PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

[Lucy-Pevensie]

We are now in 2021 and not in 2015!
And the immigrants have nothing to do with Covid.

GENAU!

My point exactly. You keep complaining the the ICU's in Germany are full. And you claim it's all covid patients.
The fact is, the ICU's have been struggling for years. There is no need to keep people living in fear of covid on that basis.
Covid-19 and it's variants are managable and curable.

 

[gb9]

GENAU!

My point exactly. You keep complaining the the ICU's in Germany are full. And you claim it's all covid patients.
The fact is, the ICU's have been struggling for years. There is no need to keep people living in fear of covid on that basis.
Covid-19 and it's variants are managable and curable.

funny how little details like this are left out.

and, with all the media based covid fear, people are afraid to go to the doctor, so a lot of things that may have been prevented from getting serious get serious, due to lack of treatment, not due to overblown, overcounted covid...

 

[ZNP]

More Boosters, More Often: Joe Biden Launches Winter Vaccine Strategy

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...n-joe-biden-launches-winter-vaccine-strategy/

Insanity is doing the same thing and hoping for a different result. Well the results are in Biden is clearly insane. 25th Amendment here we come.

 

[ZNP]

We are now in 2021 and not in 2015!
And the immigrants have nothing to do with Covid.

Wow! That is great! Immigrants don't get Covid! If you are worried about Covid simply immigrate. I would suggest Austria, it is very close and they have a nationwide vaccine mandate.

 

[Aidan1]

GENAU!

My point exactly. You keep complaining the the ICU's in Germany are full. And you claim it's all covid patients.
The fact is, the ICU's have been struggling for years. There is no need to keep people living in fear of covid on that basis.
Covid-19 and it's variants are managable and curable.

This is not correct!in my hospital we have 16 icu beds and 11 are filled with unvaccined covidpatients!
You have no idea about german hospitals.
And you have no idea about Covid.

But please play it down and ignore it.
Thats your choice.

But for to see the reality i dont need to have Internet. I can see it personly. In a neighbour district we are getting covid patients from netherland. In my hospital we got an patient from Bavaria.
So you cant convince me with your view and ignoring the virus.
And if Ivermectin would be the miracle cure for everybody it would be taken as such.
But it is not!!

 

[ZNP]

What is the best way to put an end to the pandemic?

I think it is fair to say that the vaccine does show a temporary effectiveness at reducing severe cases of Covid. The fewer people that get the vaccine the longer the effectiveness will last.

However, it is also fair to say that the vaccine does not prevent you from getting Covid or transmitting it. So to claim that you will help society and keep others safe by getting the vaccine is a proven lie. It is patently false to say that the vaccine should be mandated for the public health.

Yet we don't want to do nothing, what should we do?

1. Emphasize healthy living -- vitamin D, decrease obesity, get exercise, plenty of sleep, stay healthy.

2. Social distancing -- this is truly an effective strategy at reducing the viral load with which someone will be exposed. However, this is somewhat misunderstood. The most important thing is don't go into public if you have fever or symptoms. That is the single most important thing. Take temperatures at the door of schools, etc. The second thing you do is put up these sneeze guards at grocery stores, etc. You want to protect cashiers and bus drivers because they could become super spreaders. Finally, social distancing should be 3 feet not 6 feet. This would allow businesses to be open with minor inconvenience for the most part. Indoor stadiums and theaters are the main group that would be impacted. However, this would be based on metrics indicating when there is a localized issue.

3. Encourage large outdoor events -- Why is it that all those packed out rallies held outdoors never became super spreader events? Trump rallies, and other outdoor events in Florida were all decried as superspreader events and they never materialized. We see packed out stadiums at outdoor football events and they aren't becoming super spreader events. This is because the wind will blow the virus away and the sun will destroy the virus in fifteen minutes. It isn't possible to become concentrated enough to make people very sick (except perhaps in the bathroom or box holding 20 people, etc). As a result many people in these events will presumably get exposed to a very small, weakened viral load and therefore develop immunity without getting sick. I believe this is why Florida is doing the best in the entire country and many of the Red states that held these Trump rallies are doing quite well.

4. Treat people who are sick with therapeutics -- We have Ivermectin which was proven effective in India and HCQ which has been proven effective in Africa. This is undeniable and irrefutable. We also have oxygen. These three things work. Ventilators do not work.

 

[ZNP]

Or you could do this

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/begins-austria-greece-fine-citizens-refuse-get-vaccinated/

 

[Aidan1]

Wow! That is great! Immigrants don't get Covid! If you are worried about Covid simply immigrate. I would suggest Austria, it is very close and they have a nationwide vaccine mandate.

What have the immigrants to do with Covid?

 

[ZNP]

What have the immigrants to do with Covid?

The argument you were making as I understood it is that the unvaccinated are filling up hospitals so there is no room for the vaccinated. Is that correct?

Do immigrants need to use the hospital?

