Vaccination?

[John146]

I was healed and have eternal life
that does not say I will not be harmed by drinking poison or getting ill

Jesus authorized the use if
Medicine for sickness. If you don’t want to take it that’s on you. But don’t tell others it’s evil if they take it. That would be on you also. Especially if they die and they could have been saved

Not arguing brother, but what if you advocate for the vaccine and people die? We have no idea what the 2 year, 5 year, or 10 year efficacy of the shot may be. It was not properly studied or vetted as other vaccines. The study is going on right now. What I do know is we have treatment options available that have been shown to work. It's a crime against humanity to suppress such treatments.

 

[sonshine]

Let's not allow this topic to divide the body of Christ.

It already has...........

You are witnessing the days of shaft and wheat getting separated.
The Lord is coming back for a GLORIOUS church.
The "church" right now is not glorious.

 

[1ofthem]

It's great to be you.

My wife will have life-long respiratory issues out of her covid infection. Our neighbor across the street is even worse off.

It sucks to be them.

Again, a great show of Christian compassion

This is an awful thing to say to someone. It is no one's fault if someone gets Covid.

All any of us can do is pray for others and do what we feel led to do. No, way we can protect others. That is just the current propaganda.

I thought the shots were supposed to do the protecting. Apparently, they failed.

Now, Fauci and all the rest are saying it's because not enough people have taken the vaccine. That is absurd. What if the actual mutation is caused by taking the vaccines? The vaccines may be causing the virus to mutate.

I mean, I've heard all my life by doctors and the scientific community....we can't give out too many antibiotics because they are causing new super virus/bacteria strains in which the virus/bacteria become resistant to antibiotics.

It's highly possible that could be what happened. Who knows though Dr. Fauci and the CDC have been caught in so many lies already that no one believes a word they say.

Now they are talking about a new variation that is resistant to the vaccine and in 49 states already. Dr. Fauci says no need to worry about that now...Just be a good little lamb, do as your told, and get your shot....It is the loving thing to do regardless of how ineffective it is and how many potentially serious adverse reactions it has caused.

 

[Clermont1029]

You bet satan is behind this. Using the media, the government, and what ever he can. He's deceiving people too. He's deceived a lot of people into believing that their rights are above everything else. He's deceived people that compassion for the poor and sick is passe. He's deceived people that a con man is their savior. He's deceived people into not doing the right things, because the wrong people are asking them to. He's deceived people into abandoning the truth of their first love. 1 Timothy 4, Matthew 24:24, Romans 16, it's all coming to pass right before our very eyes.

and? What if I believe this? Does that make me antibiblical? I took the shot because I love my family and kids because I want to enjoy them as long as I can. and in my condition if I get covid. I doubt I would survive.

If that offends you. forgive me. It is how I feel.

I am not divided at all.


Can you please show me where I said you should take a shot so I do not have to wear a mask? Because I never said any such thing. I do not think anyone should have to wear a mask in my view..


so do not listen to media or these people. But listen to your people? because they are trustworthy?

As I said. I DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE. I do not trust your people any more than I trust other people. I have people I trust telling me the opposite of what these men said. so who should I listen to?

And this is not a for jesus or against jesus topic. Stop trying to make it one

If you want to take the shot. take it. If you do not want to take it. don't.

The shot works. I have seen the results.

I have not seen one person die from the shot. Not saying no one has. People die from shots all the time. does that mean the shot is bad? NO!

If the shot was as bad as all these people say it is MILLIONS wouldf die. and I myself would have at least witnessed one person.

You are waiting for one person you know to be killed?

I personally know 5 people who have been killed by covid. I know people personally who have had loved ones die from vocid (even though I do not know them) In the past 2 weeks I know of 2 people who had died. My nephews brother in law is on life support and not expected to make it. and my wife's boss mother in law is not expected to make it through the day.

EVERYONE I know are believers. It is not like these are worldly people trying to scare people or spread false information. These are people I know and trust.

so just because you have not seen anyone does NOT MEAN NO ONE HAS DIED

Get over yourself. You are part of the problem not the solution.

