VACCINE CULT?

[Dude653]

There's a social element to vaccines. People like to talk about which brand of vaccine they got, their experience, how they felt, etc. They also like knowing who isn't vaccinated and why, usually to gossip negative things about them.

Vaccines seem to be quickly becoming a thread in the fabric of culture.

Yeah it's called wanting to not die which is why I chose to be vaccinated

 

[ResidentAlien]

Frankly, I'm starting to see the Vaxxers and the Anti-Vaxxers as cults that should be avoided.

 

[Runningman]

Yeah it's called wanting to not die which is why I chose to be vaccinated

No, I'm sure you take risks every day that could result in death but you do them any way. If you really didn't want to die you would not take risks at all, yet here you are.

You took the vaccine because you were convinced to by propaganda.

 

[Genipher]

Frankly, I'm starting to see the Vaxxers and the Anti-Vaxxers as cults that should be avoided.

It's a good thing you're neither, eh? Can claim the moral high ground.

 

[iamsoandso]

Frankly, I'm starting to see the Vaxxers and the Anti-Vaxxers as cults that should be avoided.

Yep a year or so ago there would be close to a thousand guest viewing the threads at any time and now it's down to four or five hundred most days,, seems to be a shared opinion among Christians...

 

[Runningman]

Frankly, I'm starting to see the Vaxxers and the Anti-Vaxxers as cults that should be avoided.

No.

Cults normally have an authoritarian, charismatic, leader. Vaxxers have centralized leadership called the government who are authoritarian and sometimes charismatic. Vaxxers neatly fit the definition of cultists.

Anti-vaxxers do not have centralized leadership. Anti-vaxxers are just counter-culture to vaxxers and therefore anti-cultist.

 

[ResidentAlien]

It's a good thing you're neither, eh? Can claim the moral high ground.

LOL. . .whatever.

 

[ResidentAlien]

No.

Cults normally have an authoritarian, charismatic, leader. Vaxxers have centralized leadership called the government who are authoritarian and sometimes charismatic. Vaxxers neatly fit the definition of cultists.

Anti-vaxxers do not have centralized leadership. Anti-vaxxers are just counter-culture to vaxxers and therefore anti-cultist.

I disagree, but to each their own.

 

[Runningman]

I disagree, but to each their own.

This isn't an opinion to disagree with. What a cult is is bound by a strict objective definition. The correct response by you would be 'I was wrong.'

 

[ZNP]

This isn't an opinion to disagree with. What a cult is is bound by a strict objective definition. The correct response by you would be 'I was wrong.'

Oh please, it is clearly an expression of group think. Probably the least well defined thing is a cult.

Pull up Merriam Webster's definition and explain to me how the early church in the book of Acts does not fit that definition to a t.

 

[Runningman]

Oh please, it is clearly an expression of group think. Probably the least well defined thing is a cult.

Pull up Merriam Webster's definition and explain to me how the early church in the book of Acts does not fit that definition to a t.

The difference between a cult and a religion is that a cult seeks the well-being of itself while a religion seeks the well-being of others.

I am a bit disappointed to see you have not realized this.

Christianity is all about humanitarianism: love your neighbor as yourself, love your enemies, go the extra mile, support widows/orphans, visit the sick, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, it's better to give than to receive, and so much more.

This is Christianity 101. You think we're a cult?

 

[ZNP]

The difference between a cult and a religion is that a cult seeks the well-being of itself while a religion seeks the well-being of others.

I am a bit disappointed to see you have not realized this.

Christianity is all about humanitarianism: love your neighbor as yourself, love your enemies, go the extra mile, support widows/orphans, visit the sick, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, it's better to give than to receive, and so much more.

This is Christianity 101. You think we're a cult?

I have seen the difference which is why I don't agree that cult is a well defined concept. I asked you to pull up the Merriam Webster definition, you didn't.

Stop trying to infer my meaning and put words into my mouth and pretend you have ESP when you can't even defend your post with the simplest of requests.

 

[ZNP]

No.

Cults normally have an authoritarian, charismatic, leader. Vaxxers have centralized leadership called the government who are authoritarian and sometimes charismatic. Vaxxers neatly fit the definition of cultists.

