Vaccination?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


Results are only viewable after voting.
Status
Not open for further replies.
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
Personally, i don't know why we are using a British term like JAB in the first place.
Break Free from Virus Fear
with our New Vaccine Cheer
Take a Jab or Two
it's the Best Way to do away with You
Too many People? Not a Problem
Round Up the Sheeple
and give them a Needle
They won't know till it's too Late
a Date with Death is their Fate

When the Worlds ills are Solved
We will have Fully Evolved
Some will continue to Say
Jesus Christ is the Only Way
They also will lose their Life
When their Head falls under the Knife
Upon His Return many will Burn
But the Dead in Him will Rise above the Grim
And so too will those who Remain
and have kept Themselves Pure from the Shame
 

CS1

Well-known member
May 23, 2012
13,003
4,315
113
Just like I would break down the Word of God in Study and eat up that Knowledge being presented before me, BEING AS WISE AS SERPENTS (Very Words of Christ), I also DISSECT every Chemical Ingredient, Mathematical Formula, Biological Substance.

If you ever had a hip/knee/spine/elbow replacement, the Sciences behind how to make the CELLS inside your body stick to the METAL IMPLANT and accept it like it was the original Natural bone, I was part of that Team for J&J in 2000/2001.

I can show the Sciences, but YOU, can't ACCEPT them!
FYI again I had COVID_19 and God healed me. I also received my vaccine, yet I am suffering from the side effects of that shot. I served in the Miltary and had 6 anthrax shots I am not against vaccines but I will not get another one. Your knee replacement I would think you were not told MUST get one done or you will be fired from work? Do you have to show Proof of your knee replacement?

Does your knee replacement address cancer, and youth suicide? apples to apples, please. The Science like Foulcheat did not see the tradeoff for long-term isolation, China did. politicians saw this as an opportunity to fleece the flock. In addition to saying all is because of climate change. Science is political today not objective but subjective.

That is wrong.
 

CS1

Well-known member
May 23, 2012
13,003
4,315
113
Personally, i don't know why we are using a British term like JAB in the first place.
out all the issues, you take issue with a term? lol
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
FYI again I had COVID_19 and God healed me. I also received my vaccine, yet I am suffering from the side effects of that shot. I served in the Miltary and had 6 anthrax shots I am not against vaccines but I will not get another one. Your knee replacement I would think you were not told MUST get one done or you will be fired from work? Do you have to show Proof of your knee replacement?

Does your knee replacement address cancer, and youth suicide? apples to apples, please. The Science like Foulcheat did not see the tradeoff for long-term isolation, China did. politicians saw this as an opportunity to fleece the flock. In addition to saying all is because of climate change. Science is political today not objective but subjective.

That is wrong.

Let me ask this so I can see the other side View to your post I quoted and you have followed up to.

Are you saying, had the Schools been open, these Programs designed for youth suicide, and other programs were not in function so it's led to more suicides etc.

Or, what?

Because, I saw, crime rate, homicide rate, suicides in youth all lowered when Parents were forced to be a Parent during the Covid Shut Down!
 
S

SophieT

Guest
What a load of rubbish. GM had to stop selling the Bolt because it has the nasty habit of bursting into flames. Their solution? Park 50 feet away from anything. How you are supposed to do that and charge the car, I don't know. They are not replacing the cars and they are not buying them back. They are getting away with it.

Pharmaceutical companies are the least likely to get away with poor practices. Nearly 40,000 people died from car accidents in the USA in 2020. 9 times that many died from COVID. Vaccination is a simple and cost effective way to end the pandemic.

Every medication has some side effect. Just the same, people are living longer than at any time in history, because medicine is saving lives that had no hope not so long ago. I've had divine, instant healing, divine progressive healing and I've had divine healing courtesy of the hospital system. All healing is from God. The means of healing can change.