Again you take words out of context. I said I have yet to know anyone who died from covid but also have yet to see anyone die from the flu this year but I guess nobody has. Can you not even entertain the scripture that points to families being divided, wars and famine, plagues, nation against nation? Increase in earthquakes and other natural disasters?
Is this is a conspiracy? Tell me is the Bible a conspiracy or prophecy that needs to be addressed. I for one am trying to bring people to Jesus Christ because that is the correct way to save people. Not a man made vaccine subscription service that once mandated opens the door for anyone to be marked with what?
Scripture is the truth of the situation we find ourselves in and you’re being deceived. This is a great time to be alive and our Lord Jesus will be returning soon.
I’m going to end my conversation with you now but I know you see that something isn’t right with what is happening now. it’s about waking people and saving them, not from a virus but from eternity in hell.

 

[1ofthem]

It's great to be you.

My wife will have life-long respiratory issues out of her covid infection. Our neighbor across the street is even worse off.

It sucks to be them.

Again, a great show of Christian compassion

How about we reverse the situation here and see how you feel about it.

My family is Christians. They all got in line to protect themselves and others by getting a vaccine that has not been fully tested. It was the loving thing to do...you know. They told me the same thing you're saying here. Go get the shot to protect yourself and others. I declined and asked that they wait a little while so that the effects of vaxx might have more time to be researched and just to find if there were any complications in others who were getting vaxxed.

Well, long story short, one family member who is young and was completely healthy before being vaxxed was hospitalized shortly after the 2nd shot and now suffers from neurological issues. Now no one in my family is planning on taking any booster shots.

Not everyone that gets vaxxed suffers side effects.

Sucks to be one of the ones that do, though, right.

What a great show of Christian compassion.... pushing the propaganda that if you don't take the vax then you don't love others.

Like I said in my previous post, all we can do is pray and do what we feel led to do.

I don't have the right to judge your love for others, and you don't have the right to judge my love for others. God's the judge. He knows our hearts.

 

[sonshine]

And there are Christians in Afghanistan ( and elsewhere) who would say there's a disconnect in that somewhere.

Well, the same Bible that says this ALSO says that there will be persecution for His name sake.
And I WILL NOT go there with you in the thread.
If you want to go there then I suggest opening a thread for it.

 

[sonshine]

My Bible does not tell Me I can tempt God and drink poison
if yours does you need a new bible

and yet you boast of WILLFULLY putting God knows what into your body with the current jab.

 

[sonshine]

I was healed and have eternal life
that does not say I will not be harmed by drinking poison or getting ill

Jesus authorized the use if
Medicine for sickness. If you don’t want to take it that’s on you. But don’t tell others it’s evil if they take it. That would be on you also. Especially if they die and they could have been saved

you are WONDERFUL..........................



(at putting words in other peoples mouth )

Again, please show me where I said this.

I never said it's evil or not to take it.
I have only said what is written in the Word of God.
What He has said in His word.

 

[sonshine]

About as blatently ignorant statements as I have heard.

What about aaaallll those faithful Christians who have caught and died from it or are suffering life-long effects?

Besides, you know, it sucks to be them?

do you know the conditions of their hearts?
You don't know how many people have cried out "Lord Lord!" while DOUBTING that He can and will.

And don't turn around and think this heartless or insensitive because I HAVE LOST LOVED ONES TO THIS TOO.

 

[JTB]

How about we reverse the situation here and see how you feel about it.

My family is Christians. They all got in line to protect themselves and others by getting a vaccine that has not been fully tested. It was the loving thing to do...you know. They told me the same thing you're saying here. Go get the shot to protect yourself and others. I declined and asked that they wait a little while so that the effects of vaxx might have more time to be researched and just to find if there were any complications in others who were getting vaxxed.

Well, long story short, one family member who is young and was completely healthy before being vaxxed was hospitalized shortly after the 2nd shot and now suffers from neurological issues. Now no one in my family is planning on taking any booster shots.

Not everyone that gets vaxxed suffers side effects.

Sucks to be one of the ones that do, though, right.

What a great show of Christian compassion.... pushing the propaganda that if you don't take the vax then you don't love others.

Like I said in my previous post, all we can do is pray and do what we feel led to do.

I don't have the right to judge your love for others, and you don't have the right to judge my love for others. God's the judge. He knows our hearts.

Honestly, it sucks to be all of us at this point. satan has so muddied the waters by playing both sides against each other ... and we ain't seen nothin' yet

(final answer)

 

[Gideon300]

If someone dies from X thing then what is God's message to their family? Everyone dies bro. There is no such thing as preventable death. It's only arriving against the inevitable.

