How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

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GaryA said:
There is no "70th week" in the End Times Scenario - it ended in 34 A.D. and is 100% fulfilled.
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If that is true we should all be living in the New Heavens and the New Earth! Since you know that things are the exact opposite, you are simply dreaming -- fantasizing. Let's know when you will be ready for reality.
 
Absolutely said:
Jesus comes "before the flood", in one of his declarations of mat 24

Jesus comes "after the trib in power" in his other.

Both in mat 24.

In "before the flood" one is taken, the other left.
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All of those details are about the same coming - not two separate comings.
 
Dear LORD JESUS,

i Thank YOU for ALL my Brothers & Sisters in YOU

Bless them and there families today, heal our bodies, give strength where needed and the Holy Spirit to fill us with more of Your Goodness, Kindness and Fulness - AMEN
 
GaryA said:
Why? Do you place the Millenium and GWTJ in the GT (your perspective, not mine)???
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No. If Daniel's 70th week was fulfilled back in 34 AD, then everlasting righteousness was presumably established on earth at the same time. See Daniel 9:24. Which means that we should all be now in the New Heavens and the New Earth -- wherein dwelleth righteousness. Which as you can see totally (100%) absurd.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
No. If Daniel's 70th week was fulfilled back in 34 AD, then everlasting righteousness was presumably established on earth at the same time. See Daniel 9:24. Which means that we should all be now in the New Heavens and the New Earth -- wherein dwelleth righteousness. Which as you can see totally (100%) absurd.
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Each of the list of things in Daniel 9:24 has been fulfilled. Only, they are not what you are thinking of or are not "in the sense" that you are thinking of.

Please see this web page for an explanation:

http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Seventy_Weeks.html
 
ewq1938 said:
You don't know what the Olivet Discourse is?
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That verse may or may not be considered part of the Olivet Discourse - based on perspective; however, he still made a very good point - because, what was being spoken of did in fact happen.
 
GaryA said:
If you are interested, you can see with what I believe each verse is associated here:

http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Olivet_Discourse.html

There is no "70th week" in the End Times Scenario - it ended in 34 A.D. and is 100% fulfilled.
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It is simply amazing that two people can read the same texts and come up with such a diversion of opinion.
I, for one, think your theory is total myth.

Why? No one has every pointed to points in history for each trumpet and vial judgment. They can't because these things are future and nothing in history fits.
 
GaryA said:
Each of the list of things in Daniel 9:24 has been fulfilled. Only, they are not what you are thinking of or are not "in the sense" that you are thinking of.

Please see this web page for an explanation:

http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Seventy_Weeks.html
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No website needed, thanks. The truth is, to truly believe as you do, you have to make very literal verses into symbolic verses. That means you take a verse that is very clear in its understanding as literal, and turn it into something else - so anyone can guess what it means.

Taking every verse that makes sense in its literal sense as literal makes it impossible to see Revelation as you see it.
 
lamad said:
It is simply amazing that two people can read the same texts and come up with such a diversion of opinion.
I, for one, think your theory is total myth.

Why? No one has every pointed to points in history for each trumpet and vial judgment. They can't because these things are future and nothing in history fits.
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I agree 100% that the 'Trumpets' and the 'Vials' are future - I have never said otherwise.
 
lamad said:
No website needed, thanks. The truth is, to truly believe as you do, you have to make very literal verses into symbolic verses. That means you take a verse that is very clear in its understanding as literal, and turn it into something else - so anyone can guess what it means.

Taking every verse that makes sense in its literal sense as literal makes it impossible to see Revelation as you see it.
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I think not...

You might be amazed at just how well I keep literal literal and symbolic symbolic - and not get them mixed up...
 
lamad said:
No one has every pointed to points in history for each trumpet and vial judgment. They can't because these things are future and nothing in history fits.
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The reason you said this is because you are not truly interested in understanding what I believe from my POV.

Instead, you are trying to examine my view according to your own 'definition' [of thngs].

You assume everything you believe concerning the 70th week, for example, to be identical for me.

It is not so.
 
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