Vaccination?

[Blik]

It's just partially cooked and then dried so the next cooking process doesn't take as long.

That is not so. It tells us just what is done to the oatmeal to change it on the net, look it up.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Listen here buddy. I decide what goes into my body, not you or anyone else. I also don't go near my neighbors. Blame China for virus because they are responsible for it and anyone who gets sick and/or dies is their fault not those refuse to get shot.

Maybe I should have put this poll In another forum because your response sounded totally flesh minded to my post.

 

[Aidan1]

People who had taken shots can still spread the virus, spreading it nicely to others without knowing it

Correct, but less then unvaccined infectet people.

 

[John146]

The virus is simply the result of not accepting our food as God created it. Our immune system is dependent on carbs, and all grins that are carbs are tampered with by men. Just as men are not to tamper with the word to add or take away from it, man is not to tamper with our food.

You can't even get a simple hamburger sandwich anywhere except one served on bread that has been so adjusted that only the white tasteless starch is left.

Science calls this diet the SAD diet, (Standard American Diet) and say it is sad that we eat this way. Even our cornmeal is process, taking out the germ. Oatmeal is processed making it instant oatmeal. You have to carefully read the ingredients of the bread we buy to get bread that is made of unprocessed grain. Brown bread is sometimes white bread with brown food coloring to make it brown.

Whole plant based diet for me. I feel great.

 

[John146]

Some believe that getting vaccinated for the covid shows fear and a lack of faith and some believe that since GOD Is almighty,getting the vaccine even If It kills them shows love for their neighbor protecting them from the covid and GOD will look at their motivation for getting the shot.JESUS died for us and love covers a multitude of sins.

There over 1.3 million people killed on roadways every year. If the media covered all these deaths every hour on the hour, did stories on their families, and played videos of them dying in the hospital, no one would want to drive. People would be scared to death.

 

[Yahshua]

I chose "other".

I think it's pretty unfair for folks to guilt or accuse someone of harming others by not getting the vaccine. Such guilt-tripping assumes that "Vaccines = immunity" when no vaccine - in the history of vaccines - has ever created immunity. Vaccines are the "Paul Revere" of biology, warning your body of a possible threat. It's then the body's job (specifically the immune system's) to build up defenses with that information. This is high school biology. So one's immunity is and has always been the responsibility of the body, and is subject to the strength of the immune system.

This means two things:

1) There is no such thing as "breakthrough cases", it simply means the person's immune system didn't do its job when presented with the early warning information. So no matter how many shots one takes, that won't guarantee one's immunity against the virus.

2) There are those whose immune systems are so strong they don't need vaccination in order to build immunity (i.e. antibodies) against the virus.

What's also unfair is those accusing and blaming assume the person is not taking any other preventative measures; that the only salvation is vaccination. So in essence, folks have created a religion out of vaccination. "Accept the vaccine into your body and you will be saved".

On the other hand, I don't think taking the vaccine is showing a lack of faith, especially if one is in a situation that requires it be taken and that they're not doing so out of fear but out of necessity (to remain employed, etc. etc.). As far as I'm concerned, we're already much further along in this end-times drama. I believe the mark of the beast isn't a physical mark but a spiritual one where people put their trust in the world's system, instead of faith in the Almighty and the Messiah. I think we've all been born into the Beast system and are tasked with waking up (almost like the movie The Matrix).

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Personally, I haven't taken the Covid vaccine or flu vaccines for decades. But I wear my mask, social distance, and have long since maintained healthy cleaning habits (due to having a mother with a bit of OCD lol), along with eating right, avoiding unhealthy substances, exercising, and getting enough sleep, all to keep my immune system strong.

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In terms of conspiracy; if anything, the conspiracy is one of fleecing the people out of more money. Big Pharma made obscene profits this past year while many economies floundered. How?

