How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

[Charlie24]

i am in great Fear of the LORD to add to or take away from His word's.

i WELCOME your love for me to show where i may have stumbled in "adding to or taking away" from His word's

It is the greatest Blessing for us to do this for each other. In doing so, we avoid judgment.

When i look into Scripture, i have trained my heart to Fear God = Deut 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18-19

Again, if you see me stumble in this PLEASE bring that Scripture to my attention - Thank You Brother

I believe your heart is in the right place, David! What you can't seem to see is that in order to come to the conclusion of a post-trib resurrection only, you must fill in the information not given in scripture to reach that conclusion.

The same is true for us pre-trib believers. If you deny that this is what you are actually doing, then you are not being honest with yourself or the rest of us!

 

[Laura798]

Hey!

2Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 events.....
No?
God bless!

They happen simultaneously— its called 2nd coming for a reason— Christ new the false doctrine was going to happen ahead of time!

If Santa comes and drops off presents and eats his cookies he stills only came one time no matter what he did while he was there.

 

[DavidTree]

Hey!

2Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 events.....
No?
God bless!

Good Morning, in case i missed you on this, you are invited to a Fellowship Breakfast on me at Panera's Bread if you are ever in my area.

2 Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

ONE EVENT = the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ

1st DIRECTIVE of this EVENT = Resurrection of the Dead in Christ(1 Thess 4:13-18) and Gathering of Living/Remaining Saints

 

[Laura798]

I believe your heart is in the right place, David! What you can't seem to see is that in order to come to the conclusion of a post-trib resurrection only, you must fill in the information not given in scripture to reach that conclusion.

The same is true for us pre-trib believers. If you deny that this is what you are actually doing, then you are not being honest with yourself or the rest of us!

Id say the same thing for you guys dear brother— eiseges— putting on the text what isnt there.

 

[oyster67]

Again, if you see me stumble in this PLEASE bring that Scripture to my attention - Thank You Brother

We have. Peace be to you. God does not require perfection on our part. He did all the heavy lifting at Calvary. Rest easy.

 

[Charlie24]

He is just grasping at straws. He knows by now that he is all boobed up...


He makes good coffee, though.

I kinda doubt that, oyster! I just hope they come to

Id say the same thing for you guys dear brother— eiseges— putting on the text what isnt there.

Did I not say that we, too, fill in the gaps? There can be no conclusion if the gaps are not filled!

 

[DavidTree]

I believe your heart is in the right place, David! What you can't seem to see is that in order to come to the conclusion of a post-trib resurrection only, you must fill in the information not given in scripture to reach that conclusion.

The same is true for us pre-trib believers. If you deny that this is what you are actually doing, then you are not being honest with yourself or the rest of us!

Well can you find one Scripture that may pertain to your thought here???

You know, IF we Break Bread Together = We BOTH benefit and get healthier = Together.

But we must both follow the same Commandment and this is Joyous as we humble ourselves at His Feet for His Blessing.

 

[DavidTree]

We have. Peace be to you. God does not require perfection on our part. He did all the heavy lifting at Calvary. Rest easy.

i remember the Scriptures you brought forward and you rearranged the Order of His Coming.
You flipped the rapture to occur before the Resurrection - do you remember that?

 

[Charlie24]

Well can you find one Scripture that may pertain to your thought here???

You know, IF we Break Bread Together = We BOTH benefit and get healthier = Together.

But we must both follow the same Commandment and this is Joyous as we humble ourselves at His Feet for His Blessing.

We can't break bread together until you meet me on neutral ground that we are all filling in the information not given in scripture to form a conclusion.

 

[DavidTree]

I kinda doubt that, oyster! I just hope they come to


Did I not say that we, too, fill in the gaps? There can be no conclusion if the gaps are not filled!

God has already filled in the 'gaps' and has already provided the Conclusion.

Known to God from eternity are all His works. - Acts 15:18

Surely the Lord God does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?

 

[oyster67]

Id say the same thing for you guys dear brother— eiseges— putting on the text what isnt there.

I will just give references then

1Thess 4
Rev 19
Rev 20

 

[DavidTree]

We can't break bread together until you meet me on neutral ground that we are all filling in the information not given in scripture to form a conclusion.

NEUTRAL/SAFE/BLESSED Ground for ALL Saints = Deut 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22: 18-19

 

[Charlie24]

God has already filled in the 'gaps' and has already provided the Conclusion.

Known to God from eternity are all His works. - Acts 15:18

Surely the Lord God does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?

We certainly can't walk together until you come down from that high horse you are riding, and come back to reality!

 

[DavidTree]

I will just give references then

1Thess 4
Rev 19
Rev 20

Thank You Brother

 

[DavidTree]

We certainly can't walk together until you come down from that high horse you are riding, and come back to reality!

IF, i die before His Coming, you will see me on a High Horse in Revelation 19:6-14

From THERE i will come down following the KING

 

[Charlie24]

IF, i die before His Coming, you will see me on a High Horse in Revelation 19:6-14

OK, David! Just remember we are not on the same plain here! One can admit the fill in's of scripture while the other can't lower himself to that fact! With that being the case, I'm not even going to try to reason with you!

 

[oyster67]

i remember the Scriptures you brought forward and you rearranged the Order of His Coming.
You flipped the rapture to occur before the Resurrection - do you remember that?

no

 

[Laura798]

This looks to be " kingdom now"

NAR.

Why then do we call Him Lord?

 

[DavidTree]

OK, David! Just remember we are not on the same plain here! One can admit the fill in's of scripture while the other can't lower himself to that fact! With that being the case, I'm not even going to try to reason with you!

i have lowered myself = there is only one Place where we all meet = at the Feet of JESUS

Where is the Commandment or Allowance to:
1.) 'fill in the gaps'
2.) which then leads to 'he said/he said , she said/she said , we said/they said , anyone can say/no one can say
3.) not submitting to sound doctrine
4.) "did God really say?"

BETTER Way to avoid the confusion is the KID's Formula = Matthew 18:1-3 , Proverbs 30:5-6

 

[oyster67]

We can't break bread together until you meet me on neutral ground that we are all filling in the information not given in scripture to form a conclusion.

Is it OK if I eat your piece then?