I have a little experience in the manufacturing side of pharmaceuticals. I've seen the documentation and testing requirements for the processes. It's one of the reasons that new medications are so outrageously expensive. Use your brain. Dead people are not good advertising for a health product. So no reputable company makes products that will kill. The automotive industry is not as well regulated and often hides flaws by blaming the driver.
here, in the US, companies that have manufactured a covid vaxx under the emergency measure enacted by President Trump, are IMMUNE from any type of responsibility for any side effect including 'final destination' (no I did not see the movie)

their immunity from angry people coming after them with torches and pitchforks is better than the immunity of what they have manufactured

I have a little experience in the manufacturing side of pharmaceuticals. I've seen the documentation and testing requirements for the processes. It's one of the reasons that new medications are so outrageously expensive. Use your brain. Dead people are not good advertising for a health product. So no reputable company makes products that will kill. The automotive industry is not as well regulated and often hides flaws by blaming the drive
do us all a favor, OK? do some research. what you say above is nonsense. all the big pharma companies here in the US have been sued multiple times, have lost in court a good number of times and been forced to pay out the big bucks in compensation

this current vaccine promotion is a boon for them. they are raking in dollars beyond their imaginings. at last they are free to just dispense away without repercussions

every word I have posted here is true. but you can google it yourself...I have posted all of that info more than once...so you can do your own homework

honest to pete what you post concerning this entire mess is fairy tales for the most part
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
FYI again I had COVID_19 and God healed me. I also received my vaccine, yet I am suffering from the side effects of that shot. I served in the Miltary and had 6 anthrax shots I am not against vaccines but I will not get another one. Your knee replacement I would think you were not told MUST get one done or you will be fired from work? Do you have to show Proof of your knee replacement?

Does your knee replacement address cancer, and youth suicide? apples to apples, please. The Science like Foulcheat did not see the tradeoff for long-term isolation, China did. politicians saw this as an opportunity to fleece the flock. In addition to saying all is because of climate change. Science is political today not objective but subjective.

That is wrong.

Concerning Cancer:
For years, it's been rumored Science has created several cures that would eliminate Radiation and such risk like the fallout from it.

It's like that young kid 5 years ago who Created the Cure for something amazing and then jacked the epi-pen to like $750,000 per pen. And the Government allows it.

But Science has discovered so many CURES, because that is what Science was originally designed to do, FIND CURES and figure out the UNKNOWNS! Problem is, Government and the Wealthy running behind the scene calling the shots.
 
S

SophieT

Guest
Amen!

I am trying to ask them if they want to put their Theory to the Test, we should do it!
sigh

herd immunity is not an expression someone in this thread invented you big science guy dude you

Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or mass immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that can occur with some diseases when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections,[1] thereby reducing the likelihood of infection for individuals who lack immunity.[2][3][4] Immune individuals are unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, disrupting chains of infection, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[5] The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual.[2]

Individuals can become immune by recovering from an earlier infection or through vaccination.[5] Some individuals cannot become immune because of medical conditions, such as an immunodeficiency or immunosuppression, and for this group herd immunity is a crucial method of protection.[6][7] Once the herd immunity threshold has been reached, disease gradually disappears from a population.[7] This elimination, if achieved worldwide, may result in the permanent reduction in the number of infections to zero, called eradication.[8] Herd immunity created via vaccination contributed to the eventual eradication of smallpox in 1977 and has contributed to the reduction of other diseases.[9] Herd immunity applies only to contagious disease, meaning that it is transmitted from one individual to another.[7] Tetanus, for example, is infectious but not contagious, so herd immunity does not apply.[6]

Herd immunity was recognized as a naturally occurring phenomenon in the 1930s when it was observed that after a significant number of children had become immune to measles, the number of new infections temporarily decreased.[10] Mass vaccination to induce herd immunity has since become common and proved successful in preventing the spread of many infectious diseases.[11] Opposition to vaccination has posed a challenge to herd immunity, allowing preventable diseases to persist in or return to populations with inadequate vaccination rates.[12][13][14]

The exact herd immunity threshold (HIT) varies depending on the basic reproduction number of the disease. An example of a disease with a high threshold is the measles, with a HIT exceeding 95%.[15]

wiki

the term was first used by a veterinarian

MOOOOOOO
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
Concerning Cancer:
For years, it's been rumored Science has created several cures that would eliminate Radiation and such risk like the fallout from it.