1) We made a test that tested for covid antibodies. So if a person had an abundance of antibodies they tested "positive" for covid. Well, wait a sec......Aren't the presence of antibodies evidence that the immune system is defending against the virus? Isn't that what vaccines hope to encourage? Why weren't those who were labeled "asymptomatic" simply called "immune"?

2) Instead of gathering blood samples from all of the "asymptomatic" individuals, separating out their plasma to mass-produce an antibody serum, like we used to do, we give no-bid contracts (i.e. advance payments) to companies to develop a "new" product - using "new" technology - to try to solve the problem. And typically, when offering new products with new technology, businesses can charge top dollar to sell them (but make sure everyone signs a waiver acknowledging they can't guarantee it helps or even that it won't harm = no lawsuits).

3) Meanwhile, prior to distributing these new products, when 100% of the nation was unvaccinated we were flattening the curve. Cases were at an all-time low at the beginning of this year. However, when the new product was ready ALL other preventative measures were ended. So now, with 50% of the nation vaccinated, cases are at an all-time high. And yet there's a marketing campaign to blame the unvaccinated for the rise, even though both the vaccinated and unvaccinated are contracting symptoms and being hospitalized.

4) Now they're talking about "booster shots" because of "breakthrough cases" and even "newer" strains.


Ka-ching!

 

[JohnDB]

that is not true. The vaccine has nothing to do with the care of your fellow man, it is all about control, these same types who cried about COVID-19 have not life one finger to help Chicago. Your revisionist talking points of American history are false.

So you don't believe that love for your fellow man is a Hallmark of Christianity? Maybe you should read John's three letters that come just before Revelations.

And of course the pilgrims were there to proselytize the indigenous population...that was the main reason they came...the persecution was just another reason that made making the trip easier.

And I have yet to find a historian that doesn't believe that the pilgrims infected and killed by infecting those that they ate with.

Meh...the pilgrims were drinking a lot of beer...they probably didn't notice at first.

 

[laymen]

The reality is there is no such thing as free. All this will be paid for, mostly by people who are not well off and who actually pay tax.

I agree its not free free but our tax dollar could be better than breaking my bank .

 

[rayzor]

I agree its not free free but our tax dollar could be better than breaking my bank .

your sometimes go broke by making yourself a prophet....blessed r the poor in spirit

 

[laymen]

your sometimes go broke by making yourself a prophet....blessed r the poor in spirit

Profit? or prophet?

 

[rayzor]

Profit? or prophet?

semantics i was trying 2 b funny

 

[Nehemiah6]

This isnt about a vaccine for a deadly illness. Its total control and moving towards NWO.

Correct. Lack of discernment would be more appropriate. and all Christians have had 18 months to investigate this Satanic conspiracy and deception. I was speaking out against it soon after all the lockdowns etc were put in place. They had no scientific basis or merit.

 

[CS1]

So you don't believe that love for your fellow man is a Hallmark of Christianity? Maybe you should read John's three letters that come just before Revelations.

And of course the pilgrims were there to proselytize the indigenous population...that was the main reason they came...the persecution was just another reason that made making the trip easier.

And I have yet to find a historian that doesn't believe that the pilgrims infected and killed by infecting those that they ate with.

Meh...the pilgrims were drinking a lot of beer...they probably didn't notice at first.

no, I do not believe your false narrative in context to the COVID-19 vaccine

 

[rayzor]

angles put that into people,besides heaven & hell with in.

 

[JohnDB]

no, I do not believe your false narrative in context to the COVID-19 vaccine

You are more than welcome to check history books or other sources.

But it's kinda a well known fact.
Why would I lie? What benefit would it be to lie about such a well known fact and easily verifiable.

 

[rayzor]

people sickness don't work that way.......puny gentile minds i tell .....

