Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Would you give your daughter in marriage to a looney tunes?

Luke 17:27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

This is a sign the Lord gave us of His coming, how are we supposed to understand this? One person tried to say that the number of marriages were coming back to normal and that was a sign, I thought that was ridiculous but it got me thinking. If that is not how we are supposed to understand this verse, then how are we to understand it?

The phrase "given in marriage" really stuck out, it reminds me of matchmakers. Among the common people matchmakers are relatively rare, but among the rich and famous this is still a very standard practice. For example we need a match for Prince Charles, so a matchmaker comes along and says we have this wonderful girl named Diana, she comes from the right family, and ultimately Diana is given in marriage to Charles. This is not about the two of them "falling in love" but rather a match that makes sense for the royal family. If Diana had been from the wrong family she would never have been considered. This idea of the "wrong family" was portrayed in the movie "Look who is coming to Dinner" indicating that interracial marriages which were once shunned were now changing. We see that as well in "eating and drinking", there was a time when Blacks in the US could not use a water fountain for Whites and could not eat in a restaurant for Whites. This is how human society has been arranged for the last two thousand years. South Africa had apartheid, India has the caste system, etc.

However, you could argue that we recognized that this wasn't right in the sixties and tried to do away with it. The world's religions have become "ecumenical" with interfaith marriages happening all the time, and interracial marriages happening all the time as well. Today there is only one group that is shunned from the world and that is "Jesus freaks".

Now let's consider Noah and his day. You want your son to marry a nice young girl so you go talk to the family and say you have a wonderful son. What does he do? He is a carpenter and makes wonderful things. Like what? You are cornered and have to admit he has been working with Noah for the last 50 years on that boat which is the laughing stock of the whole town. They built a boat on land and have no way to get it to the water. No, he doesn't get paid to do that. No one is going to give their daughter in marriage to your son. He is a looney tunes.
Now let's fast forward to today. Same thing, your son is a wonderful carpenter, makes beautiful boats. Sounds good until you learn he has decided not to get the vaccine because he thinks it is a sign we are in the last days and because of that he lost his job. No one is going to give their daughter to you.

Everyone in the world has made a covenant with the world like a marriage contract. If you are a fundamental Christian who believes the Bible is the word of God and that includes the rapture, the Lord's coming and witnessing concerning Jesus then you cannot have a marriage covenant with the world. Your covenant is with Jesus. The Lord was telling us that this would be the case more than ever when He returns which is so hard to believe since we thought "we had gotten past all that".
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1Corinthians 15:1-34 -- "Come back to your senses as you ought"

1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.


This is a good time to be reminded of the gospel by which we are saved. Receive that word by faith and hold firmly to it.

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve.6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

Jesus was the Christ, the anointed of God, the Messiah. He was the incarnated word. He died for our sins, that is He paid the price so that we could be redeemed from sin. When you sin you become enslaved to sin, you have a debt that you can’t repay. By repaying that debt for us sin could no longer enslave us. He was also buried, that is the fulfillment of the sabbath rest. He was raised from the dead and brought all of us who believe into the new creation. We have a faithful witness of these events from the apostles, the disciples, and hundreds of believers over the ages.

9 For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. 11 Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.

The New Testament was laid out by the apostle Paul, some have compared his ministry to the ministry of the resurrected Christ (Jesus earthly ministry is compared to David, and His heavenly ministry compared to Solomon). But Paul has nothing to boast of, if it were not for Jesus he would have been condemned to hell with Judas. So Paul’s ministry began from the very lowest point and yet he ultimately got to the highest point, similar to Jesus rising from the grave and ascending to the heavens.

12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

The internet has become flooded with saints all over the world having dreams of the rapture and being told to tell the believers that Jesus is coming. Yet, there are many other believers who insist they have heard all of that before, yada, yada, yada. This is nothing new. Thomas refused to believe Jesus had risen till he touched the wounds and saw for himself. That may sound sensible but it is rebuked by the Lord as faithless.

