Saved by Water

[2ndTimothyGroup]

How many places do you want it mentioned?

Right. I'm not stupid so as to think that physical water is not mentioned. Seriously . . . come now. Symbolism. Symbolism. Context. Context. What is the context of the Bible? Does it really revolve around water?

Not my God. My God does not depend upon corrupt, worldly water filled with bacteria to procure Purity. Unbelievable.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Under the OT/OC baptism in water was for outward skin cleansing.....under the NT/NC it is for soul cleansing of sin.

Sounds sort of good, but how does physical water Purify that which cannot be touched by human hands? Silly.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

You remind me of a political leader who said....it is a matter of what is....is.

Oh. Was that supposed to teach us something?

 

[peldom10]

Right. I'm not stupid so as to think that physical water is not mentioned. Seriously . . . come now. Symbolism. Symbolism. Context. Context. What is the context of the Bible? Does it really revolve around water?

Not my God. My God does not depend upon corrupt, worldly water filled with bacteria to procure Purity. Unbelievable.

LOL...(if your position was not so horrible....if taken seriously).

 

[peldom10]

Oh. Was that supposed to teach us something?

Not us...you.

 

[peldom10]

Sounds sort of good, but how does physical water Purify that which cannot be touched by human hands? Silly.

God is Miraculous ...isn't He?...and you call Him silly? WOW!!!!!

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Not us...you.

You have not taught me anything, but only reminded me of worldly doctrine.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

God is Miraculous ...isn't He?...and you call Him silly? WOW!!!!!

You see . . . this is the problem. I am not calling God silly, but your teachings "silly."

You're not even able to interpret me, a mere human . . . and yet I am right here for clarification.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

"Researchers at the Institute of Hygiene and Applied Immunology at the Medical University of Vienna tested water from 21 springs in Austria and 18 fonts in Vienna and found samples contained up to 62 million bacteria per milliliter of water, none of it safe to drink."

Holy Water May be Harmful to Your Health, Study Finds - ABC News (go.com)

Well, isn't this something. Water, any ol' water can procure Purity, but if you drink it, it could kill you. Huh.

A person could receive Eternal Life by being baptized in the ocean, but if you drink enough of its water, it will lead to dehydration and kill you. That's an odd concept.

And, who would drink nothing but baptismal water, particularly after typically filthy men (who rarely wash their hands after they handle themselves), women (who may be menstruating), and filthy little children who have deposited their bacterias, feces, blood, urine, and who knows what else within it?

I'll bet you wouldn't drink any more than half a cup of baptismal water, would you? Disgusting. Baptismal water Procures Purity (you say), yet it is disgusting to drink?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Neti Pots:

"Nasal irrigation devices — which include neti pots, bulb syringes, squeeze bottles, and battery-operated pulsed water devices — are usually safe and effective products when used and cleaned properly, says Eric A. Mann, M.D., Ph.D., a doctor at the FDA.

What does safe use mean? First, rinse only with distilled, sterile or previously boiled water."

Is Rinsing Your Sinuses With Neti Pots Safe? | FDA

Would you put water from the Jordan River into your neti pot? I sure wouldn't.

"A Seattle woman died after becoming infected with a brain-eating amoeba. The woman told her doctor she had used tap water in a Neti pot, instead of saline or sterile water, CBS affiliate KIRO reports. Doctors believe an amoeba entered in through her upper nasal cavity and got into her bloodstream, eventually reaching her brain."

Woman dies from brain-eating amoeba after using Neti pot with tap water - CBS News

 

[justbyfaith]

Get 'im Holy Ghost...

 

[justbyfaith]

Yes. If you really want to take it literally, then one HAS TO BE baptized by the Lord Himself, in the flesh. .

2Co 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The Lord will be doing the baptizing, when a minister who is filled with the Holy Ghost is doing the baptizing; for He will be baptizing them through that minister since He will be dwelling in that minister doing the baptizing.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Romans 8:20-21 NLT - "Against its will, all creation was subjected to God's curse. But with eager hope, the creation looks forward to the day when it will join God's children in glorious freedom from death and decay."

Is physical water part of "all creation?"

If physical water is corrupt, which it obviously is, how can physical water Purify?

 

[FreeGrace2]

2Co 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The Lord will be doing the baptizing, when a minister who is filled with the Holy Ghost is doing the baptizing

You just contradicted yourself. You start with "the Lord WILL BE doing the baptizing" and then followed by "a minister...is doing the baptizing".

So, you cant even determine who is actually doing the baptizing. You've got 2 separate baptizers. Figure it out.

for He will be baptizing them through that minister since He will be dwelling in that minister doing the baptizing.

Nope. That's NOT what the verse said. The verse was very clear. It SAYS "the Lord will baptize". Not, as you presume, "the Lord will baptize THROUGH SOME GUY".

Nope. Not buying any of it.

The Isa verse is clearly speaking of regeneration, which comes directly by the Lord Himself, and NOT NOT NOT "through some guy".

But of course, you are free to believe whatever you want.

I will stick with what the Scripture actually says.

 

[justbyfaith]

Romans 8:20-21 NLT - "Against its will, all creation was subjected to God's curse. But with eager hope, the creation looks forward to the day when it will join God's children in glorious freedom from death and decay."

Is physical water part of "all creation?"

If physical water is corrupt, which it obviously is, how can physical water Purify?

Through identification with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection.

See Acts 22:16.

 

[justbyfaith]

You just contradicted yourself. You start with "the Lord WILL BE doing the baptizing" and then followed by "a minister...is doing the baptizing".

So, you cant even determine who is actually doing the baptizing. You've got 2 separate baptizers. Figure it out.

The Lord dwelling in the minister is doing the baptizing as the minister does the baptizing.

I'm sorry if you are not able to understand.

 

[justbyfaith]

Nope. That's NOT what the verse said. The verse was very clear. It SAYS "the Lord will baptize". Not, as you presume, "the Lord will baptize THROUGH SOME GUY".

Nope. Not buying any of it.

So, the Lord will regenerate and renew people when it is raining some day as He sprinkles clean water on them through some drops of rain?

 

[justbyfaith]

Nope. Not buying any of it.

The Isa verse is clearly speaking of regeneration, which comes directly by the Lord Himself, and NOT NOT NOT "through some guy".

But of course, you are free to believe whatever you want.

I will stick with what the Scripture actually says.

I am uncertain as to the reason why you are in denial of the aspect of physical water in Ezekiel 36:25.

Is it because you have not personally been water-baptized?

Or, perhaps, someone you care about has not been water-baptized whom you want to believe is going to heaven when they die?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I am uncertain as to the reason why you are in denial of the aspect of physical water in Ezekiel 36:25.

Is it because you have not personally been water-baptized?

Or, perhaps, someone you care about has not been water-baptized whom you want to believe is going to heaven when they die?

I've told you that I was water baptized. Don't be sorry that I "don't understand." What you are teaching is juvenile at best.

 

[Magenta]

I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.

Ezekiel 36:25-26