God's will is for people to die of old age, healthy, not with a ventilator strapped on because they cannot breath. I am amazed at the callousness of some commentators. I wonder how they will feel when it's their parent/spouse/child in ICU fighting for life.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Isaiah 53 says that by HIS wounds I am HEALED.
therefore, even if something does attack my body I am healed through Christ. (and I have NO DOUBT that that also includes Covid and all it's variants. The Lord has proven this to me time and time again, I have NO REASON to start DOUBTING Him now)

I am not afraid of death in this world........
are you?

When I die, I know where I'll go and Who I will be with.

Since GOD IS ALMIGHTY and you don’t have to worry about death do you think that those who are not born again and unvaccinated might get the virus and die and be judged guilty.Would you feel that getting the shot from your heart saying”I don’t know If this shot works but I’m getting It just In case It does work would be loving your neighbor In action?

The reason I ask If you think this Is loving your neighbor was because I see you did not vote In the poll.

 

[Aidan1]

Frontlinemds.com

Hydroxy
Ivermectin
Predisone
Z Pack
Albuterol breathing treatment
High dose vitamin D, C, and Zinc

I took them all. They will send it to sick patients overnight. It costs like $185 though. Better than going to the hospital or taking the shot, imo. We don't know what the 2 year, 5 year, or 10 year efficacy of the shot. Neither do we know how many more boosters will be given.

Good for those who will have the money for buy the medicine; for those which get the correct dosis;
For those which can bear the sideeffects;
Whats about those which have mo money,? takeing the wrong doses? Suffer because of the sideeffects?

Yes it is a quite new way for an vaccine. And of course their is a risk. The Alternative is so long the virus is active and there is not found an other way of treatment: let them die!

And in mankind we never had this challenge combined with the knowledge to produce a stuff to fight against in such a short time.

 

[Runningman]

God's will is for people to die of old age, healthy, not with a ventilator strapped on because they cannot breath. I am amazed at the callousness of some commentators. I wonder how they will feel when it's their parent/spouse/child in ICU fighting for life.

Plenty of examples of people dying by God's will who didn't die of old age. You know this. Why be dishonest about God's will just to conform to a pro-vaccine narrative? Repent.

 

[shittim]

God's will is for people to die of old age, healthy, not with a ventilator strapped on because they cannot breath. I am amazed at the callousness of some commentators. I wonder how they will feel when it's their parent/spouse/child in ICU fighting for life.

Moses climbed mount Nebo the day the Lord took him home, it says his eyesite had not dimmed nor his hearing abated.
It appears Enoch was "translated" and did not die, Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind, these men walked with God, they did not merely know about Him or listen to some =one talk about Him for a hour 1 day a week.
That is what it means to "abide" in Him as He requires of us.

 

[CS1]

Plenty of examples of people dying by God's will who didn't die of old age. You know this. Why be dishonest about God's will just to conform to a pro-vaccine narrative? Repent.

in the past three weeks, I have seen more untimely deaths of people I know more than ever.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

exactly....the prophylactics have been suppressed, mocked and ridiculed by the left

literally thousands of doctors have said they work but the empty barrels are making the most noise

The spike protein is the toxic part of the virus responsible for the most unique effects of the virus, such as the blood clotting disorders, neurological problems and heart damage. To expect the COVID shot to not produce these kinds of effects would be rather naïve
Nature Reviews Drug Discovery, Aug. 25,2021

NO ONE knows the long term effects of the dna altering poison. The FDA has approved something that they do not know the long term effects of, while saying 4 months is the magic number

believing in so called 'experts' these days seems more like walking on thin ice. pay attention to the thin ice signs

What is funny is COVID itself causes all of these side affec ts (blood clotting, Neurological problems, Heart damage) in people who have NEVER had the shot (As ne example, my sister in law had blood clotting and had to have heart surgery diue to damage caused by Covid 19, so I am using real life example. Not something I read in the paper)

so it is logical to suspect that any vaccine whuch attempts to fight the disease MAY CAUSE THE SAME ISSUES

What boggles my mind is people do not put 2 and 2 together.

It is my guess that the antibodies our bodies produce to fight the covid CAUSES those symptoms. and nt the virus itself.

But I guess no ne ever thought of this.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Bible isn't false, a reprobate custodian might think it is......

Your right, The Bible is not false.

You should check in the mirror before you judge others however.

Even the pharisees thought they were the masters f the word.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

said the double minded custodian......

You have serious issues my friend. You need help. Your pride is above reason

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Big Brother is very clever. He has even made some Christians into vaccine pushers.

Who is pushing any vaccine?