Hitler the seventh head of the beast

[posthuman]

yes in fact he marveled at it but then the angel ask him why and explained it to him...

this man saw the transfiguration!
and how many miracles? more than he could even begin to write!
he walked with Jesus before and after the resurrection, knew Judas, and out-lived all the apostles

what does it take to make John marvel?

 

[Aidan1]

In Revelation 17:9-10 we read: "This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other [the 7th] has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while."

Okay, the 7th king will come sometime after the writing of Revelation and will remain "only a little while." Hitler and Nazis were in power twelve years; relatively speaking a very short time. Revelation 13:3 says one of the heads of the beast had a fatal wound which had been healed: "One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast." It's interesting to note that Hitler died of a gunshot wound to his head.

Revelation 17:11 describes the beast itself as an 8th head: "As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven. . ." v.8 says: "The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit. . ."

So we have a beast which "belongs to the seven" and will be fatally wounded and will rise again. This suggests that the final beast will somehow be in Hitler's image. Not a literal reincarnation necessarily; if Hitler were to be literally reincarnated no one would listen to or follow him. But the final beast will follow in the mold established by Hitler.

I'm reading a very good book called Plotting Hitler's Death: The Story of the German Resistance by Joachim Fest. On pg. 20 there's an interesting account of the mood that was present in Germany shortly after Hitler came to power:

"Wilhelm Hoegner, the future prime minister of Bavaria, recalled wandering through the streets of Munich feeling that all of a sudden they had become hostile and threatening. Helmuth von Molke's mother felt profoundly uprooted, as if she 'no longer belonged to the country.' Others have spoken of losing old friends, of an atmosphere of suspicion, of spying neighbors and the rapid disintegration of their social lives even as the alleged brotherhood of all Germans was being celebrated in delirious parades and pseudo religious services, mass swearing of oaths and vows under domes of light, addresses by the Fuhrer, nightly bonfires on hills and mountains, secular chants and hymns. All this fervor was fueled by the intense sensation that history was in the making." ​

Now let's look at some scriptures that that describe similarities between this and the reign of the Antichrist:

Hostile and threatening: "And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain."—Revelation 13:15

An atmosphere of suspicion: "You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and some of you they will put to death."—Luke 24:16

Brotherhood of all Germans: "and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast."—Revelation 13:3

Pseudo religious services: A lot of people may not be aware that Hitler actually tried to wipe out true Christianity in Germany and replace it with a National "Christian" religion called German Christians. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was one of the true Christians who resisted Hitler and it eventually cost him his life.

Swearing of oaths and vows: "Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed."—Revelation 13:11-12

History in the making: "and they worshiped the beast, saying, 'Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?' "—Revelation 13:4

I'm sure there are plenty of other similarities between Hitler and the final beast. I might add them as I come across them.

Dont make more from Hitler as he was.
For shure he has nothing to do with the beast from revealation.

 

[EmeraldG]

In Revelation 17:9-10 we read: "This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other [the 7th] has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while."

Okay, the 7th king will come sometime after the writing of Revelation and will remain "only a little while." Hitler and Nazis were in power twelve years; relatively speaking a very short time. Revelation 13:3 says one of the heads of the beast had a fatal wound which had been healed: "One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast." It's interesting to note that Hitler died of a gunshot wound to his head.

Revelation 17:11 describes the beast itself as an 8th head: "As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven. . ." v.8 says: "The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit. . ."

So we have a beast which "belongs to the seven" and will be fatally wounded and will rise again. This suggests that the final beast will somehow be in Hitler's image. Not a literal reincarnation necessarily; if Hitler were to be literally reincarnated no one would listen to or follow him. But the final beast will follow in the mold established by Hitler.

I'm reading a very good book called Plotting Hitler's Death: The Story of the German Resistance by Joachim Fest. On pg. 20 there's an interesting account of the mood that was present in Germany shortly after Hitler came to power:

"Wilhelm Hoegner, the future prime minister of Bavaria, recalled wandering through the streets of Munich feeling that all of a sudden they had become hostile and threatening. Helmuth von Molke's mother felt profoundly uprooted, as if she 'no longer belonged to the country.' Others have spoken of losing old friends, of an atmosphere of suspicion, of spying neighbors and the rapid disintegration of their social lives even as the alleged brotherhood of all Germans was being celebrated in delirious parades and pseudo religious services, mass swearing of oaths and vows under domes of light, addresses by the Fuhrer, nightly bonfires on hills and mountains, secular chants and hymns. All this fervor was fueled by the intense sensation that history was in the making." ​

Now let's look at some scriptures that that describe similarities between this and the reign of the Antichrist:

Hostile and threatening: "And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain."—Revelation 13:15

An atmosphere of suspicion: "You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and some of you they will put to death."—Luke 24:16

Brotherhood of all Germans: "and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast."—Revelation 13:3

Pseudo religious services: A lot of people may not be aware that Hitler actually tried to wipe out true Christianity in Germany and replace it with a National "Christian" religion called German Christians. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was one of the true Christians who resisted Hitler and it eventually cost him his life.