It's like that young kid 5 years ago who Created the Cure for something amazing and then jacked the epi-pen to like $750,000 per pen. And the Government allows it.

But Science has discovered so many CURES, because that is what Science was originally designed to do, FIND CURES and figure out the UNKNOWNS! Problem is, Government and the Wealth running behind the scene calling the shots.
And Big Pharma along with Gov tried to shut down Health Food shops by saying they were prescribing medicine - which they were and are but FREE from Gov and no money going to Big Pharma.

i had prostrate cancer and i beat it God's way which is through repentance of bad/unclean/unhealthy foods and turning to the foods that God had created for my health.

Now, when i say unclean, i m not refering to OT dietary laws.
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
sigh

herd immunity is not an expression someone in this thread invented you big science guy dude you

Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or mass immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that can occur with some diseases when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections,[1] thereby reducing the likelihood of infection for individuals who lack immunity.[2][3][4] Immune individuals are unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, disrupting chains of infection, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[5] The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual.[2]

Individuals can become immune by recovering from an earlier infection or through vaccination.[5] Some individuals cannot become immune because of medical conditions, such as an immunodeficiency or immunosuppression, and for this group herd immunity is a crucial method of protection.[6][7] Once the herd immunity threshold has been reached, disease gradually disappears from a population.[7] This elimination, if achieved worldwide, may result in the permanent reduction in the number of infections to zero, called eradication.[8] Herd immunity created via vaccination contributed to the eventual eradication of smallpox in 1977 and has contributed to the reduction of other diseases.[9] Herd immunity applies only to contagious disease, meaning that it is transmitted from one individual to another.[7] Tetanus, for example, is infectious but not contagious, so herd immunity does not apply.[6]

Herd immunity was recognized as a naturally occurring phenomenon in the 1930s when it was observed that after a significant number of children had become immune to measles, the number of new infections temporarily decreased.[10] Mass vaccination to induce herd immunity has since become common and proved successful in preventing the spread of many infectious diseases.[11] Opposition to vaccination has posed a challenge to herd immunity, allowing preventable diseases to persist in or return to populations with inadequate vaccination rates.[12][13][14]

The exact herd immunity threshold (HIT) varies depending on the basic reproduction number of the disease. An example of a disease with a high threshold is the measles, with a HIT exceeding 95%.[15]

wiki

the term was first used by a veterinarian

MOOOOOOO

I know the Term and belief is not New, but Thank You (y)

I am suggesting, for those who believe in it, Do It!
 

CS1

Well-known member
May 23, 2012
13,003
4,315
113
Let me ask this so I can see the other side View to your post I quoted and you have followed up to.

Are you saying, had the Schools been open, these Programs designed for youth suicide, and other programs were not in function so it's led to more suicides etc.

Or, what?

Because, I saw, crime rate, homicide rate, suicides in youth all lowered when Parents were forced to be a Parent during the Covid Shut Down!
actually, we have seen more spousal and child abuse increase during the shutdown because they were not able to be seen. Neglect was greatly under the radar. At most schools and churches which were closed in-person sessions were non-existent and distant learning was a failure in massive proportions.

there is 1 grader today in school who never went to kindergarten or preschool. There are two high school graduating classes that did not even walk to have a prom. While the NFL. MLB and NBA were playing Not one school were allowing school sports.

We buried over 2020 summer, 6 young people, due to drug, reckless driving and another 4 by Suicide.
The Cure was worst than the disease.

This was addressed early in 2020 by many school educators but the teachers Union and other shot it down. The statistics are well-known. Many will answer to the Living God for it.
 
S

SophieT

Guest
I know the Term and belief is not New, but Thank You (y)

I am suggesting, for those who believe in it, Do It!
well then....let WHO go first...read the article....it is actually very informative and contains far more info than most people would think

I learned more than I knew and have not yet read all of it

so maybe put your money where your eyes are, stop thinking you are being clever telling people here to go out and create herd immunity and READ

the actual best scenario for HD, appears to be vaccinations...according to this article

you may know the term as the rest of us do, but you do not know too much about it...and I never said I did and I never told anyone to go out and get some ;)
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
And Big Pharma along with Gov tried to shut down Health Food shops by saying they were prescribing medicine - which they were and are but FREE from Gov and no money going to Big Pharma.

i had prostrate cancer and i beat it God's way which is through repentance of bad/unclean/unhealthy foods and turning to the foods that God had created for my health.