13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.


Think about that, if his preaching is useless why has it had such a big impact on the entire world? The power of that message for the last 2,000 years is a strong testimony that Jesus rose from the dead. The resurrection is the power of the message.

15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised.

Another great point, if Jesus didn’t rise from the dead the entire New Testament is based on the testimony of liars. How could these fishermen and an odd assortment of people fabricated such an elaborate and effective lie?

16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.


Here we come to the crux of the matter, if the rapture is not real, if the dead are not going to rise at the last trump, then Jesus also didn’t rise from the dead. You can’t believe that Jesus resurrected from the dead and also teach that the rapture is not real.

17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

What fool would do this? Who would make up a lie so that they could be persecuted, imprisoned, stoned, and martyred?

20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

We have seven great feasts in the Jewish year. Jesus was crucified on Passover, buried on the feast of unleavened bread, rose from the dead on the feast of first fruits, and the church was born on the feast of Pentecost. What is the point of starting the year with a “feast of firstfruits” that refers to Christ’s resurrection if the feast at the end of the year when you bring in the harvest does not really mean we are raptured?

21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

This is a very deep saying. At the time of Adam’s fall there was a prophecy that the seed of the woman would come and this seed would crush the serpent's head and the serpent would bruise His heel. If you look at the heavenly signs in September of 2017 we saw this sign, and the only other time it has appeared was in 3915 BC. So the prophecy at the time of Adam was fulfilled with the appearance of the sign in heaven of a woman with a crown of 12 stars, clothed in the sun, that brings forth a man child.

23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.


There are three groups, Jesus Christ has already risen, the firstfruits refer to those who are raptured, and those who belong to Him refer to the redeemed who are not raptured and instead have to endure the tribulation.

24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.


This is the point of this age, to cast out the prince of darkness and for every knee to bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.

25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

We know that He destroyed the power of death when He rose from the dead. So surely the best testimony of that will be the rapture of the saints with the dead rising first and then those that are alive. We can't be raptured until the other enemies have been put under out feet.

27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

This is the gospel message, God is all in all, Jesus is Lord. Hold firmly to this word otherwise you have believed in vain.

29 Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? 30 And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour? 31 I face death every day—yes, just as surely as I boast about you in Christ Jesus our Lord. 32 If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus with no more than human hopes, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.”

It is a very big thing to deny this truth. This is why the atheists contend so much over this point. Everything hinges on the resurrection of the dead, without that sin and redemption are meaningless. Do whatever you can get away with because there is no being held accountable at a final judgement.

33 Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.” 34 Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.

It is truly shameful what some people who have the name of Christian are saying.
 

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Debunking the claim that the Vaccine mandate is the Mark of the Beast

1. First, they claim that if you don't have the MOTB you can't buy or sell, and the greek word for buy actually means to enter into the marketplace. So let me look into what they have here. Hmmm, OK they give a few examples of places where this law has already gone into effect: Lithuania and some city in New Zealand. OK, let's skip this point.

2. Second they claim that the number of the copyright for this technology is 666, actually the number is 060606, OK, let's skip this point.

3. Third they say that this "vaccine" is made from aborted fetuses, the blood of innocents. OK, let's check to see what right wing nut is saying this. OK, let's skip this point.

4. Fourth they talk about it being composed of something called Luciferase. OK, let's skip this point.

5. Fifth, they point out that Fauci is a member of the Freemasons which practice witchcraft and sorcery. So let's see what evidence they have for this! OK, let's skip this point.

6. Sixth, they say that this "pandemic" is really a "plandemic" and that it is part of the "great delusion". OK, let's see what evidence they have on this! (Fauci lied, Phony scientific studies, originated in Wuhan, yada, yada, yada). OK, let's skip this point.