So stop flipping back and forth between two arguments. If the argument is that the hospitals are filled to capacity then lets examine that issue, if the argument is that people who are not vaccinated are a health hazard lets' examine that.

 

[PennEd]

Germany reverting to their Nazi fascism!

Germany Imposes Nationwide Lockdown For the Unvaxxed

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/germany-imposes-nationwide-lockdown-unvaxxed/

 

[gb9]

This is not correct!in my hospital we have 16 icu beds and 11 are filled with unvaccined covidpatients!
You have no idea about german hospitals.
And you have no idea about Covid.

But please play it down and ignore it.
Thats your choice.

But for to see the reality i dont need to have Internet. I can see it personly. In a neighbour district we are getting covid patients from netherland. In my hospital we got an patient from Bavaria.
So you cant convince me with your view and ignoring the virus.
And if Ivermectin would be the miracle cure for everybody it would be taken as such.
But it is not!!

looks like germany is going to begin to slowly push the unvaxxed out of public spaces, and do forced injections next year.

congratulations . hope you are proud of your country and it's government.

 

[HillsboroMom]

I'm wondering if there's anyone here who has gotten one or more doses of any vaccine and has developed negative side effects from it?

It's all well and good to say "I heard that" or "people say that," but without actual evidence, hearsay is just rumors.

 

[ZNP]

Germany reverting to their Nazi fascism!

Germany Imposes Nationwide Lockdown For the Unvaxxed

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/germany-imposes-nationwide-lockdown-unvaxxed/

That is one country to avoid, along with Austria, and Australia, and Greece and Canada, and of course other totalitarian states like China, Iran, N. Korea, Russia...well at least the US is still safe (though you might want to avoid NY and California).

 

[ZNP]

I'm wondering if there's anyone here who has gotten one or more doses of any vaccine and has developed negative side effects from it?

It's all well and good to say "I heard that" or "people say that," but without actual evidence, hearsay is just rumors.

You do realize if a person has had side effects then it is simply anecdotal.

But to answer your question -- I heard today that a sister at our church who felt compelled to get the vaccine because she wanted to be a teacher died, she was on a ventilator.

A week ago our assistant pastor whose wife has cancer and so would have been viewed as high risk had a fainting spell after getting the vaccine.

 

[JTB]

I don't give up on President Trump, God can, always has and always will use anyone to further His plan to redeem mankind to Him.

Trump ain't drawing people to God, he's drawing believers away from God's Truths.

 

[ZNP]

Trump ain't drawing people to God, he's drawing believers away from God's Truths.

I knew that Hunter Biden was an artist, didn't know Trump was also making drawings.

 

[JTB]

Curious ... the anti-vaxers are making 2 opposing arguments. 1 is that all these 'variants' aren't really any different from the original virus, they are just being marketed as such to scare people into getting the jabs. 2 is that the vax won't work on viruses because viruses adapt and mutate too quickly to be controlled jabs.

So which is it ... do viruses mutate or not???

 

[JTB]

I knew that Hunter Biden was an artist, didn't know Trump was also making drawings.

The left deceives the world. The right deceives believers.

Either way, you should have no part with either.

 

[ZNP]

The left deceives the world. The right deceives believers.

Either way, you should have no part with either.

And what do you do about CRT, or election fraud, or the chaos being caused by decriminalizing shoplifting?

This advice to not have anything to do with either is the same thing as telling people to leave the world because it is filled with adulterers. The Lord said we are to be in the world but not of the world. Your teaching tells us to go to some monastery.

 

[HillsboroMom]

You do realize if a person has had side effects then it is simply anecdotal.

True. But anecdotal from a person who has actually experienced something would be better than "my sister's friend's boyfriend knows someone who said that her cousin...." Which is what most of these stories -- including yours -- amount to.

But to answer your question -- I heard today that a sister at our church who felt compelled to get the vaccine because she wanted to be a teacher died, she was on a ventilator.

Ummm ... first, that is the definition of anecdotal. You heard? From whom? From the sister? From someone who knows the sister? From the doctor or nurse who was helping the sister? How reliable is this source? You can't even say who it is who you heard from, so how reliable can an un-named source be?

Second, died from what?

Yesterday, after praying, I got a splitting headache. Therefore prayer causes headaches.

That's ridiculous, isn't it?

It's significantly LESS ridiculous than you saying "someone said that someone else died after getting a vaccine. Therefore the vaccine is bad."

How many people have died from NOT getting the vaccine? MILLIONS!!!! How many have died after getting the vaccine? Well, certainly many. People die every day. They die from all sorts of things -- heart disease, cancer, accidents, murder, etc. Some of them died after getting the vaccine. Some of them died from a complication arising from the vaccine. Like, 3 or 4 out of the billion of vaccines that have been given out.

In other words, your chances of dying from a complication from the vaccine is several THOUSANDS of times smaller than your chance of getting a serious case of COVID, dying from it, giving it to other people, and killing all of them from it as well.

So if you're okay with murdering other people, then don't get the vaccine.

I'm not really okay with hurting other people, so I got vaccinated.