Swearing of oaths and vows: "Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed."—Revelation 13:11-12

History in the making: "and they worshiped the beast, saying, 'Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?' "—Revelation 13:4

I'm sure there are plenty of other similarities between Hitler and the final beast. I might add them as I come across them.

Hitler was just another mirror of persecution towards Judaism ("the woman who gave birth to the male child" the Messiah) There have been other persecutions throughout history against Jews and genuine Christians as well, less recent, but not less severe. For instance the Catholic church with its inquisitions and the Roman Empire towards the Jews and early Christians. Hitler was one of the latest atrocities to add in a raw. He was a type of Antichrist but was not the one described in Revelation, neither were all those type of Antichrists who came before. But all had something in common. " Babylon the great, drunk of the blood of the Saints". Hitler wanted to reinstate a super European State like the Roman Empire and Catholicism is nothing else than a reminiscent of the Roman Empire itself, implementing similar ideology, agenda. "The seventh king who is to come and remain for a little while" may as well be a new Roman Emperor ruling during the three and half years of pre and post tribulation. But that time hasn't come yet, thought it seem to be very close.

 

[Nehemiah6]

This is another good example of Hitler as a foreshadowing of the Antichrist

Yes but that does not make him "the seventh head of the beast".

 

[jb]

Is there anyone who has ever thought about this except me? I like hearing everyone's ideas, but I'd especially like to hear from others who may have had this same idea and hear your thoughts. What scriptures are there that lend credence to the theory?

Doesn't "float my boat" dear boy!

And, as you say it's "your" (pet) theory!

 

[iamsoandso]

this man saw the transfiguration!
and how many miracles? more than he could even begin to write!
he walked with Jesus before and after the resurrection, knew Judas, and out-lived all the apostles

what does it take to make John marvel?

What he(John) said made him marvel was the woman drunken with the blood of saints and the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17-6.htm

 

[iamsoandso]

Dont make more from Hitler as he was.
For shure he has nothing to do with the beast from revealation.

Yes I agree as bad as the events of ww2 were on the Jews(horrible) I cannot understand why people equate the events of ww2 fulfilling verses like Revelation 17:6(and others) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17-6.htm because it says outright "blood of the witnesses of Jesus". So the group in Revelation 17:6 are "Christian"(believe in Jesus) and in ww2 the Jews did (not) believe in Jesus,,,they were Jewish. Again not to trivialize what took place in ww2 but to fulfill Scriptures that refer to witnesses of Jesus those events would be in regards to Christians and not Judaism who denies Jesus as the Messiah.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Doesn't "float my boat" dear boy!

And, as you say it's "your" (pet) theory!

As I say? My pet theory? Maybe you say that, I've never said it. Looks like another one heading to the ignore box.

 

[ResidentAlien]

It's surprising to me that so many people are so absolutely sure about something like the beast of Revelation. It makes me wonder if there's an agenda to defend.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I think the answer is in Hitler's Mein Kampf. He believed the reason nations and peoples fail to find deliverance from a sorrowful fate, or fail to realize longings and hopes is because they lack the key ingredient—a man of Destiny. That Hitler saw himself as such is unquestionable. What he seems to be saying is Linge should fight for the next man of Destiny like himself who should arise.

"Generally speaking, every action carried out on the grand style in this world is the expression of a desire that has already existed for a long time in millions of human hearts, a longing which may have been nourished in silence. Yes, it may happen that throughout centuries men may have been yearning for the solution of a definite problem, because they have been suffering under an unendurable order of affairs, without seeing on the far horizon the coming fulfilment of the universal longing. Nations which are no longer capable of finding an heroic deliverance from such a sorrowful fate may be looked upon as effete. But, on the other hand, nothing gives better proof of the vital forces of a people and the consequent guarantee of its right to exist than that one day, through a happy decree of Destiny, a man arises who is capable of liberating his people from some great oppression, or of wiping out some bitter distress, or of calming the national soul which had been tormented through its sense of insecurity, and thus fulfilling what had long been the universal yearning of the people."—Mein Kampf, James Murphy translation, pg. 407.​

It doesn't seem Hitler had anyone specific in mind when he said "the coming man," but prophetic words have been spoken by others who did not realize they were speaking prophetically.

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[Blik]

Dont make more from Hitler as he was.
For shure he has nothing to do with the beast from revealation.

But Hitler does have to do with God in our lives. If the people of Germany had held fast to the principles of the Lord, Hitler could not have happened.

It is worthwhile to make a study of the steps Hitler took to gain control and watch our own countries today to be sure they are not taking those steps. Hitler made the family less important than the state so the state took over what God gave families to do.

Scripture tells us to obey the rules of the kingdoms of the flesh we live in, Hitler changed this to say that God wants you to put his rules before and more important than God's rules.

Hitler said they had terrible enemies they must fight and kill. The Lord says to befriend your enemies and do good.

 

[SomeDisciple]

The whole thing with Hitler was at the very least, a type and shadow. The dude relocates to Germany, the Altar of Pergamum- biblically referred to as the "Throne of Satan" by Paul... which is now in Turkey.... where the actual anti-christ is supposed to come from, IIRC.