7. Seventh, they are saying they inflated the numbers of dead from Covid19 and they are hiding the data on the adverse reactions to the vaccine. C'mon man, the the scope of this paranoid conspiracy is off the hook, what is this 'the great lie"? Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

8. They say that the MOTB is used to hold all of your personal data that the government can track and this system is currently being tested in Africa by the Bill Gates foundation. Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

9. The MOTB is in the right hand! Ha! You see that they don't inject this in your right hand! Case closed!

The only way this could be the mark of the beast is if they figure out some way to inject this into the right hand.
 

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Debunking the claim that the Vaccine mandate is the Mark of the Beast

1. First, they claim that if you don't have the MOTB you can't buy or sell, and the greek word for buy actually means to enter into the marketplace. So let me look into what they have here. Hmmm, OK they give a few examples of places where this law has already gone into effect: Lithuania and some city in New Zealand. OK, let's skip this point.

2. Second they claim that the number of the copyright for this technology is 666, actually the number is 060606, OK, let's skip this point.

3. Third they say that this "vaccine" is made from aborted fetuses, the blood of innocents. OK, let's check to see what right wing nut is saying this. OK, let's skip this point.

4. Fourth they talk about it being composed of something called Luciferase. OK, let's skip this point.

5. Fifth, they point out that Fauci is a member of the Freemasons which practice witchcraft and sorcery. So let's see what evidence they have for this! OK, let's skip this point.

6. Sixth, they say that this "pandemic" is really a "plandemic" and that it is part of the "great delusion". OK, let's see what evidence they have on this! (Fauci lied, Phony scientific studies, originated in Wuhan, yada, yada, yada). OK, let's skip this point.

7. Seventh, they are saying they inflated the numbers of dead from Covid19 and they are hiding the data on the adverse reactions to the vaccine. C'mon man, the the scope of this paranoid conspiracy is off the hook, what is this 'the great lie"? Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

8. They say that the MOTB is used to hold all of your personal data that the government can track and this system is currently being tested in Africa by the Bill Gates foundation. Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

9. The MOTB is in the right hand! Ha! You see that they don't inject this in your right hand! Case closed!

The only way this could be the mark of the beast is if they figure out some way to inject this into the right hand.

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10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

The trial is going to come on the whole world and the rapture will take place prior to that. At the moment is not on "the whole world" so we still have time before the rapture.

Scary, everyone is holding the phone in their right hand.
 

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All joking aside the Bible refers to the Mark of the Beast and we can now clearly see without any dispute that the vaccine mandate will go from paper, to phone, to RFID chip implanted in your hand.
 

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Very interesting salvation story.

Amazing near death experience.
 

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If we were in Nazi Germany when they were making the Jews wear the star of David you could say that this was according to the pattern of the mark of the beast and it was and it meant they were marked out for slaughter. You would have been censored on German press, and the Jews would have attacked and ridiculed you though when they were forced to move to the Ghetto they might have started to have second thoughts and when they were put on trains many more would have had that very bad feeling. Still many who went to the camps actually thought the Germans valued them for their labor and whatever they produced. They didn't realize that killing 6 million is a lot of work and it takes time, you can't kill them all on day 1.

However, that was the photographic negative, this time it will be those who don't have the mark that are marked out for slaughter.
 

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4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[c] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!”

What is the apostasy but God's people withdrawing from the word of God. The word of God is our bread and our water, and yet they would prefer to watch Hollywood movies, go to Disney world rather than a church meeting, and listen to satanic music rather than worship music.

6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.

So we have a plandemic that has struck us concocted by sorcerers who are also FreeMasons (those who worship Satan and are involved in witchcraft). Now surprise, surprise the same people who made a bioweapon and released it on the earth are the same ones who made the "cure". The disease was simply designed to motivate everyone in the world to get the "cure". This vaccine is like being bitten by a poisonous snake. They sold it as a "vaccine" and people understood that would mean you would be immune, but instead you need a second shot and then a booster shot, and it appears you will need shots every six months. Some people have very serious adverse reactions to this shot, the second time you will also risk adverse reactions, and likewise with the third, the fourth, etc. How do you get rid of these snakes? Only one way, pray.