Anti-vaxxers do not have centralized leadership. Anti-vaxxers are just counter-culture to vaxxers and therefore anti-cultist.

Merriam Webster definition of a cult
1: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious (see SPURIOUS sense 2)also : its body of adherents the voodoo culta satanic cult
2a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (such as a film or book)criticizing how the media promotes the cult of celebrity especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
b: the object of such devotion
c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion the singer's cult of fansThe film has a cult following.
3: a system of religious beliefs and ritual also : its body of adherents the cult of Apollo
4: formal religious veneration : WORSHIP
5: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator

Clearly the fifth definition is perfectly appropriate to use for vaxxers and anti vaxxers. Stop pretending you define terms and instead try reading a dictionary before correcting others.

 

[Runningman]

I have seen the difference which is why I don't agree that cult is a well defined concept. I asked you to pull up the Merriam Webster definition, you didn't.

Stop trying to infer my meaning and put words into my mouth and pretend you have ESP when you can't even defend your post with the simplest of requests.

That's not how this works. I don't need to defend my post by doing the work you assign to me. For the record, I had already looked at the definition of 'cult' before you told me to.

If you make a claim then the burden of proof is on you.

Here's my proof that Christianity is not a cult:

James 1:27
27Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

[Runningman]

Merriam Webster definition of a cult
1: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious (see SPURIOUS sense 2)also : its body of adherents the voodoo culta satanic cult
2a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (such as a film or book)criticizing how the media promotes the cult of celebrity especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
b: the object of such devotion
c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion the singer's cult of fansThe film has a cult following.
3: a system of religious beliefs and ritual also : its body of adherents the cult of Apollo
4: formal religious veneration : WORSHIP
5: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator

Clearly the fifth definition is perfectly appropriate to use for vaxxers and anti vaxxers. Stop pretending you define terms and instead try reading a dictionary before correcting others.

Here's something you don't seem to understand about dictionaries: the highest definitions on the list are the most commonly accepted and applicable definitions. The lower items on the list are least common and least accepted.

You're attempting to prove your point using the #5 definition from Merriam-Webster. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[ZNP]

Here's something you don't seem to understand about dictionaries: the highest definitions on the list are the most commonly accepted and applicable definitions. The lower items on the list are least common and least accepted.

You're attempting to prove your point using the #5 definition from Merriam-Webster. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Here is something you don't understand about dictionaries, the first definition does not trump the 5th. You can use any of these five definitions and based on the context it is appropriate. Referring to Anti Vaxxers and Pro Vaxxers as a cult is obviously a reference to the 5th definition.

The more you talk the more you expose your ignorance.

 

[ZNP]

That's not how this works. I don't need to defend my post by doing the work you assign to me. For the record, I had already looked at the definition of 'cult' before you told me to.

If you make a claim then the burden of proof is on you.

Here's my proof that Christianity is not a cult:

James 1:27
27Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Yo, bozo, try looking at post #73, the one directly above this, the one that quoted you.

 

[Runningman]

Here is something you don't understand about dictionaries, the first definition does not trump the 5th. You can use any of these five definitions and based on the context it is appropriate. Referring to Anti Vaxxers and Pro Vaxxers as a cult is obviously a reference to the 5th definition.

The more you talk the more you expose your ignorance.

I used the Bible to prove Christianity isn't a cult. You use a dictionary to prove Christianity is a cult. I wonder who's wrong? You.

 

[Runningman]

Yo, bozo, try looking at post #73, the one directly above this, the one that quoted you.

Oh you're name calling now? How tasteless. You've clearly run out of good ideas.

 

[ZNP]

I used the Bible to prove Christianity isn't a cult. You use a dictionary to prove Christianity is a cult. I wonder who's wrong? You.

Whoa! OK, give me the verse reference for the Bible that refers to cults. Because I missed you using the Bible. No one was saying that Christianity was a cult which again shows you can't even understand english. I referred to the early church in Acts, it wasn't "Christianity" at that point, it wasn't an established religion, it was considered a sect of Judaism.