Vaccination?

[AandW]

Moderna's use of mRNA = Gene Therapy is the SAME as in Indiana a coke a cola is a [pop], but in Arizona, a coke a cola is a [SODA]!


Moderna's is full of crap and anyone with a clue knows it...BUT...they choose to misuse the Definition Wrong. Therefore, it's the READER who should know the FACTS on mRNA to not be DECEIVED!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I am not vaccinated. I have natural immunity (God's immunity). I recall a part in the movie Heat with Robert De Niro. Where he says if you can't drop and leave everything in 5 seconds then you would not survive in this business. This is the same when you follow Christ. The more attachments you have to this world, the harder it is to make that choice when the time comes. Less in this world = more in the Kingdom of Heaven.

So would you agree that getting the shot shows love thy neighbor? I ask because I see that you did not vote In the poll.

 

[PennEd]

So would you agree that getting the shot shows love thy neighbor?

No!

Absolutely not. Have you even been reading your thread?

It’s been conclusively proven that the vaccinated are getting and spreading, and are being hospitalized and dying, from the virus, sometimes at higher rates than the unvaccinated.

 

[AandW]

Why would we take Moderna, not even a 1% of the total Scientists existing in the World currently work for Moderna, and believe their definition of mRNA over the 99% of Science [including Believers in God in Biology and Chemistry - Mathematics] that claims mRNA cannot be in the same definition as Gene Therapy and Editing because mRNA cannot do as such?

mRNA has a SHORT shelf life!
In a couple days, you will POOP 99% out!
If you can POOP out mRNA fragments, it AIN't Gene Editing!

unless it's editing a TURD being flushed in the toilet!!

 

[PennEd]

So would you agree that getting the shot shows love thy neighbor? I ask because I see that you did not vote In the poll.

'Not Supposed To Happen': US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In COVID Cases

Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,
Vermont, the state with the highest vaccination rate in the United States, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic’s peak last winter.

The number of cases in Vermont is at a record level, hospitalizations are close to the records notched last winter, and the state recorded the deadliest day and the second deadliest month of the pandemic in September.

“I think it’s clearly frustrating for all of us,” Michael Pieciak, the commissioner of the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation who monitors CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus statistics for the state.​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443272185901027330

More than 69 percent of Vermont’s population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 as of Sept. 24, according to the CDC, far above the national rate of 56 percent.
The state recorded the highest rate of hospitalizations per 100,000 residents on Sept. 30, breaching a record set on Jan. 31 last year. Eight people died of the CCP virus in Vermont on Sept. 13, the highest grim total recorded since the outbreak of the virus.
In late August, four of ten cases of COVID-19 in Vermont were among vaccinated people, according to a letter signed by 90 employees of the Vermont Health Department, including state Epidemiologist Patsy Kelso.
Gov. Phil Scott (R) lifted the state of emergency in Vermont in June when 80 percent of the population had received at least one shot of the vaccine. He has since indicated he is wary of reimposing the state of emergency.


“We can’t be in a perpetual state of emergency,” Scott said this week.
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444002637158838272

 

[AandW]

'Not Supposed To Happen': US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In COVID Cases

Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,
Vermont, the state with the highest vaccination rate in the United States, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic’s peak last winter.

The number of cases in Vermont is at a record level, hospitalizations are close to the records notched last winter, and the state recorded the deadliest day and the second deadliest month of the pandemic in September.

“I think it’s clearly frustrating for all of us,” Michael Pieciak, the commissioner of the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation who monitors CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus statistics for the state.​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443272185901027330

More than 69 percent of Vermont’s population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 as of Sept. 24, according to the CDC, far above the national rate of 56 percent.
The state recorded the highest rate of hospitalizations per 100,000 residents on Sept. 30, breaching a record set on Jan. 31 last year. Eight people died of the CCP virus in Vermont on Sept. 13, the highest grim total recorded since the outbreak of the virus.
In late August, four of ten cases of COVID-19 in Vermont were among vaccinated people, according to a letter signed by 90 employees of the Vermont Health Department, including state Epidemiologist Patsy Kelso.
Gov. Phil Scott (R) lifted the state of emergency in Vermont in June when 80 percent of the population had received at least one shot of the vaccine. He has since indicated he is wary of reimposing the state of emergency.


“We can’t be in a perpetual state of emergency,” Scott said this week.
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444002637158838272

Let's look at the Facts here:

VERMONT:
The state reported 494 new cases among fully vaccinated Vermonters over the two-week reporting period, while 1,412 new cases were reported among those not fully vaccinated or whose vaccination status is unknown.

MAINE:
There are 41 [[fewer]] COVID-19 hospitalizations compared to a week ago. The number of people in the ICU and ventilators is [[at the lowest]] level since late August.

CONNECTICUT:
Aug 26, 2021 — The figures below show that. COVID-19 case rates, hospitalization rates and death rates have increased the most among unvaccinated persons.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

virtue signalling at its best

I have also been here quite a while....not 10 years, but this is not my 1st account. I've seen plenty from you and from eg too
he is no angel. you are one of the rudest people here when you get going.

for the record, Angela, no one is forced to do anything. unless of course you have no control over your actions

we make choices

you choose what you do just like everyone else



who had better get her way or else she will whop you good and throw all her credentials at you to prove you need to learn from her or die in your stupidity. basically, its a case of 'don't you know who I am?'

the hypocrisy is palatable

Are you saying we can have two accounts on (CC)Christian Chat?Now why would I have two accounts on here?