8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

I suspect that this vaccine will be required worldwide. Initially they will give people passports but because some will forge these they will justify injecting the "vaccine passport" into you so that it is part of your hand. However, you won't have to get this because the church will be able to cast this demon out. The purpose of the vaccine becoming the mark of the beast is to turn the Lord's people back to Him so that they look on Jesus while at the same time exposing how evil the pagan world is.
 

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He feels this is a false teaching because wormwood is something supernatural that cannot be explained by nature.

I don't agree with him but thought it was fair to include his opinion. Jesus crucifixion is where Satan, and the world, sin and death were all crucified. That is supernatural. Who nailed Jesus to the cross? Who pierced His side? Who buried Him?

Was it a supernatural death or did He die the same way other people die?
 

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ICorinthians 15:35-58 God gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ

35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?”36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body.39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

Our life is a seed. In death we are planted and in resurrection we will grow with a glorified body.

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

These are basic principles, the natural body is simply a shadow of the reality which is the spiritual body. The rapture is the fulfillment of our being raised so the nature of those days prior to the rapture: we will be perishable, dishonored, in weakness, and natural. In other words our faith will be the only thing we will have and to the natural eye it will not make any sense.

45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.


Again, if you can see that our human body will return to the dust of the ground, then you should also see that our spiritual body is of heaven. If you live according to your spirit you will be heavenly. If you have borne the image of your father on earth, then you will also bear the image of your Father in heaven.

50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

This last trumpet is supposed to refer to the two horns from the ram that Abraham sacrificed instead of Isaac. The first trumpet was blown at the time of Shavuot when Moses gave Israel the ten commandments. That was His betrothal to the children of Israel. The last trumpet is this midnight cry when Jesus comes and gets His bride. So think about this, the whole chapter is about a seed being sown into human beings, it was sown when the Ten commandments were given to us at the first trumpet and then when the last trumpet is blown we are transformed into spiritual bodies. That word has grown in us and resurrected into a spiritual body. We then, filled with the word, are now in the image of the heavenly man.

53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”

We must be clothed with the imperishable! This is the only way we could be the bride of Christ, the only way we could rule and reign with Christ, the only way we could be to the praise of His glory! The rapture is a victory for Jesus. Getting the bride is a victory for Jesus. The Lord is the coming king, but everything will be built on this victory. Why is He king? Because He has conquered. Why can He judge man, again because of this victory. No one can say "but Lord, what you ask is too much for anyone". He can point to His bride and that will disprove that argument.

55 “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”


In the rapture we will be overjoyed, praising God, and praising the Lord for His victory. Think about it, if no one were raptured you would be saying "Where, O Lord is your victory?" This is what this age is all about, the battle is over our being transformed into the image of God.

56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

How did we get the victory over sin? It is through our Lord Jesus Christ. How are we gong to get the victory over death? It is through our Lord Jesus Christ. We will be praising and thanking Him for eternity.

58 Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
 

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This answers a question I had about the rapture. The Last 7 years seem like a major war between Christ and the Antichrist, so then why do you pull your first string on day 1? She answers this saying from day 1 in heaven the raptured saints will be responsible for the intercession of the saints and for worship.

 

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2 Peter 3:1-10 The Earth and the works therein shall be burned up

1 This is now, beloved, the second epistle that I write unto you; and in both of them I stir up your sincere mind by putting you in remembrance; 2 that ye should remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandment of the Lord and Saviour through your apostles: 3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery, walking after their own lusts, 4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming?

This is an important part of the gospel message to us. There are many who do not wish to cause trouble. They find these kind of discussions counterproductive. But this word that we preach is essential, it stirs us up and puts us in remembrance. The first thing you need to know if you are going to preach is that mockers will come who not only walk in their lusts but also mock the Lord and His servants. They ask "where is the promise of His coming?" because this sets the stage for their judgement. This is of God, the Lord is sovereign and He wants us to proclaim His coming and the resurrection from the dead.

for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.