I forget all the details, but when I was casually researching this subject a few years ago, I noticed a stupidly high amount of biblical parallels- so, I would never just dismissively brush this topic away. Wiped out 2/3 of the european jews- that's a proportion that should ring a bell.

I know architecture from antiquity is nice- I'm a huge fan myself- but if someone is speaking from something an apostle calls the "throne of satan", some lights should come on in our heads, and we should maybe take a little mental note of that.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

All the heads are in the bible. The 7 heads are from Daniel's beasts.
1) babylon (lion)
2) medo-persia (bear)
3-6) helenistic (leopard with 4 heads - macedonia (cassander), seleucid (seleucus), levant (lysimachus), egypt (ptolemy)
7) rome (beast with 10 horns)

5 was - babylon, persia, macedonia (cassander),egypt(ptolemy), seleucid (seleucus) - no imperial seat within the beast after John's revelation.
1 is - rome (at the time of John's writing)
1 is yet to come - lysimachus constantinople (byzantine empire of the 10 horns)

 

[ResidentAlien]

The only way Hitler succeeded as he did was because God allowed it. There were so many red flags along the way they should've been impossible to ignore. Yes, most Christians said or did nothing. There was resistance within the armed forces but they bungled many assassination attempts. Hitler interpreted this as fate being on his side. In a sense it was, until it wasn't.

I believe when the tribulation starts and the Antichrist comes on the scene the situation will be similar. If it's God's will who will be able to resist?

 

[soberxp]

I've never thought about it like this, but it sounds so interesting.
five of whom have fallen,
Is it possible for the five permanent members of the United Nations.

 

[ewq1938]

All the heads are in the bible. The 7 heads are from Daniel's beasts.

If heads are beasts and not mountains, then is this showing 8 beasts??

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

 

[JaumeJ]

The creation, we and all connected with this age aside from the first advent of our Lord are allied, bound, to decay.

It is my own understanding that mankind when not regarding our Maker is the cause of the decay of this earth. Because I believe this, and I could be wrong, I believe our Father allows mankind without His guidance to do exactly as mankind pleases, and in so doing mankind makes the earth polluted by the fruit of what he does.

So, YES, God allows leaders of those people to be, but God does not put them there, corrupted man does.

The good news is Jesus Yeshua and His return to redo all in the perfection and living manner it will be. Praise our Kign and look to His Kingdom.

What He has in store for us all is just too wonderful to attain in our minds. Praise God, amen.

 

[Mem]

The only way Hitler succeeded as he did was because God allowed it. There were so many red flags along the way they should've been impossible to ignore. Yes, most Christians said or did nothing. There was resistance within the armed forces but they bungled many assassination attempts. Hitler interpreted this as fate being on his side. In a sense it was, until it wasn't.

I believe when the tribulation starts and the Antichrist comes on the scene the situation will be similar. If it's God's will who will be able to resist?

God set before us the responsibility to choose life or death, the truth or the lie, so people, having been given the choice, will believe lies because they want to believe it is the truth, that is if they don't already hold that position in the first place.

 

[Rondonmon]

Now look for the head that received the wound by the sword,,,that was in the pit in Revelation 17:8(when John saw the vision),,,who received the wound and was given it's kingdom back when man said "let us make an image of the beast" that was,is not,,,yet shall be...(ascend out of the pit).

Not quite right there bud. you ADDED a little info....

Rev. 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath(Has not HAD its figurative in nature) the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

So, nowhere does it say this "Beast" here received the Mortal Wound, he was locked in he pit but still alive as an "ENTINTY" whilst Rome could no longer "BEAST" over Israel because Israel ceased being a Nation as God saw them as nothing but Dead Men's Bones". This prophesy is from God's perspective, not our, we would do well to remember that. God saw the 7 Kingdoms he foretold would rule over Israel down as a Beast with DOMINION over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region. Thus the ONE SEVEN HEADED BEAST never existed, its 7 Beasts over 3000 years conjoined in God's mind because God sees them as His and Israel's enemy, because the real power behind these earthly kingdoms is Satan who we saw in Luke 4 rules over this whole earth.

Of course its the 6th Head (Rome) that caused the Wound, and the 7th head that once again conquers Israel. The coming (Anti=Christ).

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

If heads are beasts and not mountains, then is this showing 8 beasts??

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The 7 heads are the 7 heads of the beasts of Daniel. They are 7 heads as inspired per the dragon. The head of 8th beast is the false prophet of the earth which is the 8th head. The beasts are hegemons that interfere with Divine Will. As the Mountain of Daniel 2 is the Will of God
Dan 2:45And just as you saw a stone being cut out of the mountain without human hands, and it shattered the iron, bronze, clay, silver, and gold, so the great God has told the king what will happen in the future. The dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.”
so are the 7 mountains cut from the dragon.

Consider, Rev 20:10 (Berean Study Bible)
And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
The dragon, beast, and false prophet come in a set. The inspiration (dragon) and 8 heads of hegemons (imperial seats) that interfered with Divine Will.

All in the bible.