 

[Blade]

This is just.. a game I won't play any more. So much keeps being said that is not true. The lack of love for those that got side effects that some have never seen or known anyone praise GOD but.. we do. Or the ones that have died after getting the vaccine..yet being told here "vaccine won't kill you". Last days.. love. Its like..not here unless I missed it seen posts about so and so no vaccine died of covid. You ask and what? That was it.. Christian site.. some few noticed no one is praying. Someone lost a loved one.. shocked at no love..just used as one said ..just used them. We know someone family that came from some other country...I forgot where...one of those out side of Russia. Hes right now in the hospital..not doing good at all...not talking. We don't know if he got the vaccine or not.. holy JESUS.. yet some use people like that. He had pre conditions and smoked before I ever knew him. Its as if.. we don't know them see them so.. who cares.

Said many times.. ask to see people through His eyes.... you will never see people the same. No one knows the love He has for us.. speak word of life.. faith.. yeah if we do something that is not by faith it never pleases the Father..hello that should really matter. Without faith we can never please Him. So I know now.. it is always has been be it flu shot or vaccine.. I know what can touch me and what has no right. What did you think when you first read the ops post or other posts here? Truly mine as always are things like this

"You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day,6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday. A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you."

Its not a hope... I just know it will always be like that. You have no clue as to how many times because you believe in JESUS ..in that moment and those around you were never touched or hurt...or something wonderful happened. You never saw it...yet your faith in JESUS.. Satan could not touch you or those around you. Not ever time since .. we are in a fallen world and we see hear feel and then.. doubt comes...but you have no clue how many times Hes blessed watched over you...it was your FIATH! So please.. stop the guilt trips.. help speak words of live.. want the shot? Praise GOD..don't praise GOD! Even GOD will not say a word...yet some do.. were not God nor have the right to touch any of HIS kids

 

[Aidan1]

well , let's see.

in my state of georgia ( u s ) , the survival rate for covid is 98.3%.

hospitalization rate is about 8%.

so, by your reasoning, i should take a vax that i would have a 50/50 chance of having a adverse reaction to, meanwhile there is a 98.3% chance i will survive covid, and a 92% chance of not going to hospital , and on top of that, right now our rate off infection is about 17%, so there is a 82% chance of testing negative if i got tested.


so, if if me using that data to make decisions is being fanatical , then so be it.

Well maby you must realize that the vaccination is not made for those which dont need it. It is made for the 2-3 % of mankind which would not survive it.
And because nobody knows before that he will survive it, all need it.
The last 18 month showed that not only the old age and obivious sick people died because of covid, but also young people you would not expect.
Fanatic I would call those who claime that the vaccine is from the devil, to depopulate the mankind.

 

[Aidan1]

In the case of this vaccination propaganda time i wouldn't say christians lack faith
More not thinking for themselves and falling prey. Not seeing the signs and reading the bible. No awareness just blindly swimming with the flow. No caution and no awareness.
When the enemy comes to give his mark some day, the ppl who got the vaccine will be the first to take the mark too.
This isnt about a vaccine for a deadly illness. Its total control and moving towards NWO. Digitalising everything and knowing everything about everyone.

About the vaccine, you are highly disinformed. Then you would say Christians lack faith if they take any Kind of medicine ore vaccine?
I agree with you that through the Pandemie the Digital net is encreasing and also the way for to controle people.
But the vaccine itself has nothing to do with it.
As one brother said before. Through useing all the Smartphones and the Internet we are far more in danger to spied out.

 

[Blik]

God is in charge of our world and God has given man tools to use to help with sickness. Those tools are often more harmful than good, like the over use of shots meant to combat germs when the problem is a virus. However, they are doing the best they can, it seems to me we should accept the good God is giving us.

As far as taking care of this virus, we know that it is dependent on our immune system. That system depends on carbs, and our carbs have been ruined as far as doing us good. As proof, look at the acquired diabetes caused by carbs turning to sugar because they are processed. Look to the findings of men who study how food affects the body. It makes more sense to handle our food than to go to vaccines that have not proven effective.