That's most likely the scripture that says,,,,,, woman must remain silent in the church.I'll find it not that i agree with it.
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It sounds sexist,,i'll say what most cannot.
1Co 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
There also that one about eve being fooled and not Adam,,,,,,,yes it would be a over generalization of interpretation.
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
There also that one about eve being fooled and not Adam,,,,,,,yes it would be a over generalization of interpretation.
There's a lot of evidence... you have chosen to ignore it. So if I show it to you... you will discount all of it.
Just like you read what you wanted out of my original post in this thread. I stated cases for both sexes to lead and be in leadership but you discounted them and disparaged me in the process.
And now you want more ammunition with which to disparage me? Think again. Use some of that logic you claim to own.
Some people speak with authority and don't need evidence to support their assertions.
Would you ask Jesus to provide you with evidence for what He preaches (in the Sermon on the Mount, for example)?
You aren't one of them, and neither is the other poster to whom I addressed my post.
There is no evidence to ignore. You made an assertion that has absolutely no support in Scripture. Claiming there is a lot and showing none of it is weak.
I read your entire post. I addressed the points I wanted to address. I called "sexist" the sexist comment you made. Maybe you feel offended because you really are sexist. With your response, "Sucks to be you," I'd say my comment hit the mark, and you don't like the feeling of conviction.
I consider that the following verses of scripture are given to me.
Jhn 15:20, Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
1Jo 4:6, We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Jhn 15:20, Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
1Jo 4:6, We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Im not convicted...
I feel pity. Huge difference.
Eat up with rage and resentment...it most definitely sucks to be you!
We can obtain promises by faith (Hebrews 11:33); while others may do so out of presumption (Hebrews 11:29).
(cont'd from #68)
(cont'd from #68)
The Bible says what the Bible says and tells us we have no authority to change it. Rev. 22;18,19, Deut. 4;2 and 12;32
It does, yet people change it every day to make it to say what they want. For example:
1 Timothy 2:9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
This is general teaching to the women at Ephesus. Yet V12 is continuously taken out of context to mean ministry while the context speaks only of their personal lifestyle & marriage. V12 speaks only to the marriage relationship, because it agrees with the man being the spiritual head of the household. Women aren't to try to be the spiritual heads, thus it is written.
Neither of which states that women may not "minister".It sounds sexist,,i'll say what most cannot.
1Co 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
There also that one about eve being fooled and not Adam,,,,,,,yes it would be a over generalization of interpretation.
Who suggested anything about changing Scripture? "Usurp authority" is a translational choice only. Many translators have chosen different terms to translate authentein. Are they "changing Scripture" in your opinion?
They were given to all Christians.
Sometimes, you're simply wrong. Telling you so is a far cry from 'persecution'.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody chopped off the end of Galatians 3 to make it into woke doctrine, I could publish my own study bible- it would have a little note in the margin saying "read this whole chapter together" by Galatians 3.
I think everyone can look up the statistics on what sort of children single mothers raise. It is no different for pastors, and that's exactly why they are forbidden in the bible. It's nothing against women personally, that's just not what God designed them to do.
Can you show me a verse? Because I've been through the new testament several times and have yet to find that.
You made the claim; the obligation is on you to support your claim. I'm saying your claim is not supported, which would require me to post the entire New Testament to substantiate.
