have watched many people leave this site for no reason other than the BDF. Sometimes within a few hours of joining. Because of how nasty it gets in here. So I haven't forgotten anything, you just spoke up not knowing.

 

[pottersclay]

Remember what the Lord said to the Thessalonians - ``But you brethren are NOT IN DARKNESS THAT THIS DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF.` (1 Thess. 5: 4)

It is to those in darkness that the Lord will come as a thief.

True those without the Holy Spirit and those who are not in expectation.

 

[Mem]

Idk, as well as God I mean but, if you can indulge my colorful illustration with a bit of grace, I view it more like divine sunscreen will be applied to us (believers expecting Him), which btw gives us that especially glorious look, while everyone else, who have not been resurrected or otherwise changed in the blink of an eye, will suffer severe Sonburn, and might even die from it, suffering the same fate as the antichrist and the false prophet, and will not to be resurrected until after the thousand years of satan's binding are complete. And then of course, they are resurrected but only to join the dragon in the lake of fire followed only by death itself.

 

[Marilyn]

At Least once a week, every week, for 10 years is overkill. That goes way beyond considering new users. There are hundreds of threads on this topic already in existence on this site.
And not just this subject.
And guess what? They ALL end up in major debates, name calling, personal attacks and a variety of different, opposing views.
Not exactly a learning environment. No sheep are fed. I have watched many people leave this site for no reason other than the BDF. Sometimes within a few hours of joining. Because of how nasty it gets in here. So I haven't forgotten anything, you just spoke up not knowing.

Thank you for your explanation. However I don`t think people have thought through the scriptures that show we will `see the Day approaching,` plus `not get overtaken as a thief,` etc. And especially to be eagerly waiting, and encouraging others.

BTW what is BDF?

If it gets to name calling or personal attacks then I would ask for the thread to be closed.

 

[pottersclay]

True those without the Holy Spirit and those who are not in expectation.

These also can be non born again believers.😗😗

 

[Runningman]

...I don`t think people have thought through the scriptures that show we will `see the Day approaching,` plus `not get overtaken as a thief...

That's another proof of the post-tribulation rapture. The church will be present to see the Day of the Lord coming because the Day of the Lord occurs with the return of Christ and the rapture.