Now, when i say unclean, i m not refering to OT dietary laws.
God has really blessed me and all of my life I've been able to maintain a Vitamin of my Choice Lifestyle versus those who take Medications daily. I might pop the occasional baby aspirin for the ole ticker, but that is the extent of it. But, I also have been able to avoid lots of things by studying what is good for the body versus not. My downfall is Beef and Pork because my life still is 95% chicken and turkey and vegis and the ingredients to the Old Testament Fast of nuts and fruits and lots of water.

But i've watched and saw many cold bodies end up on metal slabs once they became Medicine trapped.

The thing about my own Science, when dealing with Metallurgy, Chemistry, Biology, Mathematics, it's impossible to create a one size fits all Solution because the Genetic Make-up is different from human to human. But, there is NO MONEY to create something that fixes someone with this specific Genetics, or another. So, you end up trying to create a ONE SIZE fits all.

That is going to lead to injury!

But the MONEY behind the Scene don't care!
 

CS1

Well-known member
May 23, 2012
13,003
4,315
113
Concerning Cancer:
For years, it's been rumored Science has created several cures that would eliminate Radiation and such risk like the fallout from it.

It's like that young kid 5 years ago who Created the Cure for something amazing and then jacked the epi-pen to like $750,000 per pen. And the Government allows it.

But Science has discovered so many CURES, because that is what Science was originally designed to do, FIND CURES and figure out the UNKNOWNS! Problem is, Government and the Wealthy running behind the scene calling the shots.
look please don't tey to take me down the rabbit trail ok,

it is a known fact today many are not receiving Early detection of Cancer which would have happened but the medial COVID-19 fear and regulations have caused many to ignore signs for cause BE SCREENED. When time is so very critical for treatment.
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
look please don't tey to take me down the rabbit trail ok,

it is a known fact today many are not receiving Early detection of Cancer which would have happened but the medial COVID-19 fear and regulations have caused many to ignore signs for cause BE SCREENED. When time is so very critical for treatment.

Are you worried by children staying home they aren't around the Programs to help them like early cancer detection's?

So Covid Fear is keeping these young children from these needed programs?
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
That's Right, you live in Oakland!

You're in a Democratic Run State!

How long you been shut down?
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
Is there no way to go to these School Programs, get Documentation, and look for the real bad worse case scenario children and just drive to their Residence and check on them?

Where I live, the Government is paying the SCHOOLS to provide SACK LUNCHES for children who were forced home during the Pandemic!

These Children need food and the Government granted the Schools with Money to provide TWO DAILY MEALS.

Parents bringing their children down and leaving with a breakfast bag and later a lunch bag.
 

CS1

Well-known member
May 23, 2012
13,003
4,315
113
Are you worried by children staying home they aren't around the Programs to help them like early cancer detection?

So Covid Fear is keeping these young children from these needed programs?
it is affecting their parents, wearing a mask for 4 to 5 hours straight is not healthy. many people are reusing the same mask for days not knowing they break down. I am not worried I am telling you from what I am seeing and many other ministers of the gospel with congregations over 400 as our is call making more home and hospital visits for this very reason. I have seen an increase of 60 % in the past two years.
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
it is affecting their parents, wearing a mask for 4 to 5 hours straight is not healthy. many people are reusing the same mask for days not knowing they break down. I am not worried I am telling you from what I am seeing and many other ministers of the gospel with congregations over 400 as our is call making more home and hospital visits for this very reason. I have seen an increase of 60 % in the past two years.
all right man, i trust you.

I can only suggest contacting schools and seeing if you and church members can intervene and check up on the children these programs know are in most danger.

Too bad some Billionaire didn't need a TAX BREAK and buy a city block and build a Center and then take financial losses and live like a Trillionaire!

and the MASKS, I agree!

I am not a Fan how it's mandated in Cali
You must wear it driving in a car alone.
Why?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.