 

[Jocund]

And not even this is foolproof.

When it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Moderna's use of mRNA = Gene Therapy is the SAME as in Indiana a coke a cola is a [pop], but in Arizona, a coke a cola is a [SODA]!


Moderna's is full of crap and anyone with a clue knows it...BUT...they choose to misuse the Definition Wrong. Therefore, it's the READER who should know the FACTS on mRNA to not be DECEIVED!

I got two Moderna shots.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

No!

Absolutely not. Have you even been reading your thread?

It’s been conclusively proven that the vaccinated are getting and spreading, and are being hospitalized and dying, from the virus, sometimes at higher rates than the unvaccinated.

I think this Is misinformation Brother PennEd.

 

[Aidan1]

More lies in this post than I can shake a stick at!

Show me the lies! If you can!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I think this Is misinformation Brother PennEd.

The reason I say that I think It might be be misinformation Is because all the beds are being occupied by the unvaccinated.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

When it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

True

But when you get to heaven and God asks why you hear you was not supposed to be here yet. And you say because you did not want to take that evil vaccine.

Well lets hope God does not tell you you should have because he allowed that vaccine to happen to help people.

We can tempt God by not taking the things he has offered us.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am not vaccinated. I have natural immunity (God's immunity). I recall a part in the movie Heat with Robert De Niro. Where he says if you can't drop and leave everything in 5 seconds then you would not survive in this business. This is the same when you follow Christ. The more attachments you have to this world, the harder it is to make that choice when the time comes. Less in this world = more in the Kingdom of Heaven.

So my step daughters mother a God fearing believer who was doing what she was supposed to. Died because she did not have Gods immunity?

Why do you get it and not her?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No!

Absolutely not. Have you even been reading your thread?

It’s been conclusively proven that the vaccinated are getting and spreading, and are being hospitalized and dying, from the virus, sometimes at higher rates than the unvaccinated.

conspiracy theory

You will believe anything anyone posts as long as it supports you

I am sorry brother. I can not rely on you as an honest open humble witness on these issues anymore.

 

[JohnDB]

Why do you say Moderna is more reliable...higher efficacy rate?

The Moderna vaccine is more stable at warmer temperatures and thereby able to be more effective and getting to the lymph glands before breaking down...

Most of every injection of a vaccine is removed by your liver within 24 hours...there's a very small amount that actually remains in the tissue surrounding the injection site which makes it to the nearest lymph nodes and is therapeutic. (Armpit and under your collar bone and possibly neck)
The Pfizer vaccine has to be stored at such low temperatures because it isn't stable otherwise and breaks down chemically speaking. The exact same thing will happen whether it's inside your body or outside. It isn't harmful when reverting to more stable compounds but it isn't therapeutic either.
Your lymphatic system is all over your body....head to toes. And we need the "message" of messenger Rhybo-Nucleic Acid to get everywhere so that your entire immune system will create antibodies against this virus. Not just one or two lymph nodes.

And apparently the Moderna vaccine, by being more stable, is doing a better job with protection against disease than Pfizer's vaccine. Booster shots are not needed as often because the antibody load is higher for longer with those who have gotten the Moderna over the Pfizer. (Yeah... Walmart had it going on better)

Now with respect to these variants (Beta and Delta) a high antibody load is needed to combat these two.

Currently Mu and Lamda variants need different antibodies than what these vaccines make. Even the monoclonal antibody treatments don't do anything for those infected with those variants. (Which are spreading and gaining ground)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Show me the lies! If you can!

even if he could. It would be something he got off the internet.

He has more faith in the internet that I do.

 

[SophieT]

I can tell you pigs fly
But if you don't see any flying I am LYING

Under the Microscope, Gene Manipulation has failed 100% every time.
So, if [[YOU]] believe these companies, when the proof is under the microscope FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE, I have some OCEAN FRONT PROPERTY FOR SALE IN TUSCON, ARIZONA for YOU TO BUY!!

I even give the Stupid a Bigger Rebate, so it's a Win Win all around for YOU!

so utterly absurd

from the site of the manufacturer of the vaccine and you come back with the above

nonsensical comments designed to create the impression you are working off of actual knowledge when in fact you CANNOT respond because you would have to admit your error(s)

so many like you parading around under the guise of actually caring for others when you are simply caring for your own decisions and verify those with subjective experience

 

[AandW]

I got two Moderna shots.

I am just stating their idealism that mRNA is gene therapy is a false claim.

Moderna works with J&J which is why I chose Pfizer.

I worked for J&J for 17 years in the fields of Orthopedics, Biology, Chemistry, Metallurgy, and other areas on the Floor.

I would trust their implants all day long, but their Science behind their Vaccines I would question all day long!
They're using Stem Cells and have no idea what they're doing!

The fact Moderna partners with J&J troubles me!

 

[SophieT]

So the company scientists themselves TELL you it’s a gene therapy, you don’t believe them, and I’M the one who is stupid!?
Bet you didn’t even watch the scientist from Moderna explain WHY it’s a gene therapy!

Woah. I bet you’re an excellent driver.

what's the expression?

ignorance is bliss?

they don't watch the videos or check out the links for the most part. it's just the stock in trade 'cough up a hairball' response