Here is their logical argument, you look around, don’t see anything that the Bible warns about so therefore they won’t see it. But to make this argument you have to willfully forget Rwanda, Ebola, the Holocaust, Russian Revolution, Cultural revolution, French revolution, etc.

5 For this they wilfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth compacted out of water and amidst water, by the word of God; 6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.


In Geology there was a theory called the principle of uniformitarianism which was a premise that the way the world was is pretty much the way it is now. So, some used that theory with something they falsely called science to claim that Noah’s flood and other cataclysmic events couldn’t take place. Then we discovered that in fact, at the end of the last ice age cataclysmic floods did take place every bit on the scale described in the Bible. We can use the size of ripple marks to determine how deep the water was that was flowing over them. We were able to determine that floods in the US and India were 40 meters deep just as the Bible said and that these floods did indeed flow down from the highest mountains. Since that point we have discovered that extinction events are very important in Earth’s history. They are rare, but they have happened five times prior to the current one and some were as horrific as anything we can even imagine. The last one was sixty five million years ago, so yes, they don’t happen all the time, but they do happen and when they do they are catastrophic. It was a shock to geologists when they discovered that in fact a meteorite was directly related to the extinction of the dinosaurs. After that we pushed for astronomers to track all the potential threats to life on Earth and have since discovered how very difficult that job is. We have had asteroids buzzing close to the Earth this year and according to NASA there is one that has the potential to strike the Earth around election day of this year. Even at the time of Noah we think that asteroids were involved in that flood by striking the ocean and there were over 200 large creatures that went extinct due to that event.

8 But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


The context of this is that the Lord’s return could come on the third day. This age began with the Lord’s resurrection as the firstfruit, and it will end with the resurrection of the saints as the harvest. The age is likened to a year that begins in the Spring with Jesus death and resurrection and ends with Jesus coronation and wedding. Our rapture is likened to the resurrection. What is interesting about this is that this year is the very first Jubilee year of the third millennium. Using this word by Peter this is early on the third day. It is somewhat complicated but the Jewish calendar is not equivalent to the calendar that we use so the number of years is not exactly the same.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Bases on this time frame with a thousand years being one day the time frame from Noah to Israel leaving Egypt was only a couple of days, likewise it has only been two days since the Lord was crucified. The Lord is not slack, but rather these things take time. He has given us everything we need but the issue is not that He has been slack but rather that many saints have been slack. They don't take these warnings as seriously as they should. They are not treating their Christian life with urgency.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


This is important, the clarification that Peter gives. Yes, the day of the Lord will come as a thief, but not to everybody. If you are raptured, if you are like the wise virgins whose vessels are full of oil, if you are like Noah when he entered the ark, it doesn’t come as a thief for you. That is because you were wise, you heeded the warnings, you repented and you prepared. But for all those mockers and those walking in the lust of their flesh it will certainly come as a thief. Recently there was a vineyard in California that was burned to the ground and the owner was on the news saying everything they had built up over generations was gone. That should be a warning to everyone. Ron Reagan, Ronald Reagan’s son, was a very famous atheist who claimed he was not afraid of the fires of hell. Where is he now? Why isn’t he making those ads now?

I observed this recent catastrophe with all the flights being cancelled. It was explained that transportation is like a chain, if the Air Traffic controllers in one city don't show up for work then that link in the chain is broken. This causes great confusion. If the planes can't land at that airport there is no airport for them to go to, confusion. Also it means other planes can't take off, confusion. If the other planes can't take off then the planes that were going to take there place have no where to go, etc, etc. A thousand flights being cancelled could mean a hundred thousand screaming passengers trying to find new flights to get on, confusion. What are you seeing? You are seeing a thief in the night to the "mockers" like Joe Biden.
 

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There are those out there who are attacking and rebuking saints who are posting on youtube concerning the Lord's coming. It became exceedingly toxic yesterday. I considered posting the video for the purpose of being transparent and providing context but decided not to because I felt it was from the accuser of the brethren. Leave it to this brother to give the appropriate response.